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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Default What do you guys think about this intake?

I have the chance to purchase this intake for $150 off a crossfire owner. What do you guys think? I love that it keeps the stock engine cover.

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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I would like to know where he got his grill though.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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I would like to know where he got his grill though.
That grill is available on e-bay.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Well, it does look purty BUT it sucks in air from the hot engine compartment eliminating the existing but cramped CAI's that come with the car.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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I would be curious to know what the temp is inside the compartment when the car is running in idle and on the move. It shouldnt be that hard to find out with a thermometer mounted inside. I know that my hood says quite warm for a while after driving, that leads me to believe that there isnt much venilation there. What troubles me about the CAI that are mounted in front of the radiators is that they could become fouled with debris and exposed to the elements. Using this set-up will perform better I believe, but will require closer attention to the filter being kept clean. I would like to know from users of this set-up if they clean the element on a regular basis.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by copycat
I would be curious to know what the temp is inside the compartment when the car is running in idle and on the move. It shouldnt be that hard to find out with a thermometer mounted inside. I know that my hood says quite warm for a while after driving, that leads me to believe that there isnt much venilation there. What troubles me about the CAI that are mounted in front of the radiators is that they could become fouled with debris and exposed to the elements. Using this set-up will perform better I believe, but will require closer attention to the filter being kept clean. I would like to know from users of this set-up if they clean the element on a regular basis.
We've tested a set up similar to this with a V8 airbox and lost 0.1 in the quarter vs a stock airbox. Similarly, we gained 0.3 with our CAI set up.

If you are going for the look then by all means do it, but if you are after performance, this is not the way to go.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by copycat
I would be curious to know what the temp is inside the compartment when the car is running in idle and on the move. It shouldnt be that hard to find out with a thermometer mounted inside. I know that my hood says quite warm for a while after driving, that leads me to believe that there isnt much venilation there. What troubles me about the CAI that are mounted in front of the radiators is that they could become fouled with debris and exposed to the elements. Using this set-up will perform better I believe, but will require closer attention to the filter being kept clean. I would like to know from users of this set-up if they clean the element on a regular basis.
There are hundreds of thousands of people running CAI's on thousands of models of cars and so many tests have been performed using them and that question has been asked and answered so many times.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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No doubt. I sat on the fence too long for the 2nd group buy, will wait for the 3rd if there will be any.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TVT_DESIGN
We've tested a set up similar to this with a V8 airbox and lost 0.1 in the quarter vs a stock airbox. Similarly, we gained 0.3 with our CAI set up.

If you are going for the look then by all means do it, but if you are after performance, this is not the way to go.
are you referring to the sl55 setup?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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are you referring to the sl55 setup?
Not for the N/A engine. E500 airbox.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Default Re: What do you guys think about this intake?

Are you even allowed to call that a "cold air" intake?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 03:47 AM
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Are you even allowed to call that a "cold air" intake?
Probably not. Just hooked up a simular system with Spectre filters. Duct taped a thermocoupling of an indoor outdoor themometer to the back side of one of the elements, didnt matter if you were rolling or standing still, it was pegged at 120 plus. You would need a Needswings set-up or simular model to grab cooler air. Ordered some longer sections of intake piping, going back to original concept using K&N filters in the boxes and remove the hose mounts adjacent to the radiator and install the larger diameter pipes through to the front of the radiator to grab a greater volume of air. The Spectre set-up sounded nice, but I dont believe I would be gaining anything.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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We've gotten consistent 70 degree IAT temps with our setup. Basically ambient air.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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I think that the Intakes are good enough for that price. What brand are those? +1 to copycat, I also do like the grille on that Crossfire.

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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Default Re: What do you guys think about this intake?

Originally Posted by TVT_DESIGN
We've gotten consistent 70 degree IAT temps with our setup. Basically ambient air.
This "consistent 70 degree IAT" is while you're driving right?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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The intake is visually impressive. Some cars have low under hood temps. The xfire in an inferno under the hood and for that reason I won't buy any intake that doesn't ingest air from some place other than under the hood. Why change if not to improve on the stock system? Now where are those glue on Brembo calipers.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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I should of jumped in on the Needswing group buy. He who hesitates is lost.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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The intake is visually impressive. Some cars have low under hood temps. The xfire in an inferno under the hood and for that reason I won't buy any intake that doesn't ingest air from some place other than under the hood. Why change if not to improve on the stock system? Now where are those glue on Brembo calipers.
I am pulling "all" my air from in front my Radiator just like the NW and TVT. Granted, not the quality of their's but, same idea. I just have two filters instead of one. That is why I asked about the temp. Unless your intake is temp wrapped, The air you take in from in front isn't going to cool much when it hits the intake.

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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Yeah, I did a search and found pictures of yours. Nice.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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I think that air is plenty cool enough, not far from ambient. That air is racing along the inside of the pipes, not allowing much time to pick up heat by convection or conduction of the short runs of pipe only to be injested by the engine. The set-up I tried is the easy way out. Iam sucking nothing put hot air into that engine, a larger volume then stock, but not dense O2 that you get from cooler air.
 

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