Did you say .o2 cents for a bj? oh I'm sorry It was .02 cents from bjames my bad....Hard to hear with all the crying in here....
Deadlines are not always met, especially in the car industry...., I know that customer service is important....but delivery of a product that nobody else is willing to make and done right is more important to me.... And I thank people like MrMiata for having the ***** to try a front lip and see if it works. It may not be for you, but people trying things on this site and having ideas, gets us to have things we want for our car... Like the man who got Corky to take on this project in the first place...
Don't like the wait, go buy a turbo fiat so you will look good gettin out of it for the next pep rally!

 

Too bad this is going the way it is. Some commenting don't even have a dog in this race. Damn if someone, or some, will collectively sour this effort by a good company to make a group of us N/A'ers happy. Come on people, be-atch about the weather, or bring back the political posts. Lets leave the experts solve the problems of the turbo system and QUIT armchair quarterbacking.

 

crossedupwy101
good to hear from you,I can tell from the tone of you comments that you did not cover your beer or move it. You should get your information a little more accurate, I didn't comment one way or another if I liked the Honda front lip spoiler. By all means hats off to anyone wanting to try something new, far be it from me to discourage them. And thanks to the guy that has put this all together, I have already done that. Turbo Fiat you say! Didn't know they made one ...interesting. If they didn't Corky could always turbo i for me. I think I'll stick with the Crossfire Turbo. Probably around the same time as the vintage plates.

 

Back on topic guys.
Yes things are going slower than expected. Yes I miss my baby. But all of that will be forgotten once she returns TURBO'd!

As mentioned this isn't a one off setup and what Corky and crew are doing to my car will have to be documented so more kits can be made.

Our project isn't the only thing going on in his shop. The turbo'd Crossfire will be worth the wait.
Just keep waiting and you will see!

If yer gonna complain (especially if you aren't signed up for this project) please start another thread.

Thanks.
dj

 

Personally, after being a member of the Miata forum for almost 10 years I've seen these deals come and go.

There was an on-going "dialog" between Fast Forward and Corky about superchargers. Last I read Corky had not finished his unit.
I guess they got their turbo working: My thanks to Corky, Stephanie and Brain - MX-5 Miata Forum

Then there was the outfit using a ROTEX turbo that came and went. And the Miata community is huge compared to the Crossfire. These guys are pushing 17psi and up. 250hp out of 1600 and 1800cc engines. Lots of cheap Miatas out there and lots of young guys who want horsepower.

What I'm saying is a lot of these "kits", in my personal experience, have turned into vaporware.

One of the biggest hurdles for California drivers is having the unit CARB approved.

I'm not bad-mouthing BEGI but I am thinking he and others tend to spread themselves pretty thin with multipul projects.

 

I agree with everything you said except this part. Ive engaged the necessary people, and CARB wont be as big an issue as people think. It should only cost about $150.... If the ref wants tweaks, maybe more but thats a good estimate right there considering the design Corky was originally talking about... ie. somewhat stock looking, and no change to emissions unless better than stock due to more restrictive exhaust flow. The reason he isnt making it CARB legal is the hoops he has to jump through and the cost of the kits at that point will climb dramatically.

 

Im a new member in the forum and i want a turbo kit ..... Please give me the info to do so!!! Been searching up and down for sc or turbo kits for Crossfires.. Willing to wait a year for this!!!

 

Hi folks I need a little help understanding a few things.
Firstly, Mrmiata, in one of your infamous one liners you offered me a front lip spoiler, thanks so much and don't worry about the color I'll paint it myself. The "pep rally" went over my head. Please clarify.
I see you used my catch phrase "it ain't right".... that tickles me.
The rest of you could help me with these.
Some of you indicated you knew'" it would take a lot longer to build a turbo" Does that mean you knew someone was being less than truthful from the get go?
Some have said "it takes time to build quality" does that mean you thought you were buying junk in the 8 to 10 week window?
Some of you said "in the end you will be happy with the product" does that mean we wouldn't have been happy with the product that was was supposed to be done in the 8 to 10 week window?
You have said you are willing to wait " to make sure it is done right". Did you not think it would be done right in the 8 to 10 week time frame when you signed on? Huhm??
Do you really believe the longer the build, the better the quality ?Are you in denial or is it more a question of "more gruel Please" and not offending the builder?

 

Well feel free to contact another performance oriented company and line up another more promising aspect for a" mass" production run on a turbo system for our cars.
Oh.. and do you think you could give us a reasonable turn around time for this.. that you can stick too?
Now wipe the gruel drool from your lips and carry on.

We are a patient group but try not to push the limit on this promising new developer..

 

I will simply say this much -- it is a bit depressing to me that I can't think of a single group buy in the history of the internet that has ever adhered to the original set schedule. Just on our forum alone... we've had side skirts (fail), fender strakes (fail), carbon hoods (success but forever long), Speedriven headers (fail), Wavetrac's year-long saga... list goes on.

This could mean one of two things:

• Time-tables from the builder are never to be taken seriously; in fact, they should be ignored from the get-go
• Originator of the GB has the process bass-ackwards

Instead of drumming up guaranteed interest with a product that may never come to fruit, perhaps the masses should be teased with the guaranteed fruit first, and let the people rest assured that they not only know what they're buying, but also when they can get their hands on it.


This turbo build is a *bit* of an exception, since the $$$ is on a larger scale. But if we argue on a $$ logic alone, what is the defense for auto manufacturers? Ignoring Ferrari, most automakers don't get deposits first, THEN build a car. The car is built, distributed, and sold on a test-drive. If they build a dud, they lose their ****.



Take that as you will.

 

Mrmiata
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. You have answered one quite clearly. I can tell you are not very pleased with me at the moment and I shouldn't be expecting that front lip spoiler any time soon.

 

BJ i think what miata is trying to say is....if you made a deposit, then ask for it and quit your bitching....if you did not make a deposit then go complain somewhere else and quit your bitching... Its been 8 years since ppl trying to get a turbo sc on this car..Ive gotten prices from many shops cheapest 6k so if you want to go that route GO ....just stop complaining!!!

 

Well My friend as You are aware I was Kind of a Late addition to this project. Even so I will do My darndest to hold Your hand and make You feel all warm and secure.

First do You really expect Greg to ship something to You? As Much as You relish poking Him with a stick You must certainly be crazy to think such Silly thoughts. Might need to reasses Your meds!

As far as truthfulness in the qoutes of any R&D project. YES! I always think that It will take twice as long as the vendor thinks It will! I don'think of It as Lying as much as Hopefull Optimism. In this particular project with all the intriccasies involved with the Benz codes and systems I am not surprised in the least that BEGI was surprised by the difficulties.

Of course not! I never expected the Quality of the Product to be anything but top notch. Hence the reason I never thought It would be done in that timeframe.

That is most certainly the case! And obvious to most reasonable people I would assume. a Product hastily thrown together just to meet a deadline would likely be a product that I would not feel was a quality Item. Perhaps even Junky!

YES! the rest of the answer would be redundant like Your question.

Certainly saying that Because It takes longer It Must be better, is like saying because It costs more It is of Higher quality than a cheaper Item. However I think We all know that buying a Lamborghini for $500 is a foolish gesture.

Your final Question is both Silly and Ostentatious at the same time. No one is in denial I just read the whole Da.n thread again!
I did however get a sense of Patience, Anticipation and Expectation. You are the only one with Your bunghole all puckered up.


You are one of those Guys that just likes to stir the pot I'd wager that You spend a great deal of time just trolling the web looking for some fellas arm to Yank.

Thanks for all Your entertaining Posts.

Your Buddy, Herman

 

I have yet to receive your $5, so no I wouldn't look for a front lip spoiler anytime soon. Maybe you can just check Ebay and catch that sale yourself.
Not very pleased? Just enjoying a cat mouse game with you.. your rants actually invoke no emotional reactions from me.
Just as a final note for you though, which member did a BEGi rep. pull over along the side of the road and say "Let me build you a turbo kit for that car! - and here's how we are going to arrange payments etc."

A product is typically developed based on perceived desires and anticipated sales. Bottom line here, there are no "Pet Rock" explosion of sales anticipated for this car, so your going to be hard pressed to find someone to invest 10-50 grand in development of anything. This cars saving grace for mods lies in the joint platform of having Mercedes sales potential.
Time to go refill the coffee cup..

 

OK so no one has responded to my info request... CAN SOMEONE please tell me how to contact the people at BEGi to see if i can get in on this deal????

 

I feel that no one has responded because the contact info is in the very first post of the first page of this thread. So just go to the first page and look at the first post and all the contact info is there for you.

 

Or if you don't know how GOOGLE works should you even think of installing a turbo kit?

 

http://www.bellengineering.net/artic...b2ff0dd428c56d

LOLOLLLLL Now Greg no need to get all snarky with the New kids! Jonctovar Here is a link to the project the contact person is Stephanie. and Yes all tihis information was right on the front page of this thread.

 

I hit SENIOR MEMBER STATUS! I'm entitled to one or two...right? Guess this means I need to brush up on my "use search feature" responses..

 

Sorry I guess I was to worked up reading about this that I completly missed it...btw I'm doing a HOW TO on installing led's inside the headlight housing as we speak...waiting for silicone to dry ...where shall I post this??