Check out my Cool Air Intakes. You know what. I have put Air intakes in every car or truck I have ever owned. By far the Crossfire's responce to being able to breath a bit better, is the most explosive. I mean,...man right off the bat you can feel and hear the difference. So far I've smoked RX-8's, Porsche Boxsters and ONE Corvette Z06. Which was sweet I might add. I posted some pics on the general Gallery photos page. Take a look, and tell me what you think. Thanks Yall

 

So you've stuck 2 K&N's onto the original airbox setup, and removed the panel filters ??

Are the kits heat shielded at all ?

 

What happens when the eng bay heats up??? My understanding that the warmer the air going into the eng the less HP and performance.

I tried a simlar set up years ago on my 328 BMW. Didn't work so good.

Set up cold air induction on my 330CI. Big improvement. The differance was in the way the cold air induction kept the filter compartment cooler than the lest of the eng bay and the piping to get as much air from the outside of the car as possible. There was a small air restriction because of the way BM keeps everything pretty tight in the eng bay and front assembly, but manage to get more air to it than stock and the K&N cone was less restrictive.

 

definately ! - when the induction kit sucks in the warmer ambient air then this will certainly effect the performance.

 

You did not beat a Z06. If you "think" you beat him, he wasn't trying. Adding an intake to a 215 hp 6.5 second 0-60 Crossfire isn't going to make it able to beat a 400+ hp 4.1 second 0-60 Corvette. Also, I honestly don't think your setup has done anything to improve performance. Your intake is now less of a cold air intake then the stock one... It's pulling in air from the engine compartment instead of from the front of the car, which is obviously going to be warmer. I could see it maybe sounding better, but as for any noticeable performance gains, I just don't believe it.

 

My question is the same as r.robertson.... It sure seems to me that you are breathing a lot of hot air from the engine bay. :roll:

Secondly.... I'm with Mightyjr (BTW, good to see you're still alive, Mighty!!!)... There's no way, short of an SRT6 and that will probably be a close one, that you beat a Z06. Next I'm going hear you smoked a Viper.... If the driver of the other car doesn't know you're racing.... It's not a race. :lol:

 

LOL man... man even pushing 250hp after my exhaust I know I wont be touching my buddies C5 convertible... I KNOW 100% FOR SURE HE WILL WALK ME EVERYTIME!!! unless for some reason ... a) his tires blow up... or b) I throw a rock at him first! ... other then that its not possible our Xfire will touch a vette!

I dont even know if the SRT-6 will be able to beat the stock vette... I mean they have 5.7l engine in that thing... its just over kill! ...

Rx-8's... YES 100% I believe that... you could smoke a rx8 stock if he didnt know how to operate his gears correct...

Boxsters... are a 6.0 second car... so that means ECU modded... then you can take it .. but it wont be a blow out... hell there is a chance you might even lose... but it will be a VERY close match! Would be fun to see...

and i'm with everyone else on the intake ... it looks like it would be HELLA hot where you have those aiming at...

now what I was thinking...


Put the intake with heat shield the way Nikon's setup is... but also take off this plastic grill down here... it has a lot of closed holes... if we open it up... should add some air through the engine bay + it will look better in metal... not so cheap as the plastic is...

 

stick any kind of air scoop or snorkel down there and you will need to find a way for the water to drain out of it. Surely, it will suck in rainwater...

Since the throttle body is way in the back, near the firewall, why not just do a hood snorkel (opening to the front or rear) and get fresh air that way...sounds like a carbon fiber hood project...

 

Hence why my filter is aiming downwards, water doesn't flow that well uphill, and any little that does get up there will be taken care of by the filter anyway

 

The style of the pictures in your album look very much like the one that lead to this discussion:

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...pic.php?t=2533

As I said in that thread, in my opinion you're trading your stock intake for sucking in hot air of the engine compartment.

 

Man.. I'd pay hard core cash for one of them if someone made one look EXACTLY like our hood but in Carbon fiber... it would look so hot on the SSB!!!

 

No offense Saskins but there is NO WAY you beat a Z06. My brother has one and I'll be the first to assure you that that car is a 400 HP animal. It would eat our cars for lunch every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Nice thought but quite simply it is a $50K street legal race car. No comparison.

 

how do i get a performance chip

 

Sorry for not getting to your questions everyone. All of your concerns are pretty much the same. It sounds like Engine heat is a big one. Also some concerns about Air restriction. By the way the picture that Mr. Burns has, is old and the only reason I posted it, was I wanted to get a feel for if any one would take any interest. It wasn't actual product. However did work nicely.
As far as everyone's theories on how the heat distribution works. I can only go with the wind tunnel test. Air from the out side being pulled, or pushed however you want to say it. Get's pushed around the engine body, down the heat shield (front & back) and through the opening's were your transmission meets your engine block. Right next to your headers. They make it that way so air will blow past your headers in the attempt to air cool them as much as possible.
Opening up the plastic lower grille covers, isn't going to give it that much more air. If heat is everyone's biggest concern, I also made heat deflectors out of carbon fiber for the cone filters.

Mr. 2004Xfire. I infact did beat a Z06. Yes I understand it should have blew me off the road. It's not my fault the guy couldn't drive his 400+HP machine. My brother too also has a 01 Z06.

All in all, you will all talk trash until I post my print out of my dyno scores. (Stock to Mod) And prove to all of you there is an improvement. Then you will do a 180 and all be asking to for one. That day is coming very soon. Its already been bench tested on an EPA machine. I'm not going to even tell you the HP gains and smog legal.

For Performance chips call Renntech, or Upsolute.

 

i am still waiting for the pictures looking down on the engine.

thanks!

 

Sorry Andrew,
I've been meaning to do that. The reason why I haven't gotten around to it, i because I have been working on a Carbon Fiber version, with an engine cover. So The intakes have been flying in and out of the car. It's funny it seems as if as soon as I get the mock up "C.F." version in there, I'll have to go somewhere. They come out much faster then they do going in I can tell you that much. This weekend I'll make a note to get better pics of the Alum./ceramic set. I would do it sooner, however I have a very busy week at my real job on the show According To Jim. Were shooting a car chase scene. Lets see if I can get my X-Fire in there.
Thanks Again.

 

Saskin your post on the 14th has got me thinking. As the air leading into the eng is at the back of the car above the headers, where most of the heat lies, it would make very little differance if cold outside air continues to be cold up to this point and then is instantly heated because of the hot eng bay. Do I have that right???

 

Well Yes and No. What you want is cooler and easier air flow. The headers are not close enough to the manifold to heat them up significantly. So your right in a sense, the can get warmer. However because of the bigger piping and the Cone Air filter. The flow rate is much quicker and whole lot more. I actually thought of the same thing as a concern. So to help, what I did was use apply a few heavy coats of insulation paint. It is formulated specifically for automotive parts that will be in a higher level of heat area. So with my system tube heat isn't effecting my tubes. I physically so that, that minor improvement brought down my over all engine temperature about 25%. It's really neat stuff how it works.
So now looking at the Pro's of the system: A lot less restrictive, there is a whole lot more do to the 3" piping, and it is staying cooler because of the insulation factor. Over all, it doesn't get much better... Or does it? No I have some plans for the future, but I'm in the very beginning stages of testing. So you won't see anything for a while. I hope this answers your questions.

 

Saskins where did you get the paint.

 

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