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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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9-11,the day we learned a new meaning of war , is there a way to end it ?

There is no one on the enemies side to sign a Treaty.

We're making ENEMIES faster than we can kill them.

1,000+ American Service people killed in Iraq.

Do you feel safer now ?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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Yes, feel safer now, thanks to Bush,
but never stop remembering 9/11!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 06:27 AM
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:57 AM
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This is a religious war and not a political war. These ISLAMIC extreminists think that killing infidels can bring them to heaven. Yes, there's no end to this war but we can delay their operations by going after those that supported them or those that are about to support them.

There is hope for peace if the Arab - Muslim countries will denounce their cause and declare war against these crazy camel throtting ISLAMIC extremnists. Other than that if they don't, they are our silent enemies which we shouldn't trust at all! Don't ever trust a Muslim who don't think these ISLAMIC extremnists are EVIL!

Thanks God for our right to bear arms because it prevents these terrorists from using our mountains as their stronghold. I'll be glad to hunt them...instead of the harmless deers...whenever that time will come. But I don't think so, as there has been no incident yet where a criminal started shooting people in the gun show or firing range...not yet unless the Democrats will remove it from our houses. Once the Democrats do that...expect a Martial Law and a dictator will arise.

Educate yourself and love guns Only uneducated people think that gun is evil.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 02:11 AM
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Besides, we wouldn't be needing oil a few years from now. Fossil fuel is old school...the new fuel of the future is DEUTERIUM whose end product is steam. These fuel can be found in large deposits somewhere in the deep seas of the Marianas and Philippine Islands. Deuterium replenishes itself every 24 hours so it is environmental friendly other than the end product being steam. Right now it is only the space shuttle and the nukes that uses deuterium as fuel.

With deuterium, it will shut the mouths of the Arabs who thinks we are at their mercy because of oil.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Huh? I could find nothing about this being used as a fuel.... Quite a bit of info concerning cancer treatment is available. Here is what is in Wikipedia:

Deuterium
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Deuterium (symbol 2H) is a stable isotope of hydrogen with a natural abundance of one part in 7000 of hydrogen. The nucleus of deuterium (called a deuteron) has one proton and one neutron, whereas a normal hydrogen nucleus just has one proton. Deuterium is also called heavy hydrogen. While it is not an element in its own right, it is often given the symbol D. It occurs naturally as deuterium gas, D2 or 2H2.

Deuterium was first detected in 1931 by Harold Clayton Urey, a chemist at Columbia University. Urey earned the 1934 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for this work.

Deuterium is useful in nuclear fusion reactions, as is tritium, because of the larger rate of reaction (or cross section) and high energy yield of the D-T reaction.

Deuterium can replace the normal hydrogen in water molecules to form heavy water (D2O), which was a source of some concern during World War II, as Germany was known to be conducting experiments using heavy water as a nuclear reactor moderator, which might allow them to produce plutonium for an atomic bomb. This led to an important Allied special forces operation to destroy a deuterium production facility in Norway, known as the Norwegian heavy water sabotage.

Deuterium is frequently used in chemistry and biochemistry as a tracer molecule to study reaction pathways because chemically it behaves identically to ordinary hydrogen, but it can be distinguished from ordinary hydrogen by its mass. Also, because of its greater mass, chemical reactions involving deuterium tend to occur at a slower rate than the corresponding reactions involving ordinary hydrogen.

It has been suggested that deuterium water (heavy water) should be considered toxic because if consumed in isolation it would displace light water and disturb the rate of biochemical reactions in the body. See heavy water for a discussion of this.

The existence of deuterium in stars is one of the arguments in favour of the big bang theory over the steady state theory. Stellar fusion destroys deuterium and there are no known natural processes, other than the big bang itself, which produce deuterium.

Canada is the world's leading producer of deuterium as it is needed for the operation of the CANDU reactor.


Data
density: 0.180 kg.m-3 at STP.
atomic weight: 2.01363.

Data at approximately 18K for D2 (triple point):

density:
ice: 195 kg.m-3
gas: 0.452 kg.m-3
viscosity: 1.3x10-6 kg.m-1.s-1
Cp:
ice: 2950 J.kg-1.K-1
gas: 5200 J.kg-1.K-1
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium"
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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Unless you are talking about Nuclear Fusion, which at this time is not possible. The magnetic containment and extremely high temperatures involved are not available to make this a practicle fuel source. And is that what you want in your car?

Yikes!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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Maybe in 50-75 years,we'll be using fossil fuels at least 50.years or more.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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My personal opinion is that when we are really ready to do so, we can start a crash program similar to the Manhattan Project, or the Apollo Program, and make this work in a 15 - 20 year time frame. But as long as big oil keeps everything off track with their big money, it will not happen. Look at it this way, with all the advances we have made in the last 40 years, how much of an improvement have we really made in the performance, fuel efficiency, or pollution control of our automobile engines? Hardly where it should be.....



Just my opinion.....
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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Actually, somebody already invented a car using water as fuel since 1968 in the Philippines. The inventor mixes water and salt to make it a heavy water and split hydrogen using a 12 volt battery. But the invention was ignored because it can cause global war and world economy will be in shambles if water is used as fuel. Just lately, Taiwan took the invention from this guy and will put it in their cars years from now.

The technology has been there a long time ago but its a global conspiracy since every country is making money from oil.

As for deuterium, it is the British and the Japanese who started drilling it for 20 years now. I believed Saudi Arabia is backing it.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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Cyril:

You are kidding here, right? In my 10th grade chemistry class way back in 1969, we split water into Hydrogen and Oxygen with a small electric current - It is what powered the Apollo systems - a fuel cell. The salt just helps with the conductivity

But I sure don't want to be driving around with a tank of Hydrogen in the back of my car - think Hindenburg.....

Oh the humanity!!!!! and all that....

Especially with all these crazy "racers" going 139 mph on the roads!!!!



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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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I worked on a system for a Hydrogen Bubble Chamber that was at Harvard University - but is now part of the landscape.
Nope, nothing to do with hydrogen for me!
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Like gasoline...both fuels ( hyrogen and gasoline ) are combustible and dangerous. If the manufacturers can contain these fuels in a safe environment then why not consider hydrogen coming out of water. It's cheap and very much available everywhere

Here's a site regarding water fueled car:

http://www.wasserauto.de/html/daniel_dingel.html
http://www.wasserauto.de/html/inquirer_article.html

For deuterium, its a natural fuel and much cheaper than oil.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Check out the evolution of cars using hydrogen in this site:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...mw_hydrogen_dc
 
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