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Old May 15, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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So I went racing last friday, for the first street legal event at our drag strip. Tons of people, a lot of fun, but thought I would post my times for everybody. So I think I am the slowest "fast" crossfire. I enjoy racing and normally take my cobra because I dont like to beat up on the crossfire. Everyone that was in the stands that came to ask questions, asked me if I was really racing, or just trying to keep it close for the other cars, and that it seemed like I was sand bagging and wondered what my car could really do. If they only knew, I was running her wide open. Well, enough story telling, here are my times...


.620 Reaction on a .5 Tree
2.561 60 Foot
10.643 660 Foot
16.422 1320 Foot (1/4 mile)
85.55 Trap Speed
 
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Old May 15, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Your 60 foot times seem a bit high. Are you launching with traction control off? Are you heating up street tires or using slicks?

Some of the guys like Needswings should respond to this... they have WAY more experience at 1/4 mile than I do.

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Old May 15, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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I had the traction controller off, and had a bit of torque "build up" as in foot on brake, foot starting to rev on the car when I launched. New street tires, not heated, but only squeeked them, no real spin. This is with my sprint booster, start of an exhaust system, and intake tubes taken off, k&n filters. Not sure what else to do other than the typical buy an SRT. She is faster then when I first bought her, especially with the sprint booster and exhaust.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Hey BC, check out TVT Designs, they have the most performance parts for normally aspirated Crossfires. A NeedsWings intake wouldn't hurt. Same goes for an ECU tune, especially if they have 93 octane gasoline where you live. There's more available from TVT, but I'm not well versed in it, as I have an SRT and wasn't paying close attention to the n/a stuff.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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How tall are the tires you are running? If they are any taller than the factory tires, that will especially kill your short times, your speed seems off too. Maybe the other NA guys can help out with what they are running, but I'd guess that with your density altitude, you could be 1 second slower than a typical NA. Like you say, altitude sucks
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Well, Bandimere Speedway's correction factor at 5830ft above sea level is .9276... I see Montrose is about 5780ft...so you're close enough to that.

http://sitesbytim.com/racingstuff/Al...ctionChart.htm

That puts you at 15.233sec @ 92.16mph.
 
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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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See, i thought i should have been closer to those marks, in the 15's. But maybe I have the slow crossfire of the group? lol Just didnt know what other people were running at altitude in their cars. I know it kills the times in my cobra. In arizona I run 11's and 12's, and up here I run 13's and 14's.
 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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don't worry your running about what a crossfire should, I live close to you I live in Utah where our elevation is 4300ft, elevation KILLS your times, My crossfire ran a 15.9@87mph here and I have a 6 speed so take a half a second off because of your automatic and you come up with 16.4 so your really close to what you should be running
 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Wow and I thought the 1800ft altitude at the track up here was bad lol.
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 04chryslr
don't worry your running about what a crossfire should, I live close to you I live in Utah where our elevation is 4300ft, elevation KILLS your times, My crossfire ran a 15.9@87mph here and I have a 6 speed so take a half a second off because of your automatic and you come up with 16.4 so your really close to what you should be running
I appreciate it, question for you though. Are you running stock? or do you have any mods? I would have figured with the exhaust, k&n's, and the sprint booster I would be doing a bit better.
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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I have K&N drop in filters and I have deleted my muffler thats it
 
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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Well, I have a sport muffler versus no muffler, and the sprint booster so we are close for mods. I am going to try to take her to the track in the next few weeks, so maybe I can run some better numbers, we'll see.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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you can always run better numbers, my first time at the track I ran 16.1, next time I had a best of 15.99, now i'm down to 15.7
 
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 04chryslr
you can always run better numbers, my first time at the track I ran 16.1, next time I had a best of 15.99, now i'm down to 15.7
Wow, thats great. I will keep you guys posted how I do, next time I take her out. Maybe I'll cheat and see if racing gas makes a difference.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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haha I ran my car with my gtech at sea level. I had the weight dead on and had a great run on a flat straight road.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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damn thats fast downward! what mods do you have done if any
 
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
haha I ran my car with my gtech at sea level. I had the weight dead on and had a great run on a flat straight road.
Just so you know, that is not at all fair. lol I went racing last night with my replica AC Cobra, and on streets I was in the 13's when I could get a little bit of traction, and still have 60 foot times in the 2 sec plus category. I can say however I was running .51 reaction times I'm planning on running the crossfire next track night
 
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 04chryslr
damn thats fast downward! what mods do you have done if any
no mods, I think I saved alot of time shifting, and I had almost no wheelspin to kick on the traction control (it was switched off). I only got up to 60 in the run before that one, but I ran (supposedly) 0-60 in 6.3. I've been itching to do another run, but now that its beach season that road will actually have other people on it. maybe Ill just see what my 0-60 is
 
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