agreed boiler... very rarely are they done right, plus its a 4 door so im not a fan.

 

My son has an SRT4 with stock turbo, stock tune and bolt ons. Every time we go to the track, basically whoever leaves the line faster, wins. He turns 12.5's at 110 mph.

 

just like our rides, cheap HP......

 

Always had a love/hate relationship with my srt-4. In the end i had to let her go. Easy to make fast, but fit and finish, workmanship, and overall quality sucked *****. They are probably deep in the 11's stock turbo now.

 

So, I may have a bit of a unique perspective on this one. I currently own a 2003 SRT4 and a 2005 SRT6. I just traded in a 2005 NA Crossfire about 4 days ago.

I have raced them all against each other. As for SRT4, mostly stock with just the predator tune, vs. NA Crossfire with Eurocharged tune; the 0-60 is the most similar. The SRT4 starts to really walk away at 60 to 90. Never really raced them above that.

Now, the SRT6 is just nasty stock. It walks away from the SRT4 after sixty. But rolling from 20 they are pretty similar. Out of the hole, the SRT6, I suspect will destroy the SRT4. I will race them soon with one of my bodied that can drive.

That said, I love(ed) all of them. The SRT cars clearly had passionate engineers. I would disagree that the interior sucks on the SRT4. I think it was an inexpensive car that heavily engineered for speed/performance and the passion involved in its engineering is quite amazing but takes a little time spent with it to truly appreciate.

The SRT6 is the best car I have ever owned. It's not overly nice interior wise, but overall the package is amazing. I hate to say it, but I wish I would have traded my NA Crossfire long ago :-)

 

Thanks, that is probably the most honest reply from someone with all three cars...

How are those manual windows in the rear? I mean come on. Comparatively with other cars of the same style/price, it is not horrible, but they made some poor decisions IMO.

 

So, I still disagree. The decision not to have power back windows came from the base Neon platform. I have owned a 1997 Neon Sport and two SRT4s. All of them had power front windows and manual back windows. This would have been very expensive to add to just the SRT4. I agree with their decision leave the SRT4 like the base Neon.

Furthermore, I have met hundreds of Neon owners over the years at Mopar shows and not once have I heard a complaint about the manual back windows actually being inconvenient. It's weird, but it's not something I really use even in my Jeep which does have power back windows. It was an edgy design decision, but it wasn't all that bad.

The only true compromise, I see in the SRT4 is the conscious decision to remove the cruise control to provide room for the Turbo motor. People have retrofitted the standard Neon cruise control, so it could have been possible from the factory.

That said, this car was engineered to be fast. The new Focus ST is a beautiful car, but it's not fast enough. The RSX's were beautiful, but not fast enough. The TSX's are beautiful but not fast enough. The Civic Si's were cool, but not fast enough. The Cobalt SS was a very nice car, but not fast enough. Do you see a pattern here.

The SRT4 was a piece of craft-work that I wish other car companies would put in their low end cars. It was a chance for somebody who didn't have a lot of money to buy a car that was touched and mulled over by SRT engineers. People that can afford Vipers, Corvettes, Porche and Ferraris have always been able to buy a car that had true passion in it's creation, but the SRT4 was a bit of a first for a sub-compact (perhaps only, though I think the STI is similar in it's compromised design which I respect).


OK, end passionate plea to look deeper at the SRT4 :-)

As for mods, I assume you mean the SRT6. I just bought it 4 days ago, but you know I had to.....

I have the Eurocharged Stage 1 on the way: All : Stage 1 Power Package: Crossfire SRT6

I have the Needswings CAI on the way too: NeedsWings SRT6 Crossfire Cold Air Intake System

As for exhaust, I am just not sure yet: I would love something that is tame but breathes a little better

 

ok guys I do got to say we have to give some credit to our N/As with a few Needswings mods on mine I was able to keep up on the hwy with a Corvette (newer model), and on the street was actually able to get a good distance from another one, of course empty street ..but again I am not sure how good they were able to get on it and driver is always a factor.i would say the one I was with on the hwy we were goin at min. 120...
and I am taking it to the strip ...specially after the EuroTune...

 

Proper tune (Eurocharged), good CAI ( Needswings), Hot Plugs, Higher flow injuectors, Back Cat Delets, and the right tires,,,, and the NA can appoach 290-300 HP and a good hookup. Not an SRT6 but still mean. And it will execute a respectable performance on the street or at the track.

As I indicated here some three years ago, stock SRT4's aren't beyond a reach if you're a decent driver. But if the SRT4 owner has done more than just apply some stickers and a fart can, they can be mean little doggies.

 

well I do have all of those.so im hoping next week I will go to a local performance shop and do a few dyno runs... any one know if I need an internet connection to swich my tunes from stock to performance.

 

There you go, Franc wins ! LOL

 

If you got in the last round of sales... you should be good to go.. both "flash" data's are there to switch back and forth with. "no need for internet connection" was the high light of my purchase..

 

Awesome. Yes I got the V2

 

Two things:
1. Yes, with Eurocharged, Needswings CAI, and 74mm TB (I have one for sale), you will be damn comparable to an SRT4. In fact, I can tell you right now, if you get the jump out of the hole, they will not be able to catch back up to you in a "normal" street race (e.g. up to 60 or 70mph).

Long story, but I have done, probably too much street racing. My brother in law has a honda civic that is about dead even with a stock srt4 (I know because we raced a ton of times :-). Once, I raced him in my completely stock NA Crossfire, I got off the line quicker than him and he couldn't get up to me by 60mph. With the three parts above, you will be pretty dangerous to a stock SRT4.

You kind of make me want my NA Crossfire back :-) But, I just couldn't justify six cars, my GF probably wouldn't be if I keep buying cars without getting rid of something :-(

2. Only reason you would need internet is to do custom tuning with Eurocharged. They can, for I believe $100 an hour help develop a custom tune for you. Though, I think they pretty much have canned tunes for most of the mods on the NA Crossfire because there aren't too many.

 

74mm tb for sale u say?? Ill take it. Lol

 

BTW, there are still a couple of stock SRT4s left. I have one other than the predator tune. But, it gets harder to resist modifying it each year. Though, now that I have the SRT6, I probably just can't justify spending money on the SRT4 :-) I want an 11 second SRT6 really, really, really bad. Never had a car that fast, just want it once in life :-)

 

I think that Rob at Needswings got their 6 pretty close to what your looking for

 

We have quite a few SRT-4s in our local Colorado SRT club. These guys can do some amazing things with those 4-bangers and do quite well in our highland drag strip (Bandimere). Plus the SRT-4 guys don't bash the Crossfire compared to the big brother SRT-8s...

 

sounds like someone heard you and responded with "challenge accepted"

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That is hilarious. Sad part is it's 40K, it's just too much. For 30K, I would do it. My old SRT4 was 19.3K. It was a modern day muscle car because every kid could afford one and old guys like me loved em.

That said, Shelby did tune the GLH Onmni, so I don't think it is sacrilege like many of the comments.