BCT, the unfortunate truth is that E85 requires 15-20% more fuel per injection event than gasoline. Therefore, if you mix gasoline with E85, the end result is that your engine will run with less power, simply because the fuel energy in an equivalent volume of E85 is lower than the fuel energy in gasoline.

However, if your intent is simply to raise fuel octane, then, yes, it will increase the equivalent fuel octane. But with less available fuel energy per injection event, I think the end result would be worse than if the engine pulled timing on a tank of 100% gasoline.

 

LMAO! Show me where I said bolt ons will increase fuel octane.
You need all the education you can get honey.
Where did I post a joke in this thread?
I haven't "said" anything in this forum, I have typed a lot however.

Keep pouring your hardware supply chemicals in your car, heck with the stuff that is actually made for cars and is cheaper and actually works. Continue on with your paranoid and rice filled life, have a nice day!

Edit: I sure hope that I do not meet up with your toluene beast on the road one day, it would suck the paint right off my car as you drive past me going mach 1.

 

I was just thinking about the times I was in illinois and iowa, driving the old 302 around, and wow, I loved being out there because of how "hot" the motor and truck ran. Was thinking that it might of had the same effect, because they were using an ethanol blend.

 

Here is a good article regarding toluene "home brew" octane boosters, I am sure mr ignorant will ignore it.

http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0...ted/index.html

Toluene-laden fuels burn slower and make less power on high-revving engines. So much in fact that much of the air/fuel mixture is still burning as the charge exits through the exhaust valve. This is a sure way to destroy your emissions-control equipment and not pass smog. For these reasons, true race fuels don't just use toluene or other active ingredients to boost the octane. Instead they use better-refined hydrocarbon chains that raise octane while retaining optimal combustion characteristics.
So there it is, octane boosters tested and explained in a nutshell.

I BET THAT MAKES YO DAWG POWA FO'SHIZZA !!!!!

Well worth destroying your engine and O2 sensors!

Again, why use actual octane boosters (that are cheaper and safe) such as Klotz that raise octane significantly (not like you need it in your NA crossfire anyway) when you can use paint thinner and raise it by .2 octane and destroy your car?

Makes sense to me lmao!

 

its hard to single out how they are saying that. i can't tell if they are saying race teams don't use heavily blended toluene or if they don't use it at all???

either way, i'm sure the statement is for high mixtures, and what is defined as high revving? my car may get to 6200, much lower than 99% of race engines.

 

Lol it is like talking to a rock.

Just ignore the octane boosters out there that are proven to work, are made for automotive use, are safe for O2 sensors, use the paint thinner and enjoy.

 

my wife says the same thing sometimes. i am pretty hard headed.

 

Lol, I hear that a lot too.

 

Instead of quoting a magazine, how about contacting Shell.

http://www.shellchemicals.com/toluen...98,277,00.html

You sir, are either a professional salesman, a dumbass, or some combination of both.

Straight from Shell:

"Most commercial grade toluene is returned to the gasoline pool as a blend component resulting in higher-octane grades."

And you called me uneducated?

Now it's final. I've held back for 10 posts too long. You're an idiot, and Mr. Shell agrees with me. Go ahead, insult me some more, and I shall taunt you a second time!

 

A gasoline and diesel fuel additive comprising a mixture of alcohol, toluene, and hydrogen peroxide. The preferred ratio is 16/8/1 of these substances. Also for the purpose of quality control when the additive is to be used with diesel fuel, a few drops of diesel fuel and several drops of glycerin are added to the additive mixture to determine if the proper mixture and blending has been achieved. The process of making this additive includes vigorous agitation of the substances as they are blended together in the order of a predetermined amount of toluene being added to a predetermined quantity of alcohol, and then a chosen amount of hydrogen peroxide being added thereafter. Followed by the vigorous blending of these substances, and then immediate putting of the mixture into suitable containers, and tightly sealing the containers to prevent deterioration of the additive mixture.

SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

An object of the present invention is to provide a fuel additive for use with both gasoline and diesel fuels which will increase the respective octane and cetane rating thereof without adding any undesirable materials to the fuel which can be harmful to attachments used with the engine, such as catalytic converters in the exhaust system.
Another object of this invention is to provide a fuel additive which will increase the overall effectiveness of said fuel by effecting more complete combustion thereof, provide more power in the engine during utilization of the fuel, and assure a cleaner exhaust emission.
Another further object of this invention is to provide an additive which will when mixed with the proper quantity of fuel absorb and render harmless any moisture or water present in the fuel which otherwise could be detrimental to engine operation.
A still further object of this invention is to provide an additive quite mixable with the fuel for which it is to be used, and which will stay in proper mixture suspension when bottled, and until put to use with a fuel.
A still further object of this invention is to provide a method of preparing a fuel additive which will effect the aforestated objects in the best manner possible.
The fuel additive of subject invention is basically a combination of three substances properly blended together. The substances are toluene, alcohol, and hydrogen peroxide.
By properly mixing these substances together in the manner set forth, an additive is achieved which will substantially increase performance and fuel economy of the average internal combustion engine as presently used on automotive-type vehicles. Also, this additive will substantially increase performance of any type of engine using either #2 diesel fuel or regular or straight-run gasoline.
It is also believed that this additive may be useful with any type device using fuels for heating and combustion such as space heaters, oil burner type furnaces.
Test results have indicated increased highway mileage when the additive of the present invention is used with vehicular engines in normal everyday usage. Tests have indicated an increase in highway mileage of from 10 to 35% when the additive is properly used.
The process disclosed for making the additive is an important part of the invention. It is necessary for producing an additive which will retain the desired properties, and will achieve the desired performance improvement when added to the proper quantity of gasoline or diesel fuel.
These together with other objects and advantages which will become subsequently apparent reside in the details of construction and operation as more fully hereinafter described and claimed, reference being had to the accompanying drawings forming a part hereof, wherein like numerals refer to like parts throughout.

 

Lol, okay big guy the paint thinner you are using is top grade octane booster that doubles your whp on your beast of a car. I bet you run 3 second 1/4 mile times in that monster when you pour your 2 gallons of paint thinner in your gas tank.

Be careful you do not rip a hole in the fabric of time/space with all the power you are making and kill us all!

You have it stuck in your head that it is making you power so have fun, hopefully your car will survive what you are doing to it.

 

No I don't. I've never mentioned "making power" as a goal. From the beginning you put words in my mouth. Then you insulted me personally in as many ways as is known how. And now, since I pointed out the error of your ways, you've retreated to your little man-hole. Of course, the worst part is that all the stuff you said was completely wrong.

Come again, dorkfish! Oh, and now you're officially on my ignore list! Congratulations!

 

can i use this mixture for the srt6

 

forget that i asked, i should have read all of the posted replies first. 104 octane booster has to be better and cheaper

 

how many points does 104 increase the octain of say 91 fuel?

 

LMAO, dorkfish? How old are you? I would assume you are a teenager considering the "mods" you are doing on your car aka paint thinner. I haven't said anything in this thread that was incorrect but you sure have.

As for having me on ignore, I bet you do not and you continue to reply to my posts mr stinky head poo poo pants (I think that one beats dorkfish according to the dictionary of dorky name calling).

 

104 octane booster is not very potent, go with torco or klotz. Those are the 2 leading brands. You can use 1oz of klotz per 1 gallon of 93 octane and move it up to 95.5 octane so it is really cheap. A gallon shipped is $56 so that is only 43.7 cents per gallon which is really cheap. Or you can be stupid and use 2 gallons of paint thinner aka toluene to 14 gallons of gas and that equals out to $1.50 a gallon which is expensive, barely raises octane and damages your emmission system. You tell me which is the smart way to go, lol.

 

It's so nice having you on my ignore list. Praise the admins, what a great feature! I never even noticed, but the last two posts here are from you...pathetic!

By the way, here's some more on Toluene as fuel additive:

http://www.elektro.com/~audi/audi/toluene.html

 

lmao, someones feelings are really hurt!






































HA HAAAAAAA! You took me off your ignore list to read this post!

Now go run off and pour some more fingernail polish remover in your gas tank so you can make 8000 more horsepower!

 

I'm sorry, what? All I see is this:

"This message is hidden because mrphotoman is on your ignore list."

Can you help me fix this? I can't see your posts!

In answer to Maxwell's question, the equation given from the link I gave is the following:

Toulene
R+M/2...114
Mixtures with 91 Octane Premium
10%...93.3 Octane
20%...95.6 Octane
30%...97.9 Octane

104 Octane
R+M/2...104
Mixtures with 91 Octane Premium
10%....92.3 Octane
20%....93.6 Octane
30%....94.9 Octane

This is assuming a 15 gallon tank.