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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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Just bought 61,000 miles starts and runs great, cut it off and want start back, key turns fine, lights come on but want turn over to start. I can wait a couple hours or so and turn key on an off a couple times and it will start! Cut it off and same thing all over again, I appreciate if anyone could help, I'm new to crossfire!!!
 

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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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Look up RCM repair on here.. im a new member and samething happened to me. If u can solder u can fix it yourself..
 
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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It can be a corroded battery cable, or a few other things.... but it seems it is ALWAYS the solder on the RCB (engine control relay) that feeds the PTCM/ECM.

Resolder any odd looking lands, or just resolder the whole board (that is what I did) and you should be fine.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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had to do mine today ok now
 
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wld1985
Look up RCM repair on here.. im a new member and samething happened to me. If u can solder u can fix it yourself..
I appreciate that, I'll look it up, I've been tore up about it cause just brought my xfire home after buying it and this happens!! Thanks, so much.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 02:58 PM
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Ahaha,hiflyer samething happened to us.. after buying it on the way home with 44k miles broke down. To only start like once a day and run for 10mins..then dies edit,and 5o thank this forum for there help..
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by old man
had to do mine today ok now
Where do I find the RCM on my crossfire?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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Where do I find the RCM on my crossfire?
First, you can download the service manual for free here on the forum, you should do that.

Second, it is in the big box next to the battery. The RCM is the one farthest from the side of the car, that is, the one farthest back as you reach for it from the passenger side.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 08:59 PM
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Or you could go to this link LINK that some cool member made and get all of the info you want on the RCM!

Yer welcome!

Oh yeah. WELCOME TO THE FORUM!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 09:06 PM
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Are YOU still here? I thought Arizona was taken over by Mexico.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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Are YOU still here? I thought Arizona was taken over by Mexico.

Yep!
Still trying to catch up with all that has happened. How many times did you get married while I was out???
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hiflyer
Where do I find the RCM on my crossfire?
Tighed1 provided a link in his response but let me take this one step further.. "typically" red text is a "click on" text for another thread, just in case you didn't know. As in my signature in the end of this post.. RCM video
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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I haven't even been KISSED since you were here last.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 12:40 AM
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Well, I bought my xfire and I just spent another night working on it, it has 63,000 miles 04 crossfire! I drove it home a couple hundred miles and it ran great but 99 percent of the time it want crank over to start. Then out of the blue it starts an runs fine. I checked the RCM and it looks fine, so the other night we pecked on the starter and it started 3 times when we would bang on starter. So got new starter in today and installed it when I got in and the car will not even offer to turn over. Battery seems fine, battery cables clean and now new starter, I'm am so aggravated I thought for sure it would start when I finished putting new starter on that I have worked on for 2 evenings. Just bought my car about 2 to 3 weeks ago and it would be great to enjoy but No luck at all for me. Appreciate any good info
 

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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy
First, you can download the service manual for free here on the forum, you should do that.

Second, it is in the big box next to the battery. The RCM is the one farthest from the side of the car, that is, the one farthest back as you reach for it from the passenger side.
Thanks I printed off the manual and took the RCM out and inspected it, couldn't see any bad joints at all, seemed to be fine! But my car doesn't crank over 90% of the time and last night it up an started so I took a ride and for the first time it stranded me out on the road, just shut down and I had to get a car hauler to get me home, just went a couple miles when crossfire quit on me and would not crank over as usual but all the lights come on! I'm new to this sand just bought my car few weeks ago, I put a new starter on also, thanks again for any info!
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 10:29 AM
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Did you look at the RCM solder joints real good with a strong magnifying glass ?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
Did you look at the RCM solder joints real good with a strong magnifying glass ?
No, I didn't use any kind of magnify
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hiflyer
No, I didn't use any kind of magnify
You need to use magnification to see the hairline cracks in the solder - the naked eye (down Pizza-easy boy - I said "eye", not "thigh"!) won't pick them up.

You can fix the bad ones or refloat all of them (like Pizza suggested). You'll be surprised when you look at them with magnification.

Good luck
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Alright, ill pull it back out and take another look
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hiflyer
Alright, ill pull it back out and take another look
ok, i pulled RCM back out and magnified and yes i found the bad lands, thanks for the help. Do you know if theres a specific solder i need to use to fix this board?
 
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