Cold start taking too long - no codes
Cold start taking too long - no codes
Hello all,
My car is taking too long to start on a cold start but the check engine light has not come on...I replaced the CAMshaft position sensor (with Bosch sensor) about 2 years ago as well as the battery around the same time. Any ideas what it could be?
After it starts the first time, it will start the next several times without a problem.
My car is taking too long to start on a cold start but the check engine light has not come on...I replaced the CAMshaft position sensor (with Bosch sensor) about 2 years ago as well as the battery around the same time. Any ideas what it could be?
After it starts the first time, it will start the next several times without a problem.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
Now before anything can be answered, what type of "long" cold start are we talking about?
Is it cranking over but not starting at all the first time? Or is it just cranking a couple/few more times than usual? The oil grade also has an effect on a cold start. If you have 0w-40 in the motor, you shouldn't have any issues. If you have 5w-40 in the motor, which btw is fine for our engine, it might crank a bit longer on very cold starts.
For my last oil change, I actually had 5w-40 put it from Mobile 1 by my local Loeber Mercedes dealer. They knew it was the same motor as the SLK so yeah. 5w-40 takes longer to crank on very cold starts, but so far mine has been fine. I will go back to 0w-40 before winter hits here in Chicago.
Is it cranking over but not starting at all the first time? Or is it just cranking a couple/few more times than usual? The oil grade also has an effect on a cold start. If you have 0w-40 in the motor, you shouldn't have any issues. If you have 5w-40 in the motor, which btw is fine for our engine, it might crank a bit longer on very cold starts.
For my last oil change, I actually had 5w-40 put it from Mobile 1 by my local Loeber Mercedes dealer. They knew it was the same motor as the SLK so yeah. 5w-40 takes longer to crank on very cold starts, but so far mine has been fine. I will go back to 0w-40 before winter hits here in Chicago.
Last edited by Adrian_X; 05-05-2014 at 10:59 PM.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
Now before anything can be answered, what type of "long" cold start are we talking about?
Is it cranking over but not starting at all the first time? Or is it just cranking a couple/few more times than usual? The oil grade also has an effect on a cold start. If you have 0w-40 in the motor, you shouldn't have any issues. If you have 5w-40 in the motor, which btw is fine for our engine, it might crank a bit longer on very cold starts.
Is it cranking over but not starting at all the first time? Or is it just cranking a couple/few more times than usual? The oil grade also has an effect on a cold start. If you have 0w-40 in the motor, you shouldn't have any issues. If you have 5w-40 in the motor, which btw is fine for our engine, it might crank a bit longer on very cold starts.
Yes it is cranking a few more times than usual, I noticed it for the first time yesterday. Yesterday it took slightly longer to start but today it took significantly longer which has me worried.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
Pump or filter issue.
Last edited by onehundred80; 05-05-2014 at 11:29 PM.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
A possibility is the fuel pump check valve going bad, not holding any pressure to the rail would cause a longer wait time to fire up the injectors. Try turning the key to the on position(no cranking)for 5 sec.'s, before trying to crank/fire it up. Does that help? If that doesn't help, then the problem is something else. Good luck.
Last edited by dinasrt; 05-05-2014 at 11:47 PM.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
A possibility is the fuel pump check valve going bad, not holding any pressure to the rail would cause a longer wait time to fire up the injectors. Try turning the key to the on position(no cranking)for 5 sec.'s, before trying to crank/fire it up. Does that help? If that doesn't help, then the problem is something else. Good luck.
Originally Posted by onehundred80
Fuel related is my guess, the system is not holding or giving the correct fuel pressure.
Pump or filter issue.
Pump or filter issue.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
A possibility is the fuel pump check valve going bad, not holding any pressure to the rail would cause a longer wait time to fire up the injectors. Try turning the key to the on position(no cranking)for 5 sec.'s, before trying to crank/fire it up. Does that help? If that doesn't help, then the problem is something else. Good luck.
Before I cranked the engine, I heard this noise like as if the pump was trying to pump(?) followed by a knocking noise which subsided in about 5 seconds. Does that sound like what you were describing?
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
What about that one?
Is this something that I could replace myself? I'm no expert but I have done all the work on this car so far.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
I know I'm not the leading expert on this forum either, so I'm gonna want Max, or 180, or maybe even ala_xfire to confirm this one. But that looks like the right pump from the image shown, and the price is about right too.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ome-notes.html <--- pump replacement guide for ya, should help out a bit
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ome-notes.html <--- pump replacement guide for ya, should help out a bit
Last edited by Adrian_X; 05-06-2014 at 01:56 AM.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
I know I'm not the leading expert on this forum either, so I'm gonna want Max, or 180, or maybe even ala_xfire to confirm this one. But that looks like the right pump from the image shown, and the price is about right too.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ome-notes.html <--- pump replacement guide for ya, should help out a bit
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ome-notes.html <--- pump replacement guide for ya, should help out a bit
Thanks for all the help, I will try to replace the pump myself.
And I believe I will be ordering this pump:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-Fuel-Pump-Pierburg-OEM-7-22-15650-0007894-/271395877820?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ASLK320&hash=item3f307473bc&vxp=mtr
Another reputable company I believe and the price is a little better...
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
Unless it has already been done, you should change out the old decaying fuel lines back there while you're into it. I didn't notice what year your car was, but my 05'(built in 04') is now a decade old.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
Are the fuel lines difficult to change? If not I may give it a go while I'm under there.
Also, any idea what size the fuel line is so I could pick some up in advance? And can I just buy a regular fuel or does it have to be high pressure etc?
Last edited by Cedar11; 05-06-2014 at 01:00 PM.
Re: Cold start taking too long - no codes
I'd do the filter first and forego the pump or both at the same time if the pump is ordered. It's uncomfortable and difficult to get the clamps off both. I clamped the lines but got gas all over myself anyway. In other words, it's better to have little gas than a full tank like I had.
Les
Les
I'd do the filter first and forego the pump or both at the same time if the pump is ordered. It's uncomfortable and difficult to get the clamps off both. I clamped the lines but got gas all over myself anyway. In other words, it's better to have little gas than a full tank like I had.
Les
Les