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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 11:14 AM
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Hello everyone. I have two wires and I can’t

Wires are coiled up in my hand, but you can see where they lead to on the junction. Please help.
figure out where they go. They come from a junction behind the driver side headlight, and the picture you should be able to see exactly where they’re coming from. It’s two wires one wire is brown with the red stripe and the second wire is a solid brown any help would be greatly appreciated, I have no working horn and I’ve checked the airbag steering wheel connections are tight connections to the horns themselves are tight horns are new and not sure where these two wires lead to and if they may have something to do with my issue, all fuses are fine. RCM needs work , these wires are similar to the wires that to the horns themselves. That’s why I’m not sure if this may have something to do with my issue if someone can verify in their own vehicle where these two wires lead to I’d be greatly appreciative thanks for the input.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Two lonely wires can’t figure out where they go! Help

First, brown tells you nothing, why? Because solid brown is always ground in the Crossfire.

Now,
1) I see no "Brown/red" wire in the diagrams for the front lighting. But there IS a gray/red pair going to the front passenger side marker light. The right park lamp is also gray/red.

2) Horn wires are black/pink.

3) Why are you hiding the harness these wires come out of? That makes it even harder.

Manuals are all here, there is a pretty good "wiring" chapter in the service manuals:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ollection.html
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 11:55 AM
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[QUOTE=Whitexfire84;988942]Hello everyone. I have two wires and I can’t

Wires are coiled up in my hand, but you can see where they lead to on the junction. Please help.
figure out where they go. They come from a junction behind the driver side headlight, and the picture you should be able to see exactly where they’re coming from. It’s two wires one wire is brown with the red stripe and the second wire is a solid brown any help would be greatly appreciated, I have no working horn and I’ve checked the airbag steering wheel connections are tight connections to the horns themselves are tight horns are new and not sure where these two wires lead to and if they may have something to do with my issue, all fuses are fine. RCM needs work , these wires are similar to the wires that to the horns themselves. That’s why I’m not sure if this may have something to do with my issue if someone can verify in their own vehicle where these two wires lead to I’d be greatly appreciative thanks for the input.[/QUOTE
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it looks like fog lamp wiring. Horns have 3 wires each. With one solid brown to each horn. I found this one on my parts car. With 2 browns. Raining today I cannot verify without dissasembling a working car. But it is the only wiring with 2 browns together. I cannot actually tell where those two split from the larger part of the harness. A clear pic of that would be helpful for me to identify the location. Also. How far do they reach? Do they make it to the horn? Do they exit the main harness together or from different locations?

 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 11:58 AM
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Thank you for the quick reply all side markers currently working and I will try and get some better pictures once I get home can’t thank you enough. I had no idea that brown is a ground and I’ll double check the colors on that second wire. I don’t know if it’s just weathered but it definitely looks like brown with red and thank you for the link. If you don’t mind me asking so from those cluster of wrapped up wires, do you to your knowledge know what else comes from there all headlights are fine. Highbeams are fine. Side markers are fine. Parking lamps and blinkers are fine, I’m thinking it must somehow be connected to the horns. I may have to follow the horn wires back and see where they go and it looks as if the bumper may be coming off so I could do a more thorough evaluation of where these wires need to go.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 12:30 PM
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Default Re: Two lonely wires can’t figure out where they go! Help

thank you so much for doing that. I’m sorry you had to go out in the rain. This forum is top notch 🫡
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitexfire84
thank you so much for doing that. I’m sorry you had to go out in the rain. This forum is top notch 🫡
No worries bud. I was wrong about the fog lamps. Those wires go directly to the hood latch. Tucked under a plastic shield that runs under the top of the core support. Into a sensor or something. Pics are not that great.


 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 01:26 PM
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Ok so not fog lights…. Of course back to the drawing board


 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 01:30 PM
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Got it machfive… thank you 🙏🏼
pizza guy any idea what that might be?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitexfire84
Got it machfive… thank you 🙏🏼
pizza guy any idea what that might be?
Alarm sensor. So if someone breaks into your hood this sensor would trigger the alarm.
 

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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 01:57 PM
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Pretty advanced for 04 … thank you so much Machfive
gentleman and a scholar 🫡
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitexfire84
Pretty advanced for 04 … thank you so much Machfive
gentleman and a scholar 🫡
Agreed. The electronics on these outclassed American counterparts at that time. Happy to help out. Thanks for the kind words bud. I might have that sensor if yours is missing. Im currently trying to locate some other small parts for other members. I will keep an eye out for it and set it aside if I find it. In case you do.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 03:20 PM
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Can’t thank you enough sir. If you find a srt coupe spoiler set that aside for me too. Haha
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 03:30 PM
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Can’t thank you enough sir. If you find a srt coupe spoiler set that aside for me too. Haha
I only have the one on my srt. 🤣🤣 I sent you a pm with pics of our horn wiring hope it helps out.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 03:50 PM
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Hi Whitexfire84,
are you sure those wires don't go to your outdoor temperature sensor - it's located in that exact spot and only has 2 wires. Is your outdoor temperature sensor working?
-Jerry
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by red_2005_convertible
Hi Whitexfire84,
are you sure those wires don't go to your outdoor temperature sensor - it's located in that exact spot and only has 2 wires. Is your outdoor temperature sensor working?
-Jerry
Temp sensor is 20 inches below and towards the left. Green and brown wires. The brown and brown with red stripe are usually wrapped around the hood latch cable.

 

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Originally Posted by Whitexfire84
Got it machfive… thank you 🙏🏼
pizza guy any idea what that might be?
One of the issues with the service manual is that there is no guide to what a wire is based on color. All you can do, manual-wise, is to go to each section of the wiring chapter that MIGHT apply and look for the wire color combo.

In this case, that would be:
Front lighting
Turn Signals
Instrument cluster (contains sensor wire colors all over the car)
Horn/Cigar LIghter
Vehicle Speed (probably not but you never know)
Antilock brakes
Body Control Module (that module is involve din EVERYTHING in the car)

There are aspects to the service manual that make it hard to find what you are looking for.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 12:26 PM
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Can’t believe how expensive srt coupe spoilers are.. and super rare as well to find anywhere. As for the temp sensor mine is connected but dangling and tbh I don’t have the first clue where I fact it’s even supposed to go … as it is the temp sensor on the gauge cluster reads 100 degrees sometimes and on cold days 50’s. Doesn’t really make much sense being that it hasn’t been 100 degrees here in my since I don’t even know when. Maybe it’s reading just the engine bay temp? As for the first post on this thread. Luckily I have pretty thick skin and honestly had no idea that all grounds are brown . Thank you for all of your help fellas.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitexfire84
Can’t believe how expensive srt coupe spoilers are.. and super rare as well to find anywhere. As for the temp sensor mine is connected but dangling and tbh I don’t have the first clue where I fact it’s even supposed to go … as it is the temp sensor on the gauge cluster reads 100 degrees sometimes and on cold days 50’s. Doesn’t really make much sense being that it hasn’t been 100 degrees here in my since I don’t even know when. Maybe it’s reading just the engine bay temp? As for the first post on this thread. Luckily I have pretty thick skin and honestly had no idea that all grounds are brown . Thank you for all of your help fellas.
The temp sensor is located behind the fascia cover on the drivers side of the bumper cover.


Its about being respectful to others regardless of their knowledge.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 12:49 PM
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The SRT-6 spoilers are expensive and hard to find because there were only 3709 of them produced worldwide.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 12:54 PM
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The SRT-6 spoilers are expensive and hard to find because there were only 3709 of them produced worldwide.
Yep. The Crossfire SRT's are the rarest cars produced under the SRT platform to date.
 
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