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I took my crossfire to the dealer yesterday because the tpms light has been on for months. They charged me $130 just to say that the tpms computer is out and the part is $700 and no one in Hawaii has it in stock. Is there a cheaper alternative and can I replace this myself?
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Re: Tpms
Originally Posted by Kagen
I took my crossfire to the dealer yesterday because the tpms light has been on for months. They charged me $130 just to say that the tpms computer is out and the part is $700 and no one in Hawaii has it in stock. Is there a cheaper alternative and can I replace this myself?
The unit they are talking about is also the control that sends the signal to open and shut the garage door, does that work? if so I would not worry about it too much.
I would want to know how they got that diagnosis as I find dealerships worse than politicians for lying. They just want your money and assume that most if not all of their customers are idiots. I tend to agree with them on this issue, I have seen absolute lies told to customers that a reasonably informed person would laugh at, as they were based on idiotic reasons by the dealer rep.
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Re: Tpms
The TPMS 'computer' is the Universal Garage Door Opener/Tire Pressure Monitoring System (Homelink)... there are two part numbers listed in the parts manual....
05099158AA
05102560AA Export
Try looking it up online and see what you can find.... You will probably still have to have them connect up the DRBIII and program the sensors in....
but maybe not.... the service manual says it just snaps out and back in...
05099158AA
05102560AA Export
Try looking it up online and see what you can find.... You will probably still have to have them connect up the DRBIII and program the sensors in....
but maybe not.... the service manual says it just snaps out and back in...
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Re: Tpms
agreed with 180.
just put black electrical tap over it.
My tpms light has been on for a year. Last time I went to the dealership to get my tire replaced under a Road Hazard coverage they provided which was a $0 deductible for me, they told me the light was on and asked if I wanted them to fix it for some ridiculous amount of money, I laughed and told them to stay away from it.
You don't need the tpms, just keep driving until you feel and hear the clankidy clank of the rim on road.
just put black electrical tap over it.
My tpms light has been on for a year. Last time I went to the dealership to get my tire replaced under a Road Hazard coverage they provided which was a $0 deductible for me, they told me the light was on and asked if I wanted them to fix it for some ridiculous amount of money, I laughed and told them to stay away from it.
You don't need the tpms, just keep driving until you feel and hear the clankidy clank of the rim on road.
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Re: Tpms
Originally Posted by Kagen
I couldn't find anything online with those part numbers. Where is this thing on the car? Hopefully someplace easy to get to.
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Sadly the black electrical tape will not fit, I have tried it and it does not stick to the plastic. If the bulb dies then there is a fault indicated on startup.
I ignore it and when it gets cooler, I will attempt to find a better way to blot that useless thing out. My tps are in my stocker wheels and I have not used them in the last 50 of MORE tire changes.
If your garage door opener dies, there are three channel remotes on ebay for less than 40$ to replace them. You can wait till a scrap car makes its parts available for replacement at a fair price.
I will avoid tps car options in the future, if the tires are low then it is part of Darwins natural selection and like the bird flu, I say bring it on to thin the herd. Enjoy, Woody
I ignore it and when it gets cooler, I will attempt to find a better way to blot that useless thing out. My tps are in my stocker wheels and I have not used them in the last 50 of MORE tire changes.
If your garage door opener dies, there are three channel remotes on ebay for less than 40$ to replace them. You can wait till a scrap car makes its parts available for replacement at a fair price.
I will avoid tps car options in the future, if the tires are low then it is part of Darwins natural selection and like the bird flu, I say bring it on to thin the herd. Enjoy, Woody
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I still have original Contis on my car, but they are gonna get replaced with JMHK's Conti DWS's in a few weeks.
The guy at the tire shop didn't even want to try to talk me into new TPMS thingies... but he said they would replace them and "set them up" to work with the car.
Just not sure I want to blow the money. SO........... if they replace them, what is involved in "Teaching" the car to talk to the new ones?
What are the chances this will cost me another hour of my day? Should I just leave the original senors on the rims? If I replace them is that the same as the old "New valves and stems" or not? I always ask for new valves and stems cause there is no need to re-use a cheap part that can fail.
ANyone want to explain if the TPMS things ARE the valves/stems?
The guy at the tire shop didn't even want to try to talk me into new TPMS thingies... but he said they would replace them and "set them up" to work with the car.
Just not sure I want to blow the money. SO........... if they replace them, what is involved in "Teaching" the car to talk to the new ones?
What are the chances this will cost me another hour of my day? Should I just leave the original senors on the rims? If I replace them is that the same as the old "New valves and stems" or not? I always ask for new valves and stems cause there is no need to re-use a cheap part that can fail.
ANyone want to explain if the TPMS things ARE the valves/stems?
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Re: Tpms
Originally Posted by pizzaguy
ANyone want to explain if the TPMS things ARE the valves/stems?
I found this answer from another post.
Originally Posted by AlvinByars
wheeldealer,
I apologize for giving a long answer to your question, but it may be helpful to know how the tire pressure monitor (TPM) system works.
Each wheel contains a tire pressure sensor (TPS) module that is part of the valve stem assembly. The TPS is powered by an internal, non-replaceable battery. To save battery power, the TPS is only activated when the car reaches approximately 20 mph and a roll switch is closed. Approximately every 30 seconds the TPS monitors the internal pressure of the tire. If the internal pressure is below one of two programmed values (low pressure, or critical pressure), or if the internal pressure is more than 1 psi below the value last recorded by the TPS, then the TPS will transmit a warning radio signal approximately once every 60 seconds. This signal is transmitted through the valve stem which acts as a transmitter antenna. In addition to the warning code (low pressure, critical pressure, or 1 psi change in pressure per 30 seconds), the TPS also sends a unique wheel identification code.
The TPS signal is received by the tire pressure monitor (TPM) module which resides in the HomeLink Universal Transceiver, which also contains the garage/gate door opener. When the TPM receives a signal from one of the TPS modules, it sets a trouble code and indirectly turns on the tire pressure warning light and/or activates a chime (if the critical pressure threshold was reached) through the Body Control Module (BCM).
If the TPS units properly fit your new wheels, then they should work fine. However, since each TPS has a unique code identifying the wheel in which it resides, you need to make certain that each TPS goes back on the same corner of the car from which it came. And if you rotate your tires/wheels, then you need to have your Chrysler dealer reprogram the TPS units so that they correctly identify on which corner of the car they now reside. Also, since the TPS units are constructed from aluminum, you need to make certain that the new wheels are also constructed from aluminum. If not, corrosion in the TPS units can occur from placing dissimilar metals in contact with each other, and this corrosion can cause the TPS to fail.
I hope this helps, and again, I apologize for the long-winded answer.
I apologize for giving a long answer to your question, but it may be helpful to know how the tire pressure monitor (TPM) system works.
Each wheel contains a tire pressure sensor (TPS) module that is part of the valve stem assembly. The TPS is powered by an internal, non-replaceable battery. To save battery power, the TPS is only activated when the car reaches approximately 20 mph and a roll switch is closed. Approximately every 30 seconds the TPS monitors the internal pressure of the tire. If the internal pressure is below one of two programmed values (low pressure, or critical pressure), or if the internal pressure is more than 1 psi below the value last recorded by the TPS, then the TPS will transmit a warning radio signal approximately once every 60 seconds. This signal is transmitted through the valve stem which acts as a transmitter antenna. In addition to the warning code (low pressure, critical pressure, or 1 psi change in pressure per 30 seconds), the TPS also sends a unique wheel identification code.
The TPS signal is received by the tire pressure monitor (TPM) module which resides in the HomeLink Universal Transceiver, which also contains the garage/gate door opener. When the TPM receives a signal from one of the TPS modules, it sets a trouble code and indirectly turns on the tire pressure warning light and/or activates a chime (if the critical pressure threshold was reached) through the Body Control Module (BCM).
If the TPS units properly fit your new wheels, then they should work fine. However, since each TPS has a unique code identifying the wheel in which it resides, you need to make certain that each TPS goes back on the same corner of the car from which it came. And if you rotate your tires/wheels, then you need to have your Chrysler dealer reprogram the TPS units so that they correctly identify on which corner of the car they now reside. Also, since the TPS units are constructed from aluminum, you need to make certain that the new wheels are also constructed from aluminum. If not, corrosion in the TPS units can occur from placing dissimilar metals in contact with each other, and this corrosion can cause the TPS to fail.
I hope this helps, and again, I apologize for the long-winded answer.
Originally Posted by jsisabella
OK - here is my experience:
I did use stock 18" rims all the way around with TPM sensors on the new wheels and snow tires.
When installed, the TPM light was not on and did not come on if I let out some air in one of the tires as a test.
I took it to the dealer, who had to re-link the sensors to the monitor. He had to hook up the computer console to the plug under the dash and go around to each wheel with a round magnet placed on the inflator. The console would beep to indicate that the monitor had received a signal from the sensor. This whole process takes about two minutes.
When I switched back to the Michellins this spring, I had to do the reset again.
So my guess would be that if you put on tires with no sensors, the TPM light will just stay off.
Hope this helps.
I did use stock 18" rims all the way around with TPM sensors on the new wheels and snow tires.
When installed, the TPM light was not on and did not come on if I let out some air in one of the tires as a test.
I took it to the dealer, who had to re-link the sensors to the monitor. He had to hook up the computer console to the plug under the dash and go around to each wheel with a round magnet placed on the inflator. The console would beep to indicate that the monitor had received a signal from the sensor. This whole process takes about two minutes.
When I switched back to the Michellins this spring, I had to do the reset again.
So my guess would be that if you put on tires with no sensors, the TPM light will just stay off.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Tpms
Chrysler TPMS application and manufacturer information here.
Chrysler TPMS - Chrysler TPMS Tools I Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems
Chrysler TPMS - Chrysler TPMS Tools I Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems
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