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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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I'm curious as to how many thermal cycles that thing can take............I can see it now, Nice cherry red turbo.....big puddle of water......Hmmmmmm?

I'm not saying that it doesn't work......just food for thought.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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That thing will probably cost more to have fabricated and running right then kit costs. I would imagine with 6-8 lbs you would make it into the 13's if it was set up right, I just don't see it as being reliable to drive every day though. Rear mount turbos have the potential to make serious power (1000+ in mustangs) but like apkano said, the thing will probably shatter when it gets hot and goes through a puddle. Your best bet is probably to start saving for an srt.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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do your homework, read Corky Bells book, purchase all the parts and make your own rear mounted turbo set up, then send your ecu into Kleeman and pay them $1000 to have it configured for low boost. done deal!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
LOL I love these threads that go NO WHERE


UNTIL RIGHT FREAKIN NOW LOOK WHAT I HAVE FOUND FOR ALL YOU N/A CROSSFIRES http://www.performanceinjectionequip...mi_turbo_kits/

This is the first kit I have seen with pictures and proof the car actually runs here is straight from the site.

"Make no mistake, we LOVE HEMI’s around here, but we love tuning and turbo charging even more which is why you’ll find us offering turbo kits and tuning programs for just about any Chrysler branded vehicle out there. Check back to follow along on our build-up of a Turbo charged Chrysler Crossfire, Chrysler Aspen and Dakota R/T."

here is what it looks like on a crossfire

I am sure someone posted this under twin turbo if I remember right
I'd hate to be that guy when he hits a pot hole or speed bump too hard!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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It was cheaper for me to go to the SRT6 with a trade in then it was for me to try and get a pro charger or turbo to work. The SRT6's ARE being given away right now I would do it before you get nothing for your limited.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by apkano
I'm curious as to how many thermal cycles that thing can take............I can see it now, Nice cherry red turbo.....big puddle of water......Hmmmmmm?

I'm not saying that it doesn't work......just food for thought.
Does your catalytic converters or muffler glow now? What you are speaking of are turbo endurance test on engine dynos. Race cars could get like that but not a street car. It wouldn't be creating high enough EGTs with those low boost levels to get it that hot.

Not only that but due to the distance from the exhaust manifold the turbo would never get that hot.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
It was cheaper for me to go to the SRT6 with a trade in then it was for me to try and get a pro charger or turbo to work. The SRT6's ARE being given away right now I would do it before you get nothing for your limited.
not anymore, the trade in on your limited is pathetic about $10k because the dealers don't want them and it's not a very useful car for everyday people., your better off keeping the limited.

SRT6 is getting harder to find while dealers won't give you much of a warrantee either, your gonna pay at least $25k. IMO, your better off buying the Limited Automatic crossfire for $14k and just enjoy yourself. SRT's need softer shocks, and improved seats, IC pump upgrade along with a bette IC system. soon enought you got $5k invested in the car. Otherwise spend the money on something more useful and cheap to upgrade like a GT Rustang.
 

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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I have seen the STS kits on multiple F-Bodies and was very impressed. So, I have nothing to say about the compant but great things...

And, I how can we say you won't find a SRT-6 for less than 25k, I see them quite often online for anywhere from 19-23k; best bang for the buck, hands down
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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STS is a very reputable company.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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they claim 50% HP gain at 5 PSI, not bad. that would take the stock crossfire to the 330 hp range, and 65% at 7 PSI which would be around 365 HP. They even have this kit attached to a shitty ecotec 2.2 liter engine and it runs fine. Isnt the supercharger on the srt-6 running at around 1 bar( apprx 14.5 psi?)?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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i heard the same thing. but im not 100% sure on that. i mean all im looking for is high 13's and if this turbo is as reliable as you think it is and the gains are that good then hell i might just consider it. but my main concern (which other people pointed out) is that im worried about the fact that its by my exhaust. like if you go over a speed bump or hit a lil pot whole or sumthin wouldnt that mess it up??. if it was surely fixed id be more for it.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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check out the horsepowertv episode on the sts site, where they put the system on a vette, it looks like a pretty clean and sturdy install to me
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by msheredy
Does your catalytic converters or muffler glow now? What you are speaking of are turbo endurance test on engine dynos. Race cars could get like that but not a street car. It wouldn't be creating high enough EGTs with those low boost levels to get it that hot.

Not only that but due to the distance from the exhaust manifold the turbo would never get that hot.
To be more specific......CC's and mufflers have a little looser dimensional tolerances than a turbo with a rotating assembly. I didn't say they would crack....but I wonder about bearings, fatigue fractures, and fittings. I work with welding and metallurgy 7 days a week........I know what happens when hot metal gets quenched with cold slushy water.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by apkano
To be more specific......CC's and mufflers have a little looser dimensional tolerances than a turbo with a rotating assembly. I didn't say they would crack....but I wonder about bearings, fatigue fractures, and fittings. I work with welding and metallurgy 7 days a week........I know what happens when hot metal gets quenched with cold slushy water.
Understood, the point I was making was that the turbo is located after both sets of cats so heat is absorbed/dissipated by them so the amount of heat that the turbo would see is nothing near that of an engine bay mounted one. If anything the bearings would last longer due to the lower temps. Plus the constant airflow (while driving) underneath the car would cool it as well.

One thing though for anyone interested in this type of system is that the turbo needs to be supported by some type of bracing or crossmember because those puppies are pretty heavy.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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well i talked to the guys at sts and they already did this to a crossfire! i have a picture of it and they have a program to tune it. they gave me the number of the guy that they installed it on and hes pushin 300hp. on only5-6psi boost. im gonna call him today to check it out. but how do you post pics on here so i can show you guys????
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by X-FIREcmv
well i talked to the guys at sts and they already did this to a crossfire! i have a picture of it and they have a program to tune it. they gave me the number of the guy that they installed it on and hes pushin 300hp. on only5-6psi boost. im gonna call him today to check it out. but how do you post pics on here so i can show you guys????
POST IT IN YOUR USER GALLERY
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by X-FIREcmv
...but how do you post pics on here so i can show you guys????
Click the "Gallery" link on the top right side of the site banner. Then click the "Upload Photos" link just below the Gallery link. Then using the "Choose File" buttons browse your computer and select the photos. Remember 1 image per button so you can load 10 images at a time.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by X-FIREcmv
the turbo they have on this site is weird. ive never seen this kind of turbo kit. does this help at all??? it seems a lil fishy to me. what do you guys think?

http://www.ststurbo.com/universal_system
I go to UTI in Exton, PA and we have this kit @ school.

We had this kit on an 05 Pontiac GT slOw. with the 6.0L block. There is a dyno @ school. The instructors installed it during an open house for parents students, and future students to see. The car was totally disassembled beforehand to allow the install in one day. That block ended up being toast. Don't think is was any errors in assembly or mfg. They ran runs @ something like 4psi and raised it in incrememnts. From what I heard the block "developed it's gaping hole alongside cylinders 2 and 4" in the area of 10 to 13psi. not even one atmosphere!! The power put down was in the area of 600 if I'm not mistakes. This GTO since then has a new block and no STS turbo kit on it.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeep2Xfire
I go to UTI in Exton, PA and we have this kit @ school.

We had this kit on an 05 Pontiac GT slOw. with the 6.0L block. There is a dyno @ school. The instructors installed it during an open house for parents students, and future students to see. The car was totally disassembled beforehand to allow the install in one day. That block ended up being toast. Don't think is was any errors in assembly or mfg. They ran runs @ something like 4psi and raised it in incrememnts. From what I heard the block "developed it's gaping hole alongside cylinders 2 and 4" in the area of 10 to 13psi. not even one atmosphere!! The power put down was in the area of 600 if I'm not mistakes. This GTO since then has a new block and no STS turbo kit on it.
sounds like the instructor made a big booboo
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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How much it the crossfire kit from STS? sounds like fun!
 
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