99,134 mile Coupe six speed
Originally Posted by Joliet John
You mean on an automatic, right? Sprint booster doesn't do anything for a stick, right?
I drove my 6 speed modding the engine seriously. I put off the Sprint booster partly because of the statements of some here on the Forum that it wasn't a big deal.
THEY WERE WRONG!
It doesn't make the car go faster. It makes the engine respond faster to your inputs. Important on a stick shifter.
Once I installed mine I have become a fierce advocate of the device. It should have been on the car from the factoy.
If you want to drive the car aggressively, it should be your first mod on a new Crossie.
Period
Second mod should be a sticker on the window that says "EUROCHARGED"
Last edited by Franc Rauscher; Aug 6, 2010 at 10:39 AM.
Originally Posted by Chris L.
"As to Stick Vrs Auto, Drag racing, Auto wins. Twisties and clutching thru turns like the Dragon, Stick wins"
Franc, what is the best 1/4 mile for an unmodified NA automatic..????? I know muscle's 6 spd did 14.38 at 97......
Franc, what is the best 1/4 mile for an unmodified NA automatic..????? I know muscle's 6 spd did 14.38 at 97......
Autos are faster on drags. No Question.That's why you see them more often than sticks at the track. But on road courses they aren't. So far. As the technology improves in the automatic, with double clutch systems and paddle controls giving the drivers more direct resposes, the auto will soon reign supreme there as well.
I'm not a stick guy because I think it is faster. I just prefer the direct, simpler control of the vehicle's progress over the ground.
That and the 6 spd unit is more reliable and cheaper to fix.
Besides, on interstate driving, even an SRT auto is a bore.
roadster with a stick
Last edited by Franc Rauscher; Aug 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM.
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That's how I broke my halfshaft in two.
Originally Posted by Chris L.
To see what it will really do, from a dead stop, put in the clutch...gas pedal all the way to the floor...(tach will stop & hold at 4200 RPM), drop clutch & keep the gas to the floor during shifts.....
Good Luck....
Good Luck....
Think twice on this car. At 99k+ MOST banks will not finance this car. Not a big deal for you as a cash buyer, but it drops what the car is worth. If banks will not touch it, it becomes a cash car or a buy here-pay here car---worth less. You can pay a $1000 or so more and get a car with 40,000 less miles---much better deal---PLUS you have 2+ years of driving before it becomes a "cash" car!!!!
Auction price for this car is $6,000, so go from there---it's a $7,000 car retail---that's 15+% ROI. Remember, I do this for a living!!! The reason that he dropped the price was simple---it was TOO high to begin with.
The car will go more miles---that is not the point. What it is worth is the point. As soon as it breaks 100k, all the banks that have good rates will NOT touch it, so it drops on that day like a rock because the BIG money RUNS from it!!!
Auction price for this car is $6,000, so go from there---it's a $7,000 car retail---that's 15+% ROI. Remember, I do this for a living!!! The reason that he dropped the price was simple---it was TOO high to begin with.
The car will go more miles---that is not the point. What it is worth is the point. As soon as it breaks 100k, all the banks that have good rates will NOT touch it, so it drops on that day like a rock because the BIG money RUNS from it!!!
Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
I don't recall. NA Crossies aren't really drag cars. So I don't follow it too much.
Autos are faster on drags. No Question.That's why you see them more oftenthan sticks at the track. But on road courses theyaren't. So far. As the technology improves in the automatic, with double clutch systems andpaddle controls giving the drivers more direct resposes, the auto will soon reign supreme there as well.
I'm not a stick guy because I think it is faster. I just prefer the direct, simpler control of the vehicle's progress over the ground.
That and the 6 spd unit is more reliable and cheaper to fix.
Besides, on interstate driving, even an SRT auto is a bore.
roadster with a stick
Autos are faster on drags. No Question.That's why you see them more oftenthan sticks at the track. But on road courses theyaren't. So far. As the technology improves in the automatic, with double clutch systems andpaddle controls giving the drivers more direct resposes, the auto will soon reign supreme there as well.
I'm not a stick guy because I think it is faster. I just prefer the direct, simpler control of the vehicle's progress over the ground.
That and the 6 spd unit is more reliable and cheaper to fix.
Besides, on interstate driving, even an SRT auto is a bore.
roadster with a stick
Yeah, the miles are high, but you're saving $28k over the original sticker!! And graphite IS the prettiest color. If it checks out and runs well, and especially if you have evidence the owner did a lot of highway driving, I would risk it. It sounds like it was well cared for and that is also important.
Originally Posted by rush549
It's not that they are faster. They are more consistent, and hold up to abuse better for this kind of driving.
I have no recollection of Merc Autos holding up better.
Three S-body Benzes and all three had tranny issues.
Only one had a modded engine. If you call a gray market European version "Modded"
None were ever at a track, even to just watch.
Running RPMS to 4K and dropping the clutch isn't abuse. It's murder.
Pull that stunt with an auto and see what happens.
Sorry pal, I couldn't resist.

You are right about autos providing a more consistant run at the drag strip. Which suggests that the technique of shifting may be a challenge for some to learn.
My stick shifts smoothly and automatically unless I'm thinking about it.
Last edited by Franc Rauscher; Aug 6, 2010 at 03:49 PM.
Originally Posted by JimmyJames
Think twice on this car. At 99k+ MOST banks will not finance this car. Not a big deal for you as a cash buyer, but it drops what the car is worth. If banks will not touch it, it becomes a cash car or a buy here-pay here car---worth less. You can pay a $1000 or so more and get a car with 40,000 less miles---much better deal---PLUS you have 2+ years of driving before it becomes a "cash" car!!!!
Auction price for this car is $6,000, so go from there---it's a $7,000 car retail---that's 15+% ROI. Remember, I do this for a living!!! The reason that he dropped the price was simple---it was TOO high to begin with.
The car will go more miles---that is not the point. What it is worth is the point. As soon as it breaks 100k, all the banks that have good rates will NOT touch it, so it drops on that day like a rock because the BIG money RUNS from it!!!
Auction price for this car is $6,000, so go from there---it's a $7,000 car retail---that's 15+% ROI. Remember, I do this for a living!!! The reason that he dropped the price was simple---it was TOO high to begin with.
The car will go more miles---that is not the point. What it is worth is the point. As soon as it breaks 100k, all the banks that have good rates will NOT touch it, so it drops on that day like a rock because the BIG money RUNS from it!!!
He has two new front tires on it - but the back ones came with the car. He says he also did front brakes and rotors. So maybe he has $6750 in it? Means he could take $8000 and still have made a living selling me the car.
Given the news at work today (that one guy laid off is now considered gone for the foreseeable future and other stuff) ... I am less excited about spending money now. THIS SUCKS SO BADLY - I hate being depressed about the future - mine has always been a good, stable, safe career - for almost 30 years now - to learn at 50 that the company is less-than-sure of it's future is not a good feeling.
Think I might disappear for the weekend to the north Georiga mountains in the Roadster and leave the internet, cell phone, pager and everything else behind.
But thanks for the input, JJ!
Originally Posted by pizzaguy
I was wondering what he paid at auction -and it was just yesterday that I learned that he started at $10995. I THOUGHT the $9995 price was his first price, again, until yesterday.
He has two new front tires on it - but the back ones came with the car. He says he also did front brakes and rotors. So maybe he has $6750 in it? Means he could take $8000 and still have made a living selling me the car.
Given the news at work today (that one guy laid off is now considered gone for the foreseeable future and other stuff) ... I am less excited about spending money now. THIS SUCKS SO BADLY - I hate being depressed about the future - mine has always been a good, stable, safe career - for almost 30 years now - to learn at 50 that the company is less-than-sure of it's future is not a good feeling.
Think I might disappear for the weekend to the north Georiga mountains in the Roadster and leave the internet, cell phone, pager and everything else behind.
But thanks for the input, JJ!
He has two new front tires on it - but the back ones came with the car. He says he also did front brakes and rotors. So maybe he has $6750 in it? Means he could take $8000 and still have made a living selling me the car.
Given the news at work today (that one guy laid off is now considered gone for the foreseeable future and other stuff) ... I am less excited about spending money now. THIS SUCKS SO BADLY - I hate being depressed about the future - mine has always been a good, stable, safe career - for almost 30 years now - to learn at 50 that the company is less-than-sure of it's future is not a good feeling.
Think I might disappear for the weekend to the north Georiga mountains in the Roadster and leave the internet, cell phone, pager and everything else behind.
But thanks for the input, JJ!
For two grand less, within the budget numbers you just posted, you could drive Subeman's coupe. He is just hours from where you are.
It's SSB which is proven time and time again to be easiest to keep clean and is the fastest color.
roadster with a stick
Originally Posted by rush549
iThat's how I broke my halfshaft in two. 
Based upon your's & others' bad results.....I think I will only do it if someone is pointing a gun at me & cocking it!!
Ya think 3500 is pretty safe?
Originally Posted by Chris L.
I've never actually tried it myself, (I did verify that from a stop...if you stomp it with the clutch in the engine will rev & stop at 4200 rpm) I was waiting to see how many people have done it without breaking something.
Based upon your's & others' bad results.....I think I will only do it if someone is pointing a gun at me & cocking it!!
Ya think 3500 is pretty safe?
Based upon your's & others' bad results.....I think I will only do it if someone is pointing a gun at me & cocking it!!
Ya think 3500 is pretty safe?
roadster with a stick
Originally Posted by Chris L.
3,000 RPMs ?
That's whyit is hard to burn the rears with a stick. You can torque up the automatic and do it but the heat will hurt the tranny.
The manual clutch is hydraulic which has a limited engagement flow. Your best bet it to engage it at lower RPMs (2K) and then accelerate. Depending on the throttle response (can you say Sprint Boooster) you can, with practice, time it to maximize the thrust torque of the engine to the engagement potential of the clutch.
Once you are lauched and out of first, the rest of the gears snap easily.
If you want better, put the car on a rack and pull the clutch assy.
Like I said, it wasn't designed for drag raciing.
Last edited by Franc Rauscher; Aug 8, 2010 at 11:33 PM.
Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Wrong, You obviously haven't tried it.
First off, I do NOT want to dissuade you or anyone looking at the high mileage Crossfire.
That being said, I think 9000$ is high. I have my Graphite 6 speed over two years (April 2008) and I paid 12,500$ for it with 18,xxx miles on it. I did have to fly to Wisconsin to get it and the drive back to Pennsylvania was a little hairy with the dryrotted tires, but 100K miles for 9 grand. Sounds a little high.
But if you want it get it. You're young enough to enjoy it and old enough to pay for it.
That being said, I think 9000$ is high. I have my Graphite 6 speed over two years (April 2008) and I paid 12,500$ for it with 18,xxx miles on it. I did have to fly to Wisconsin to get it and the drive back to Pennsylvania was a little hairy with the dryrotted tires, but 100K miles for 9 grand. Sounds a little high.
But if you want it get it. You're young enough to enjoy it and old enough to pay for it.
Originally Posted by pizzaguy
Oh, two things... don't no one go buying it out from under me! (Of course, if someone DID, I could look at that base Roadster in Florida....
Is the hunt REALLY over?)
Second, IF I buy it (Boilerup is gonna puke
) I've GOT to have a Nav radio like in my roadster... anyone got the original NAV radio for sale?
Second, IF I buy it (Boilerup is gonna puke
) I've GOT to have a Nav radio like in my roadster... anyone got the original NAV radio for sale?
Originally Posted by Joliet John
I keep seeing a reference to "SSB Coupe" ... what's SSB?
Originally Posted by blackbelt_010892
I have the stock unit bubble wrapped and boxed up waiting for a Buyer. It comes from a 2005 SSB N/A Coupe and was removed at 45,000 miles. I took it out a week after purchasing the car, never took the time to see if it had the built in NAV. Let me know how to tell and I will unbox the unit and check the model numbers.


