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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Anybody know this guy?

Troopers' actions after high-speed chase saved two lives :: WRAL.com
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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OK who is missing?? The car had limited wheels and was on the east coast. Maybe someone was doing stupid things and got terminated. More will come out for sure.

Sad, Wdy. Youall know my position about driving crazy. 140 in a limited ??
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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OK who is missing?? The car had limited wheels and was on the east coast. Maybe someone was doing stupid things and got terminated. More will come out for sure.

Sad, Wdy. Youall know my position about driving crazy. 140 in a limited ??
They're certainly fun cars for spirited driving but at 140? They're not up to the task.
I could only speculate that back end came loose and he lost it.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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If not driven erratically I believe a Limited should be able to handle those speeds just fine. My guess is the driver was driving erratically due to the fact he was leading a high speed chase from the fuzz.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:43 PM
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At approximately 2:30 a.m. Saturday, a black Chrysler Crossfire approached a N.C. Highway Patrol DWI checkpoint on Highway 98 near North Adams Road in Durham County when it made a quick U-turn and turned back on 98, said N.C. Highway Patrol 1st Sgt. Jeff Gordon, a public information officer. Two patrol units pursued the Chrysler, whose driver lost control of the vehicle near Southview Road. The Chrysler went on the left shoulder, overcorrected and went back across the road, colliding head-on with a small box truck, Gordon said. The suspect’s vehicle burst into flames and the driver, a man, was ejected.

Read more: The Herald-Sun - Driver killed after chase wreck on N C 98

Guessing that should have read "right shoulder"..
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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I found this video on the subject today, not much left.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mrobinso
If not driven erratically I believe a Limited should be able to handle those speeds just fine. My guess is the driver was driving erratically due to the fact he was leading a high speed chase from the fuzz.
I agree. Mine will do this and 10 more.

BUT, things can go south, as it were, in a New York minute with a poorly thought-out steering input.

Or, maybe, a couple of beers? Poor choice in either case.

I'm just sorry for this person's family at this time of year. The turkey just will not taste as good...
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 08:10 AM
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So sad to hear that a life was lost....my thoughts and prayers to all.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 08:57 AM
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An armed society needs no police. Nobody to give chase.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by maxcichon
I agree. Mine will do this and 10 more.

BUT, things can go south, as it were, in a New York minute with a poorly thought-out steering input.

Or, maybe, a couple of beers? Poor choice in either case.

I'm just sorry for this person's family at this time of year. The turkey just will not taste as good...
I don't want to start a debate on NA handling in high speed chases, I might offer that the SLK was designed for the autobahn (80-120mph), not the Crosfire. Even with the SRT, the problem is keeping the back end connected. There's not much weight back there and they swing around easily..

Check out what happened to this C4 Vette.
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Anyway's this guy probably had a 6-pack in him, he saw the cops and hit the pedal on the right instead of the left. It was a stupid thing to do.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by waldig
140 in a limited ??
Why is everyone surprised.. ?

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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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165 MPH. 'Nuff said.

Autobahn is 0 to unlimited (in marked no-restriction zones).

Been there? I have.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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165 MPH. 'Nuff said.

Autobahn is 0 to unlimited (in marked no-restriction zones).

Been there? I have.
Look at the vid again. It wasn't doing 165. More likly 120-130ish. The Crown Vics were right behind him.

Most of the vette guys frown on rear wings but I think it would have helped on this one.

btw, the Govt recogmended speed on the autobahn is 80 mph.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Well guys,
I have to say that I would drive my XF at 140mph, if the correct conditions existed. At 140mph you make steering changes very slow. The key here is don't drive fast when impaired, or flee from the police. Dumb move. In Texas, fleeing from the police is 5 years in prision.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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These cars are structurally very sound and as we have seen from other accidents being reported on this forum, either that members have been in personally or in the news, they tend to do a pretty good job protecting the vehicle's occupants in spite of their small size. This story just shows you that even a safe car will do very little to save you above a reasonable speed.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beep
I don't want to start a debate on NA handling in high speed chases, I might offer that the SLK was designed for the autobahn (80-120mph), not the Crosfire. Even with the SRT, the problem is keeping the back end connected. There's not much weight back there and they swing around easily..

Check out what happened to this C4 Vette. Corvette crashes at 165mph!!! - YouTube.

Anyway's this guy probably had a 6-pack in him, he saw the cops and hit the pedal on the right instead of the left. It was a stupid thing to do.
This video was on burnells police chases for many years. His top speed was tracked at 165ish but not at this portion. He actually survived the wreck as he was ejected and tumbled in the softer dirt/sand on the shoulder. I do not remember if drugs or alcohol was involved in this one chase but thats moot he is an A$$
 

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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beep
I might offer that the SLK was designed for the autobahn (80-120mph), not the Crosfire. Even with the SRT, the problem is keeping the back end connected. There's not much weight back there and they swing around easily..
Why would you say such nonsense in a crossfire forum?

Fact is the crossfires were designed for the autobahn just like the SLK. Mechanically it is the same car!

As for the back end... that is why there are pop up spoilers just like Audi and Porsche. To help push the rear end down at high speeds.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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Just give my 2cents after reading the two articles about it
1. He shouldn't have busted the u turn before the check point
2. Whether or not he was intoxicated , never drive drunk !
3. The police had no reason to pursue unless when u turned he did so erratically
Which neither article says the driver did

In my personal opinion I don't think he was "drunk" , but definitely had a beer or two , after seeing the cops following him adrenaline and alcohol doing there thing leading to bad decisions and over driving the car , not saying the xf can't handle 140 which i believe it can but only in a straight line , this is no f1 car or a super car it can't handle sudden movements @140 mph (which i believe must be an exaggeration on how fast the driver was going)
Especially on stock wheels and suspension
Hell I nearly spun out doing 50 merging onto the highway through a sharp corner although it was a wet road but that's not the point ,
May this guy rip and another xf bit the dust
If your intoxicated take the dwi ticket , paying a fine and losing your license for a few months is better then losing your life
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackerman
3. The police had no reason to pursue unless when u turned he did so erratically
Which neither article says the driver did
Anytime they see you avoiding a check point.. they are going to find out why you did.. erractic or grandma style.. they are coming after you.

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If your intoxicated take the dwi ticket , paying a fine and losing your license for a few months is better then losing your life
This is sound advice.. the old saying - don't do the crime if you can't do the time..
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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Why would you say such nonsense in a crossfire forum?

Because it's not nonsense.

Fact is the crossfires were designed for the autobahn just like the SLK. Mechanically it is the same car!

They were designed by the british for American roads. Aerodynamically, they're different which matters at 140mph.

As for the back end... that is why there are pop up spoilers just like Audi and Porsche. To help push the rear end down at high speeds.
The NA wing is a fraction the size of a Porshe. Again, designed for American roads.

I'm not knocking the NA. It's a great high-performance car. I drove one for 3 years and thought it compared well with my C4 Vette and certainly wouldn't mind owning another one.
 
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