Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
I'm not exactly sure what to call it but the back of the ceiling fabric came off and it hanging down like a cow's tongue. I recall reading about replacing the whole thing but has anyone experienced something like this? Any thoughts on what kind of glue would be best for fixing this minor issue? See below for a photo of it. Thanks a lot folks.
Re: Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
I'm not exactly sure what to call it but the back of the ceiling fabric came off and it hanging down like a cow's tongue. I recall reading about replacing the whole thing but has anyone experienced something like this? Any thoughts on what kind of glue would be best for fixing this minor issue? See below for a photo of it. Thanks a lot folks.
EDIT
The double sided tape failed in the heat, thumb tacks work on the vertical surface and as the whole thing is now falling self tapping screws work well on the horizontal face.
Last edited by onehundred80; 07-23-2018 at 04:51 PM.
Re: Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
Thanks a lot for the responses. Ok, so it is called a headliner.... how did I miss that? :-)
So, the consensus is that no one has succeeded gluing it back on because of the deteriorated foam on the fabric. 180's temp solution definitely is temporary... I thought about using a clear sealant used for roof repair. It goes on like a gel so it will have the bulk (unlike a glue spray) and it has the power to hold things but I just don't know what it will be like longer term. For those of you who have resorted to an upholsterer, did he/she replace the headliner or reused it?
So, the consensus is that no one has succeeded gluing it back on because of the deteriorated foam on the fabric. 180's temp solution definitely is temporary... I thought about using a clear sealant used for roof repair. It goes on like a gel so it will have the bulk (unlike a glue spray) and it has the power to hold things but I just don't know what it will be like longer term. For those of you who have resorted to an upholsterer, did he/she replace the headliner or reused it?
Re: Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
Thanks a lot for the responses. Ok, so it is called a headliner.... how did I miss that? :-)
So, the consensus is that no one has succeeded gluing it back on because of the deteriorated foam on the fabric. 180's temp solution definitely is temporary... I thought about using a clear sealant used for roof repair. It goes on like a gel so it will have the bulk (unlike a glue spray) and it has the power to hold things but I just don't know what it will be like longer term. For those of you who have resorted to an upholsterer, did he/she replace the headliner or reused it?
So, the consensus is that no one has succeeded gluing it back on because of the deteriorated foam on the fabric. 180's temp solution definitely is temporary... I thought about using a clear sealant used for roof repair. It goes on like a gel so it will have the bulk (unlike a glue spray) and it has the power to hold things but I just don't know what it will be like longer term. For those of you who have resorted to an upholsterer, did he/she replace the headliner or reused it?
The new material is pretty cheap to buy.
Re: Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
Thanks a lot for the responses. Ok, so it is called a headliner.... how did I miss that? :-)
So, the consensus is that no one has succeeded gluing it back on because of the deteriorated foam on the fabric. 180's temp solution definitely is temporary... I thought about using a clear sealant used for roof repair. It goes on like a gel so it will have the bulk (unlike a glue spray) and it has the power to hold things but I just don't know what it will be like longer term. For those of you who have resorted to an upholsterer, did he/she replace the headliner or reused it?
So, the consensus is that no one has succeeded gluing it back on because of the deteriorated foam on the fabric. 180's temp solution definitely is temporary... I thought about using a clear sealant used for roof repair. It goes on like a gel so it will have the bulk (unlike a glue spray) and it has the power to hold things but I just don't know what it will be like longer term. For those of you who have resorted to an upholsterer, did he/she replace the headliner or reused it?
I also took Waldig's advice and applied some sound deadening material to the bare roof before we installed the new headliner. Remarkable difference in cockpit noise. Here's a link to his video post about this. CLICK
Last edited by dedwards0323; 06-08-2018 at 04:53 PM.
Re: Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
The upholstery shop I use locally does excellent work and re-covered my headliner with a material & color that closely matched the OEM material. Wife & I pulled the headliner out ourselves (lots of great DIY advice on how to do that step) and cost me $130 to have the headliner cleaned/stripped of all old glue residue and the new material applied. Shop made sure that the new material "wrapped" around the mating edges of the headliner to help hold it in place and keep it secure when installed. OEM headliner barely covers the headliner board to the edges and that also contributes to a sagging headliner besides a poor glue job.
I also took Waldig's advice and applied some sound deadening material to the bare roof before we installed the new headliner. Remarkable difference in cockpit noise. Here's a link to his video post about this. CLICK
I also took Waldig's advice and applied some sound deadening material to the bare roof before we installed the new headliner. Remarkable difference in cockpit noise. Here's a link to his video post about this. CLICK
I currently have all the trunk panels out and the noise is noticeably louder, maybe I can do something back there as well.
Re: Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
Here's a link to a more detailed photo instruction on how Waldig replaced his headliner.
What I haven't seen yet is how he got the entire headliner unit off the ceiling. Anyone know how? Just pull hard? Anything that might break?
https://www.crossfireforum.org/g/album/5832983
What I haven't seen yet is how he got the entire headliner unit off the ceiling. Anyone know how? Just pull hard? Anything that might break?
https://www.crossfireforum.org/g/album/5832983
Re: Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
I’ll add the link here. CLICK
Last edited by onehundred80; 06-12-2018 at 12:02 PM.
Re: Cabin ceiling cover/fabric falling apart
Wife & I removed the headliner when I had it recovered last year. GraphiteGhost's write-up was excellent in providing more detail than the Service Manual. The only thing we did different than his write-up was we only pulled the rear trim panels down from the top and left them hanging from the bottom pins. (Note: That is per the Service Manual.) That provided enough of a gap where I could see the 2 pins holding the headliner rear to the roof and using a trim removal tool, pulled those pins out. We were able to slide the headliner out of those trims panels when we worked it down, forward & out of the PS door opening. And like his write-up, going back was a piece of cake! We only had to replace a damaged pin in one of the rear interior trim panels.
And I would add that removing the A-pillar trim panels requires some significant force. Those are really stuck to the structure. Almost scary how hard I had to pull to get them loose.
And I would add that removing the A-pillar trim panels requires some significant force. Those are really stuck to the structure. Almost scary how hard I had to pull to get them loose.
Last edited by dedwards0323; 06-13-2018 at 08:19 AM.
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