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Old 07-12-2019, 08:24 AM
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which 1 you use?
shopping for oil i have found big differences in price.
for instance: pennzoil ultra platinum synthetic 5 l: $32 cdn;
mobil 1 extended performance synthetic 4.7 l: $64 cdn (am in canada).
why such a large difference? what can you tell? is mobil higher quality so it justifies the double cost?
is there any evidence that proves technically that mobil is so much good?
tests?
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:25 AM
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Hey Phil,
Mobil 1 Synthetic 0-40 European Formula.
Can't remember the exact price but Walmart is a good source, reasonable price (mid $30 range).
Canadian Tire also sells it, regular price is around $55 for a jug but often goes on sale in the $30 range.
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Old 07-12-2019, 06:48 PM
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what i found at walmart is this:
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/mobil-1.../6000198839526

but that is still way higher than from canadian tire!
 
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Old 07-12-2019, 06:57 PM
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I don't buy oil or gasonline based on price. I haven't since I was 17 and driving a 240,000 mile Dodge pickup.

I go here:
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html

Now, the only oil I could find locally was 0W40 (too hot in Texas for that) and 5W40.
So I went with 5W40.

I won't use 0W40, it's just too thin - and MB now recommends 5W40, they APPROVE of 0W40 but they RECOMMEND 5W40.
 
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Old 07-12-2019, 07:40 PM
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found these tests: Synthetic motor oils testing results - North American Motoring
that is scientific evidence. just was i was asking for.
tells me how each 1 does.
as in the example i posted, where mobil is twice as much as pennzoil
but pennzoil does better in the test. that is what i need.
but if any has links to more tests will be great.
 
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Old 07-13-2019, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy View Post
I don't buy oil or gasonline based on price. I haven't since I was 17 and driving a 240,000 mile Dodge pickup.

I go here:
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html

Now, the only oil I could find locally was 0W40 (too hot in Texas for that) and 5W40.
So I went with 5W40.

I won't use 0W40, it's just too thin - and MB now recommends 5W40, they APPROVE of 0W40 but they RECOMMEND 5W40.
Mark, do you use Formula M?
 
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez View Post
which 1 you use?
shopping for oil i have found big differences in price.
for instance: pennzoil ultra platinum synthetic 5 l: $32 cdn;
mobil 1 extended performance synthetic 4.7 l: $64 cdn (am in canada).
why such a large difference? what can you tell? is mobil higher quality so it justifies the double cost?
is there any evidence that proves technically that mobil is so much good?
tests?
thanks
I use the Mobil 1 ECF (European Car Formula) 0w-40 in my Crossfire. If I were to switch to the Pennzoil product line, I would use the Pennzoil Platinum Euro Full Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil.

What I am considering with the next oil change is using a couple of quarts of Amazon Basics 0w-40 European Formula Full Synthetic motor oil. Reports show it to be an equal to the Mobil 1 brand in lube tests. It is manufactured in Omaha, Nebraska by Warren Distribution, which is a producer of many lube products for both public & private labels.
 

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Originally Posted by phil alvirez View Post
what i found at walmart is this:
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/mobil-1.../6000198839526

but that is still way higher than from canadian tire!
In-store price is much less than on-line, at least locally.
 
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:32 PM
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the prices shown are in store:
pennzoil ultra platinum synthetic 5 l: $32 cdn;
mobil 1 extended performance synthetic 4.7 l: $64 cdn
hence my doubt.
 
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:40 PM
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Mark, do you use Formula M?
NO. The last few changes I used Castrol EDGE Syntec 5W40. It's the only 5W40 on the 229.3 list I could find locally.
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 01:26 AM
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NO. The last few changes I used Castrol EDGE Syntec 5W40. It's the only 5W40 on the 229.3 list I could find locally.
Thanks. Iíve always thought 0w40 was light for my location but have been reluctant to switch. Now you give me food for thought.
 
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I see that Walmart has 5-quart bottles of Mobil 1 0W-40 on sale for $19.99.
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:38 PM
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just got my 2005 coupe ltd on 4th of july. the dealer said changed oil 50 km ago and is semi-synthetic but i rather want to use full synt (and fleece filter)
i want to use pennzoil. locally i can get pennzoil plat euro 5w20, 5w30, or 0w20. or plat ultra in 0w20, 5w20, or 5w30.
which 1 you guys think fits better? why? or do i wait until the plat ultra 0w40 is available?
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:47 PM
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from post #12:

"I see that Walmart has 5-quart bottles of Mobil 1 0W-40 on sale for $19.99."



not in this ranch. still much more
 

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Old 07-14-2019, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez View Post
just got my 2005 coupe ltd on 4th of july. the dealer said changed oil 50 km ago and is semi-synthetic but i rather want to use full synt (and fleece filter)
i want to use pennzoil. locally i can get pennzoil plat euro 5w20, 5w30, or 0w20. or plat ultra in 0w20, 5w20, or 5w30.
which 1 you guys think fits better? why? or do i wait until the plat ultra 0w40 is available?
thanks
Click this:
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html

Looks to me like you are looking at oils that are all thinner than MB approves of, other than the 5W30.
I'd stick with 5W40 or, since you live way up north, 0W40.

You should be able to order it thru thelubricantstore.com - I THINK they sthip to Canada.
But c'mon, there must be plenty of MB products on the road up there, I'd think you can find the stuff you need SOMEWHERE locally.
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy View Post
I don't buy oil or gasonline based on price. I haven't since I was 17 and driving a 240,000 mile Dodge pickup.

I go here:
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html

Now, the only oil I could find locally was 0W40 (too hot in Texas for that) and 5W40.
So I went with 5W40.

I won't use 0W40, it's just too thin - and MB now recommends 5W40, they APPROVE of 0W40 but they RECOMMEND 5W40.
NOW that I've run around half of Birmingham finding 0W40... NOW you say 5W40!!! Well guess what? It's getting 0W40 this time! For reelz though, thanks for the list. It really opens up the possibilities.
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 11:56 PM
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Thanks. I’ve always thought 0w40 was light for my location but have been reluctant to switch. Now you give me food for thought.
I should tell you that I ran Mobile 1 5W50 for a LONG time in the Graphite, it was a high miles daily driver. I did two oil changes a year. Used 5W50 for the April change and 5W40 for the fall change - due to the fact that north Georgia got down to 25-30F at night a LOT.

Monitoring oil pressures, I eventually gave up on the 5W50 when I got the SE, it is driven to little, I do annual changes and 5W50 in temperatures below about 60F resulted it just too high of oil pressure at cold start. z

I've leaned towards thicker oils since I was a teen ager. Ran 15W50 and 20W50 for years in my GMC truck that called for 5W20 - that engine and truck are on the road today, March of 2013 or 14, on my birthday, the guy sent a a picture of the odometer - 408,000 miles. But with the Crossfires, I won't put ANYthing in there that is not on the 229.3 list.
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 11:59 PM
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NOW that I've run around half of Birmingham finding 0W40... NOW you say 5W40!!! Well guess what? It's getting 0W40 this time! For reelz though, thanks for the list. It really opens up the possibilities.
I like to tell people that "0W40 is approved, but the current MB recommendation is for 5W40". Too thin for me, but fact is, MANY of our cars are well above 100,000 miles and a few are past 200,000 and I know most are running one brand or other of 0W40. Even I admit that.
 
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:15 AM
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about post #15:
thank you for the data. the list approved by MB shows 1 that is available in this ranch (5W30), that is the 1 you suggest, so this is the solution.
thanks again.

boy, even if chrysler did a great job sabotaging this wonderfful car, on the other hand we have this fantastic group that is bringing a terrific help to the owners.
 
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Old 07-15-2019, 05:39 PM
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following pizzaguy advice and the results of the test https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...g-results.html i got the pennzoil 5W30 at cdn$40 for 5 lt (purchased 2) and the mercedes filter adviced here too.
the filter and oil in the car seemed dark, so i dont think what the dealer said that oil had been changed just 50km before is true. at least now am sure what is in there.
 

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