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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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I unfortunately rearended an SUV who does no know how to speed up to merge and stopped while I "goed". While the speed was slow, 5-10mph, the damage seems larger than I would have expected. It is yet to be assessed, but interested in thoughts of repair.
Hood, right fender, headlights,
Does anyone have any experience on what might happen here?
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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Headlights are very expensive and hard to find. I'm surprised someone hasn't started manufacturing replacements.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Please change title of this thread to,

"How to make a black XF look better!"

(sorry your baby got bruised!) (really!)
 
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ZERACER
Headlights are very expensive and hard to find. I'm surprised someone hasn't started manufacturing replacements.
Someone has the molds, but to start making them would take too much money unless you had enough guaranteed sales to justify the outlay. There are a lot of parts involved and they are not simple parts. I doubt they could be made for less than $500 to $600 a piece in a short run of a thousand pairs with a decent return on investment.

The cheap repair of the ruined front lens would be a new lens that is cemented to the trimmed edge of the existing lens after the existing front front panel has been cut off carefully. This would rely on the rear assembly being OK in its entirety.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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check out our supplier mrmopar
he seems to be up and very knowledgeable about parts.
sorry about your xfire
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by deltacrossfirebob
check out our supplier mrmopar
he seems to be up and very knowledgeable about parts.
sorry about your xfire
bob
"Dibs on the rear diffusers!".. Just kidding.. +1 on Mrmopar.. just bought 4 wheel speed sensors for 60 bucks..used but working.. and "retail" at least 65 each.
Keep him in mind for when it's being repaired. I'd rather have a used fender or headlight than wait 3 months for one to be delivered if it's an option to go that route.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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[quote=tighed1]Please change title of this thread to,

"How to make a black XF look better than any other color! (I'm just sayin)

 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Repairability Thoughts

In the event it is written off, does anyone know what the buy back value might be?

Looking at replacements seems to me that the values have gone up from some years back, or is that just me?

I never knew how much I loved my ride till it is not in its spot.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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THAT'S a 10mph impact!??! Wow. Did the SUV have a steel bumper?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TomStratRT
THAT'S a 10mph impact!??! Wow. Did the SUV have a steel bumper?
10-15MPH speed, yes, no air bad deploy, no injuries.

For reference:
Repairs were asssesed @ 11k and declared a total loss so I will be looking for another vehicle. Assesed value is $15.5k.

I was thinking that I could do this @ home but getting parts...

Anyone want a 2005 74k convertable with some front end damage
$4k in SJC (San Jose). I have 48 hours.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Looked highly repairable from the pictures.. If I were in your shoes I'd be getting a hold of Mrmopar asap
to see what he's got and get some pricing and go from there. I could still perma-grin with a rebuilt title.. and 5 grand or more in my pocket.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Looked highly repairable from the pictures.. If I were in your shoes I'd be getting a hold of Mrmopar asap
to see what he's got and get some pricing and go from there. I could still perma-grin with a rebuilt title.. and 5 grand or more in my pocket.
Thanks, I am checking. Does seem headlights are not easy, but then I guess I could build a custom set. Need a hood and right front guard and a radiator/condensor/overflow tank.

Else, I have a full 2006 3 volumn service manual, oil filters and CPS (new in bag). Will post in for sale when finalized.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SETTER
Thanks, I am checking. Does seem headlights are not easy, but then I guess I could build a custom set. Need a hood and right front guard and a radiator/condensor/overflow tank.

Else, I have a full 2006 3 volumn service manual, oil filters and CPS (new in bag). Will post in for sale when finalized.
If there's no frame damage, which I don't see how there could be with totally missing the bumper.. I can't see where 3 grand at the most wouldn't put her back together. Unless you order new from Germany..lol. There are some nice carbon fiber hoods with vents I think still available in the sale section. They run a grand I do believe..he kinda got stiffed on a group buy.
If I wasn't doing Turbo in the next month I'd have to definatly give that 4 grand offer a long hard look..
 
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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Ran across the link so thought I would drop it off right quick..

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post652505
 
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
If there's no frame damage, which I don't see how there could be with totally missing the bumper.. I can't see where 3 grand at the most wouldn't put her back together. Unless you order new from Germany..lol. There are some nice carbon fiber hoods with vents I think still available in the sale section. They run a grand I do believe..he kinda got stiffed on a group buy.
If I wasn't doing Turbo in the next month I'd have to definatly give that 4 grand offer a long hard look..
MrMiata, I am not trying to break your *****, but you looking at a few pictures versus an experienced insurance adjuster, who does this for a living You can buy these types of cars for peanuts all day long, because they have a salvaged title, hence resale would be even worse than an XF normally is. This is exactly what MrMopar is doing, buying cheap, salvaged cars with as little damage as possible, but he is not fixing them because of the titling issues. It is easy to say that it would not be a big deal and would be a lot less than they quote, but when you factor in shitty resale, HUNTING to find certain parts (if you can get them at all), and the literally hundreds of hours would have in the reapir, it starts looking a lot more like reality setting in...
 
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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ask your ins co how much they would pay without totaling the car if you get above 8000. you might want to take that and have a shop repair the car,,, i did this with a truck,, that i rebuilt the motor ,,they totaled it ,,i as that question,, got 6000 repaired the truck for 4000 and put 2000. in my pocket ,, if you buy it back it will have a rebuild title and you may not be able to get col and comp ins. jim
 
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
MrMiata, I am not trying to break your *****, but you looking at a few pictures versus an experienced insurance adjuster, who does this for a living You can buy these types of cars for peanuts all day long, because they have a salvaged title, hence resale would be even worse than an XF normally is. This is exactly what MrMopar is doing, buying cheap, salvaged cars with as little damage as possible, but he is not fixing them because of the titling issues. It is easy to say that it would not be a big deal and would be a lot less than they quote, but when you factor in shitty resale, HUNTING to find certain parts (if you can get them at all), and the literally hundreds of hours would have in the reapir, it starts looking a lot more like reality setting in...
Hence the different strokes for different folks. Resale doesn't fall into my concern catagory. 91 Miata taken off the showroom floor and still can use as my daily driver should I desire. My crossfire will be around a long time unless she's wiped out beyond recognition. Then their is my mom.. new Camary every 2-3 years. Now since a "qualified" insurance adjuster is looking at new - not used.. I'd say the prices would take a big jump wouldn't you?
 
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Now since a "qualified" insurance adjuster is looking at new - not used.. I'd say the prices would take a big jump wouldn't you?
Many adjusters and body shops DO look at used, LKQ for example, is one of the largest suppliers to my friends mostly insurance body shop. These people are in the business, they would not look at a $1300 headlight new and then turn down a $300 perfect condition 'take off'. All depends on your policy, but a majority of these parts being put on wrecked cars come from wrecked cars, another reason to get a new XF.

All I am saying is its easy to say, and a lot less easy to do, a full repair on your own. I have had two of these damn near completely apart and the paint alone is a pain in the *** to match perfectly, much less dial all the gaps in perfectly for the body. Body work is NOT easy and a reapir like this is not for the faint of heart. I remember one guy here waiting nearly a year for ONE part, and his car just SAT the entire time. Or you run into a very small frame bend, not detected at first that causes insane tire wear or a horrible ride, no camber adjustment in the suspension, big problems quick but you dont know until you put miles on it...

It is a BIG job for anyone to take on, fixing a totalled car. Hundreds, if not thousands of variable can incrase cost or derail a project like this very easily.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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Check out Coparts.com. They have several wrecked Crossfires for sale with no frontend damage. Of course those cars would have salvage titles, but if you are stripping the donor car it doesn't matter. Just keep it in your barn in Gilroy for future part needs.

If insurance company pays you off and leaves you with car to fix, there should not be a salvage title on the car. You would retain your original title.
 
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