Replaced my stock non working IC pump. With Meziere's universal water pump. http://www.meziere.com/ps-892-860-wp136s.aspx

Installed it last weekend and so far everything is working great. My temp. guage stays a full needle below the middle mark. It dosent look so good with all the hoses pieced back together but it dosent leak so im good for now. Im trying to find a hose that might fit at the local auto store. A few picks are in my gallery.

 

I just installed the same exact one last week. This pump draws more amperage so I wired it up with 14 AWG wires direct to the junction with a relay controlled by the original wires so it operates like stock. I have also relocated my battery to the trunk and mounted this in the battery compartment.

http://www.shop.speedunlimited.com/S...id/0/SFV/32401

This mod works out well because it moves some weight over the rear wheels, and isolates the reservoir from the engine heat.

 

Nice job both of you. A full tick below mid level is vary impressive. How hot is it in TX? Mine will hit the mid needle after10 mins. Which is normal, but anything below that is impressive.

 

Hello Eleventeen,

have you installed a reservoir where normally the battery is? Do you run the hot IC line in this tank and the outlet of the tank to the IC-Pump? Any problems with flow/ bleeding Air pockets? Have you logged IATs before / after?

Thanks.

 

Yes, it is already installed (check out the link for the exact tank I used); the battery is now in the trunk.

Yes, hot water returns to the tank. The configuration I have is: Tank --> H.E. --> pump --> intercooler core --> back to tank. I think some people are sending the hot water through the H.E. to be cooled before returning to the tank. They pull the already cooled water from the tank and route it directly to the intercooler core like this: Tank --> pump --> intercooler core --> H.E. --> back to tank. I'm not sure which works better or if it makes a difference, but I may try doing it this way if others find it works better.

It's hard to tell exactly how much it helps for peak IAT's since the last time I logged (before the mod) was in 90*F weather. After the tank mod I checked, but the outside air temps were in the 60's and 70's. It definitely cools off MUCH quicker. The intercooler core is not getting as heat soaked now. The IAT's still spike to around 150*F under hard acceleration, but then immediately drop down around 100* or less within about 15 seconds after letting off of the throttle. They usually hang about 30* over ambient during normal driving. I really believe the IAT's are still spiking due to my intercooler being coated with oil from the PCV system. There is oil all over the inside of the intake tract (and now water due to my leaky intake core). The new Code3/Spearco intercooler core should take care of both of these issues. Hopefully then, I won't see the temperature spikes under hard acceleration.

*Also note that I originally installed the tank using the Bosch pump. I haven't checked the IAT's in the week or so that I've had the Meziere pump installed.*

 

Thanks very much for your information !! Maybe I will also get an additional reservoir. First I will separate the IC-Cirquit and then log my IATs.

 

Hello Eleventeen,

would it be possible to upload a liitle picture how the Moroso-Tank fits in the battery location and how you routed the hoses to the fittings ?

Is it difficult to relocate the battery in the trunk?

Thank you very much for your help!!

Kind Regards from Germany

 

I've really got to see your set-up sometime... I've thought of doing this exact same thing. However, I don't know if I'd want to relo the battery to the trunk - where did you place it, and how is it secured?

I've been thinking a smaller tank w/ a braille auto battery both taking up the space where the massive MB battery sits might be the ticket - similar to what C3P proposed awhile back, but never (to my knowledge) offered.

 

i was searching around and couldnt find which is a better pump to have: the Meziere IC pump or the CM30? Does one pump more than the other? Is one an easier install on the C32?

 

I would love to relocate the battery as I have done on other driven cars, but I need a good box because a battery in the cockpit without a divider wall makes me a bit woozy. I have had terrible luck with big batteries like the lithum cells on my planes bursting into flames.

Do you have a box that is better than the average Walmart boat battery container. It must be bolted down, closed and provisions for venting the hydrogen to be safe, cause its mounted behind the gas tank..............read rear end ( I cant control it ) collision.

Safety first, Woody

 

Mine is in the spare tire well in the trunk of my C32, so it is pretty much isolated from the passenger compartment (not up to NHRA code, however). I just used a battery tray and hold down kit to secure it and did not use a battery box, as I have an Optima which is a completely sealed gel cell battery and shouldn't need to be vented (according to several sources). You can even mount it upside down (or drive upside down if you're in outter space or something). Now, I know you track your car Woody, and your trunk space and passenger compartment are pretty much one in the same on the Crossfire, so I would recommend the Moroso battery box. I was looking at this and it seems to be a very good piece. JEG's also makes their own knock-off which also looks good and is a bit cheaper.

Moroso Box:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Moroso/710/74050/10002/-1

Jegs Box:
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/10230/10002/-1

More boxes:
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...rm=battery+box

 

Johnson flows 6.9 gpm and is pretty much a direct fit. Meziere flows 20 gpm and will need a custom bracket and hose routing. Johnson is probably good for most applications, but I went a little nuts.

B.T.W. you can hear this thing running from inside the car.

 

Well at least you KNOW its running! I think this is the same pump that BrianBrave was/is looking to use on his next pump replacement. I have a CM30 to wear out before I think about this one. I really like the flow level on this one. The quick recovery of temps you are getting is great. I separated my IC system but am still using the OE resorvoir tank. Maybe an upgrade next spring.

MikeR

 

You mentioned that the spike in IAT is in your mind due to possible oil on the I/C. Short of pulling it (NOW) do you have an idea of what we could fog or spray into the inlet while running to help rinse that too. I have become so involved with that issue that Iam assisting the development of a low restriction separator canister to address this issue, Thanks.
W DY

 

I thought of possibly spraying something in there before, but then realized it probably wouldn't work well (or even be a good idea due to it having to go through the supercharger). Some old-school carb cleaner is what initially came to mind. If the intercooler is off, then I imagine some engine degreaser or maybe even Simple Green would work. Unfortunately, I will not be trying any of this as my intercooler is leaking (not sure if it has anything to do with this badass pump or not ). I have put my name on the list for one of the first Code3/Spearco intercooler cores.

Honestly, if your car has some miles on it, I would highly recommend removing and cleaning the intercooler core, after seeing how much oil is inside my intake manifolds. My car has a little over 65,000 miles B.T.W.

God speed on the oil separator mod. I will be doing this upon installation of the new core. I was thinking of using something like this:

Back to Jegs ...

http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/760016/10002/-1

 

Hey MikeR,

Can you elaborate here? I thought separating the IC circuit required some type of separate tank... if you're still tied in to the OE tank, how is the system separated? Sorry if I'm being dense... just can't picture it I guess. Thanks!

 

I have a Mezier 28oz surge tank mounted on the fan housing for the radiator overfolow. Here is the link that shows it.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ad.php?t=27570


MikeR

 

Thanks for the link! Very nice set-up; I simply misunderstood your earlier post in this thread.