What Else Do You Want?
Again I own a performance/fabrication shop and have a customer with an 05 srt and has fallen a little short on finding an aftermarket parts supplier for the crossfire. I am posting a question/pole to you the owner, on what aftermarket performance parts you would like to see developed. Both in terms of increasing your power as well as traction/handling upgrades. I believe in reasonably priced, quality components everyone can enjoy, not just the above average wealthy people, which seems to dominate this market with very high priced stall converters, cold air intakes, coil over kits, etc.
If there are any parts you would like to see come market please post your ideas!!
I would be interested in:
- Poly bushing kits
- Complete remote mount turbo systems including ecu upgrades as a bolt on for you non-amg owners
- gear swaps
-one peice driveshafts
-coil over systems - direct replacment
- sway bars, adj. control arms, camber kits etc.
Let me know what your thoughs are!!!!
If there are any parts you would like to see come market please post your ideas!!
I would be interested in:
- Poly bushing kits
- Complete remote mount turbo systems including ecu upgrades as a bolt on for you non-amg owners
- gear swaps
-one peice driveshafts
-coil over systems - direct replacment
- sway bars, adj. control arms, camber kits etc.
Let me know what your thoughs are!!!!
Last edited by Trbokmro; Feb 3, 2009 at 06:41 PM.
Welcom to the forum. I appreciate your interest in our cars, but without testimonials or references I would be hesitant to buy. What is the name of your shop and do you have any customers/cars that verify your work? I agree we are overcharged for our performance parts and I would love a cost effective alternative, but I'm sure everyone would like to see some concrete results and reliabilty testing first. Just my 2cents.
Driveshaft is my main concern right now.
Driveshaft is my main concern right now.
Last edited by SRTpowa; Feb 3, 2009 at 07:42 PM.
I'm thinking since the stall converter is a go, maybe keep on going with that theme. Carbon fiber drive shaft, different gears, a beefed up diff. Also like mentioned above, since we don't know your work (no offense) , having someone who can vouch for your parts would be helpful. I thank you for your interest and enthusiasm to help our community, but I have to see some more info about your company and too see your parts installed and proven on these particular cars. This car seems to be a lil finicky and sometimes it seems nothing comes as easy as in other cars. I hope you really are as committed to furthering our aftermarket with quality pieces that work. I will definitely be looking to see how your first product performs.
Last edited by BlUEMDsrt6; Feb 4, 2009 at 05:21 AM.
A turbo kit for the srt-6.
A bigger supercharger kit for the srt-6.
A programable piggy back or stand alone ECU like Brainbrave suggested, so i can tune my own ECU.
Good luck.
A bigger supercharger kit for the srt-6.
A programable piggy back or stand alone ECU like Brainbrave suggested, so i can tune my own ECU.
Good luck.
Thanks so far for the input, I can start chasing down some options.
As far as tuners, I can program MB and most european ecu's with 2 diffrent suppliers so possibilities are very good, but I will look into if the tuning software is coded and avalible for public use yet... I am currently still helping get the gm version off its feet. So tune yourself might be a little while.
As far as my credability and references, other than being in near a dozen magazine articles (diesel power, hotrod magazine, and car craft) owning a dyno/fab shop for 8 years and being crew chief and tuner for project x two years in a row on drag week, I haven't made any parts yet for the crossfire only dealing with the high priced stuff you are offered now, that is why I am asking what parts you the owners would like to see!
I also have 3 websites and an ebay store,
www.illinoisdynocenter.com
www.illinoisdynocenter.net
www.illinoisdynocenter.biz
as you can see i dont just change oil on your fathers cavalier for a living.
As far as tuners, I can program MB and most european ecu's with 2 diffrent suppliers so possibilities are very good, but I will look into if the tuning software is coded and avalible for public use yet... I am currently still helping get the gm version off its feet. So tune yourself might be a little while.
As far as my credability and references, other than being in near a dozen magazine articles (diesel power, hotrod magazine, and car craft) owning a dyno/fab shop for 8 years and being crew chief and tuner for project x two years in a row on drag week, I haven't made any parts yet for the crossfire only dealing with the high priced stuff you are offered now, that is why I am asking what parts you the owners would like to see!
I also have 3 websites and an ebay store,
www.illinoisdynocenter.com
www.illinoisdynocenter.net
www.illinoisdynocenter.biz
as you can see i dont just change oil on your fathers cavalier for a living.
And as far as driveshafts go I would not be building them myself, I would be the one ponying up over 2000 bucks for and engineer to spec the shaft and have the tooling set up to begin production on both alum. and fiber options.
As for all the parts I am looking at supplying I will build the prototye/supply specs and have my suppliers/manufacturers in the american car market mass produce the parts, that is why I want to know demand before I spend alot of time and money to sell only 2 of say the driveshafts or whatever.... not worth my time loosing money.
As for all the parts I am looking at supplying I will build the prototye/supply specs and have my suppliers/manufacturers in the american car market mass produce the parts, that is why I want to know demand before I spend alot of time and money to sell only 2 of say the driveshafts or whatever.... not worth my time loosing money.
Originally Posted by Trbokmro
And as far as driveshafts go I would not be building them myself, I would be the one ponying up over 2000 bucks for and engineer to spec the shaft and have the tooling set up to begin production on both alum. and fiber options.
As for all the parts I am looking at supplying I will build the prototye/supply specs and have my suppliers/manufacturers in the american car market mass produce the parts, that is why I want to know demand before I spend alot of time and money to sell only 2 of say the driveshafts or whatever.... not worth my time loosing money.
As for all the parts I am looking at supplying I will build the prototye/supply specs and have my suppliers/manufacturers in the american car market mass produce the parts, that is why I want to know demand before I spend alot of time and money to sell only 2 of say the driveshafts or whatever.... not worth my time loosing money.
yes i'm aware i am one of the largest vw repair/perfromance installers/part sellers in the us and also have work on countless lexus, mb, bmw, jaguar etc. thanks for your concern.
j-fire is not scared and has ordered one which i will be installing next week per his schedule, i'm sure he will be posting results. as far as the test vehicles the owners dont want ther info released due to the hundreds of phone calls they will most likely be getting.
P.S. I am working with aem on there standalone ecu also and most likley will just try to get j-fire to test most of my new products since he is a member.
j-fire is not scared and has ordered one which i will be installing next week per his schedule, i'm sure he will be posting results. as far as the test vehicles the owners dont want ther info released due to the hundreds of phone calls they will most likely be getting.
P.S. I am working with aem on there standalone ecu also and most likley will just try to get j-fire to test most of my new products since he is a member.
Adding to Blues comment is more about numbers. There are probably 50 of the SRT6 owners that actually have been to the track. Then 10 out of those 50 that are serious about drag racing. I being the only one who runs in the Summit NHRA ET series and bracket races every weekend have no interest in either a stall or driveshaft. Neither will make the car anymore consistent or reliable, as these cars are very hard to dial already.
The stall may, hasn't been proven yet, improve 60' times which is an advantage. It's not adding anymore power, just allowing more power to the ground at launch. Now this is assuming that 1) drag slicks are used 2) someone can drive good enough to master it on any track surface. 3) Once mastered and let's assume successful, will the axles hold up? Or create a new problem.
This is one of the reasons the supercharger is clutch driven so the power comes in gradually. Otherwise it would be like a mustang cobra that spins for 2 gears and renders useless without a straight axle and slicks.
Now why lower 60's are a disadvantage bracket racing. All hardcore bracket cars are set up with high stall, low gears for killer 60's. They come out of the hole hard and by the 1/8 or 1000' mark pretty much fender race from their on.
I'll give a real world example. I ran a 12.08 to another bracket setup race cars 12.08. Heads up. Immediately off the line he had 1 car and by the 1/8 had 2 cars, then my car wakes up and the bracket car with low gearing dies, and I catch and pass him at the finish. Just on reaction time differences.
I have won many races because the other car lets off and thinks they are easily winning. Not knowing if I had a bad light or the car lengths they pull from the start. They have no clue my car launches soft and charges like a 10 second car at the top.
If I had a higher stall, sure I would have the starting line advantage or equal advantage, but I lose my top end. The car will be in the middle of 4th gear at the stripe instead of just changing into 4th where the power is not as strong.
The best mod would be to change gearing in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to make it a true 3 speed in the 1/4, 4th and 5th would be for gas saving purposes only.
My Chevy II has a TCI 3500rpm 9" stall for street/strip fun.
The stall may, hasn't been proven yet, improve 60' times which is an advantage. It's not adding anymore power, just allowing more power to the ground at launch. Now this is assuming that 1) drag slicks are used 2) someone can drive good enough to master it on any track surface. 3) Once mastered and let's assume successful, will the axles hold up? Or create a new problem.
This is one of the reasons the supercharger is clutch driven so the power comes in gradually. Otherwise it would be like a mustang cobra that spins for 2 gears and renders useless without a straight axle and slicks.
Now why lower 60's are a disadvantage bracket racing. All hardcore bracket cars are set up with high stall, low gears for killer 60's. They come out of the hole hard and by the 1/8 or 1000' mark pretty much fender race from their on.
I'll give a real world example. I ran a 12.08 to another bracket setup race cars 12.08. Heads up. Immediately off the line he had 1 car and by the 1/8 had 2 cars, then my car wakes up and the bracket car with low gearing dies, and I catch and pass him at the finish. Just on reaction time differences.
I have won many races because the other car lets off and thinks they are easily winning. Not knowing if I had a bad light or the car lengths they pull from the start. They have no clue my car launches soft and charges like a 10 second car at the top.
If I had a higher stall, sure I would have the starting line advantage or equal advantage, but I lose my top end. The car will be in the middle of 4th gear at the stripe instead of just changing into 4th where the power is not as strong.
The best mod would be to change gearing in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to make it a true 3 speed in the 1/4, 4th and 5th would be for gas saving purposes only.
My Chevy II has a TCI 3500rpm 9" stall for street/strip fun.
braket racing is boring i'm glad you want max consistency, i like revenge racing and street racing and always am looking for an edge to win.
i will be working on adding power to the car to help with the lack of top end power, the only thing that makes this car run so well is the gearing in first and second, so hitting a quicker 60' will get quicker 1/4 mile time thus improving your quartermile time. mmm
oh and i own a high 9 low 10 sec(depending on boost setting) street car and at the top the srt leaves much to be desired, you should ride in one sometime maybe give you the itch to go faster not try to run the exact same every lap
i will be working on adding power to the car to help with the lack of top end power, the only thing that makes this car run so well is the gearing in first and second, so hitting a quicker 60' will get quicker 1/4 mile time thus improving your quartermile time. mmm
oh and i own a high 9 low 10 sec(depending on boost setting) street car and at the top the srt leaves much to be desired, you should ride in one sometime maybe give you the itch to go faster not try to run the exact same every lap
Originally Posted by Trbokmro
braket racing is boring i'm glad you want max consistency, i like revenge racing and street racing and always am looking for an edge to win.
i will be working on adding power to the car to help with the lack of top end power, the only thing that makes this car run so well is the gearing in first and second, so hitting a quicker 60' will get quicker 1/4 mile time thus improving your quartermile time. mmm
oh and i own a high 9 low 10 sec(depending on boost setting) street car and at the top the srt leaves much to be desired, you should ride in one sometime maybe give you the itch to go faster not try to run the exact same every lap
i will be working on adding power to the car to help with the lack of top end power, the only thing that makes this car run so well is the gearing in first and second, so hitting a quicker 60' will get quicker 1/4 mile time thus improving your quartermile time. mmm
oh and i own a high 9 low 10 sec(depending on boost setting) street car and at the top the srt leaves much to be desired, you should ride in one sometime maybe give you the itch to go faster not try to run the exact same every lap
I bet your turbo'd 9-10 second car would be better at top end. Aren't turbo'd cars inherintely better at top end anyway (apples and oranges here)? For a factory SC, I would say this car is pretty quick all the way around.
PS Bracket racing is boring IMO too.
yeah kind of apples and oarnges since i have 2 more cyl.s and about 600 more whp without using my best friend N2O hehe but on the other hand if turbo is sized properly the minimal "lag" really does help traction in low gears!
but at least we can both agree braket racing is like masturbation without the payoff lol
but at least we can both agree braket racing is like masturbation without the payoff lol
Originally Posted by BlUEMDsrt6
I bet your turbo'd 9-10 second car would be better at top end. Aren't turbo'd cars inherintely better at top end anyway (apples and oranges here)? For a factory SC, I would say this car is pretty quick all the way around.
PS Bracket racing is boring IMO too.
PS Bracket racing is boring IMO too.




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