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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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now woody and rudy lets work on the ratio for the rearend, jim
 
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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That's good to know but ..... I want to use my SRT axels with the Wavetrac.

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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That is true with most of us.... but we need to make sure our SLK32 friends are working too...
 
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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This also goes for the charger sts 3.5 v6 that is the same rear as our crossfire the wavetrac i am speaking of. the srt 6 axles will have no problem working with the wavetrac it was the 32 that we found a fix for. jim
 
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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Should we post on the LX forums or SRT Connection or 300c forums etc. to let them know what were working on? Some of the 3.5 owners are buying superchargers, turbochargers and even putting in stroker V-6's so why not a Wavetrac too? Let me know if it's ok. I'm a member on most of those forums. (300C owner too)

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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AGAIN if their rears are the same, they should have low cost parts for our cars, TRUE?????

Just asking, woody
 
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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we had a 3.5 charger 2010 in our shop,, i just happen to walk under it and saw the rear ,, having a spare srt6 rear in the trunk of my car that day i took out my measuring tape the same weight ,,the same length the same mounting bolts, the yoke is smaller than ours but it is the same as the limited i don't know the gearing but that rear will fit into our car,, if you want to post that over there tell them to check it out for themselves,, if i am right the the wavetrac should be cheaper fo us because we just found the wavetrac a new and bigger market. jim
 
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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This makes sense, and we need to do investigation to see if the part is really interchangable. Woody
 
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:48 AM
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I agree, there are definately going to be other cars that will be able to use the same carrier... unfortunately, I doubt the exhaustive research is going to get us any better deal. If you look at their price chart (Wavetrac® Differential - Application List), we are already about -$200 for similar apps. If we were still struggling to get enough people to have this made, then it would be worth my time.

For a cross ref example check out this nice chart: http://www.w124performance.com/docs/...ferentials.pdf

It takes a LOT of research to get all the apps for a part... My thought, this rests with the dealer that will be making all the money.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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We have ours in the works and I don't really want to complicate this for us either. I was considering the possibility of having an on the shelf LSD which could only happen if it fit a higher production vehicle. I'm not the one that made this happen so no more from me on the subject.

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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what is the time frame to put down a deposit?

Thanks,
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Krzy, since they havent started anything yet, you should be able to call Devin and get in on it....
 
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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It would be good to see if we have the 185 or 210mm rear. It appears that there are 3.69 or 3.70 gear ratios available in MB for those cases. ! That would be a terrific gear for performance, like 20% better, the na gear set only gets the SRT 6% gain in comparison. Who do we need to ask about this??????????

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/...ferentials.pdf
 
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jim i just want to clarify. you have all the videos listed as a c32. it is the slk32 axle you are experimenting on correct? thanx for all the effort!!
 
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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the axle stub rudy sent me ,,i don't know if it is a c32, slk32 or a 2004 crossfire limited ,,he did say it is the same ,,he needs to let us know. jim
 

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
jim i just want to clarify. you have all the videos listed as a c32. it is the slk32 axle you are experimenting on correct? thanx for all the effort!!
Ahhh, just noticed that. That might be why it appears there is slop in the axle... The C32 uses a wider diff.

Jim, is that a C32 or a SLK32 stub?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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Ahhh, just noticed that. That might be why it appears there is slop in the axle... The C32 uses a wider diff.

Jim, is that a C32 or a SLK32 stub?
if it is a wider diff there will be NO play,,because the axle will have less room to move. when i installed two spring clips on one axle there was no play,, but the axle was very hard to remove. one clip everything worked good but there was play. if it was my rear i would add the two spring clips so it is tight and never plan removing them,, why couldn't you guys just get crossfire axles from a limited they are the same as srt ones ,then there would not be any question>? jim
 
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 06:22 AM
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When I pulled my rear to add the phantomgrip rear, I had NO clips to take on or off. What clips are we talking about here, the rears may not be the same and we dont wanna get crossthreaded on this issue.

Iam getting to work on several projects and one of them is to do the gear ratio concerns corrected. I know that the NA gears can work in the srt housing, but I thought the na axles were bolt on to a flange.

Anyone care to clarify this issue for me?

Thanks Woody
 
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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The SLK32 uses a c-clip to retain the stub shaft. The axles bolt on to the stub axle flange. We can pull our diff without removing the axles from the car. However, to remove the stub shaft, we need to pull the diff cover and remove the c-clips first.

The SRT-6 uses a complete half-shaft which is held in with a tension circlip/snap-ring. So, you guys need to pull the axles to drop the diff. But, the axles can be "popped" out of the diff without removing these clips.

As far as us SLK32 guys changing axles... That is NOT the route I want to take, not to mention the extra cost. If you measure the splined area on the SLK stub axle, I'm sure you will find that all the dimensions (that matter) are the same. The only thing us SLK guys will need to do is find the proper tension circlip/snap-ring to keep the axle in with minimal slop. IMO, the slop will cause unnecessary wear on the inner CV-joint.

If you watch all of Jims videos (thanks BTW!) you will see the difference in clips.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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the C32 and the 2004 crossfire both use the stub shaft---
quote" The SRT-6 uses a complete half-shaft which is held in with a tension circlip/snap-ring. So, you guys need to pull the axles to drop the diff. But, the axles can be "popped" out of the diff without removing these clips.---spring clips that are on the end of the 6 axle

As far as us SLK32 guys changing axles... That is NOT the route I want to take, not to mention the extra cost. If you measure the splined area on the SLK stub axle, I'm sure you will find that all the dimensions (that matter) are the same. ---the splined area is the same but the gap where the clip spring or c clip is different the stub shaft is .130 to find a spring clip to fill this so there would be no slop would be the best ,but it is too strong and the axle would not go in or out I did that in the vidio the grove on the 6 is ,084 , when i put that spring on the axle stub i could not install it into the read even used a mallet. The only thing us SLK guys will need to do is find the proper tension circlip/snap-ring to keep the axle in with minimal slop. IMO, the slop will cause unnecessary wear on the inner CV-joint. I don't think so,,,,but adding two of the spring clips that works there is no slop but you have to use a slide hammer to get the axle stub out of the rear. jim
 
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