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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 06:38 PM
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 08:32 PM
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ready to hit the streets
Well....tell us about it!
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 09:10 PM
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So what are the major benefits on a blown application? I know what an larger TB does on NA cars as as I have one my viper v10. As this is my only blower car are the benefits the same?

Also, thank you NW for your support on this platform, without you this platform would have died years ago.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by philosophico
So what are the major benefits on a blown application? I know what an larger TB does on NA cars as as I have one my viper v10. As this is my only blower car are the benefits the same?

Also, thank you NW for your support on this platform, without you this platform would have died years ago.
Ditto!! Would love to know if there's dyno testing of the new crossover intake manifolds and this new throttle body...
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 03:09 PM
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They have info posted on their site, except what is the mb part number for the 83mm throttle body for those sourcing it themselves?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 06:51 PM
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I didn't see any performance gains listed on the Needswings website. Will the ECU need to be tuned in order for the idle and drivability to remain civil or is this a bolt on affair. That is a huge increase in airflow and with a CAI you should be looking at a serious increase in HP.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2018 | 07:29 PM
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Default Re: Throttle body size increase by almost 26%

Originally Posted by NeedsWings
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The write up on your site says an increase in volume, surely that should be an increase in area?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2018 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Jr
Well....tell us about it!
All positives with no ill effects, we first tried using even larger throttle bodies but that caused drivability issues we were not able to resolve... = no good for a street car. This throttle body is solved and remains happy with the ecu and allows the DCAI to exploit its abilities. i have not dynoed it yet and probably will not as every time we install it we do more to the car than just the throttle body itself as so much needs to come off the car that we always end up porting the s/c runners and such at the same time.

Originally Posted by philosophico
So what are the major benefits on a blown application? I know what an larger TB does on NA cars as as I have one my viper v10. As this is my only blower car are the benefits the same?

Also, thank you NW for your support on this platform, without you this platform would have died years ago.

reduced restriction and ability to feed more air/oxygen, yes, same benefits blown versus naturally aspirated. larger bore means less air friction and thus lower temps as well. all around good-ness.


thank you, and thank you for supporting us! we have more up our sleeves yet


Originally Posted by Da55id
Ditto!! Would love to know if there's dyno testing of the new crossover intake manifolds and this new throttle body...

we installed both onto a customers car here and will have pretty datalog graphs once the roads clear, in progress of another 10" of snow here today


Originally Posted by performanceisland
They have info posted on their site, except what is the mb part number for the 83mm throttle body for those sourcing it themselves?

as has been furnished to anyone who has asked, a2731410325


Originally Posted by paintergman
Will the ECU need to be tuned in order for the idle and drivability to remain civil or is this a bolt on affair. That is a huge increase in airflow and with a CAI you should be looking at a serious increase in HP.

ECU and drivability remains happy


Originally Posted by onehundred80
The write up on your site says an increase in volume, surely that should be an increase in area?

sure, well both, thank you for the correction, i will edit it for you.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2018 | 06:32 PM
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The prices for the TB are all over the place. OEM Mercedes is just over a grand. An eBay seller has a new OEM/OES, whatever that means, for half that price, reman is about $200 and used is slightly less.

Rob what TB's have you been using, new used or remanufactured ? OEM is usually my first choice but $1100 bucks is a good chunk of change. Have you used reman units before ?

I can definately see a TB, CAI, a pulley and tune in my future.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2018 | 06:34 PM
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Wrong thread..
 
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 04:35 PM
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https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...4ef6632cQHKiBf
https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...4ef6632cQHKiBf

I have not purchased yet but here are two options for a new throttle body for only $70-$80.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 08:03 PM
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is that the v8 throttle body or the srt6 one?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 07:29 PM
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Default Re: Throttle body size increase by almost 26%

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is that the v8 throttle body or the srt6 one?


Only thing I am sure of, it is Alibaba. Buyer beware!


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Old Dec 30, 2020 | 02:03 AM
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Default Re: Throttle body size increase by almost 26%

Originally Posted by NeedsWings
All positives with no ill effects, we first tried using even larger throttle bodies but that caused drivability issues we were not able to resolve... = no good for a street car. This throttle body is solved and remains happy with the ecu and allows the DCAI to exploit its abilities. i have not dynoed it yet and probably will not as every time we install it we do more to the car than just the throttle body itself as so much needs to come off the car that we always end up porting the s/c runners and such at the same time.




reduced restriction and ability to feed more air/oxygen, yes, same benefits blown versus naturally aspirated. larger bore means less air friction and thus lower temps as well. all around good-ness.


thank you, and thank you for supporting us! we have more up our sleeves yet





we installed both onto a customers car here and will have pretty datalog graphs once the roads clear, in progress of another 10" of snow here today





as has been furnished to anyone who has asked, a2731410325





ECU and drivability remains happy





sure, well both, thank you for the correction, i will edit it for you.
Hello, I know this is an old thread it am interested in this Throttle body upgrade down the road. Being we usually need to add fuel for mods such as a 178mm pulley with crossover intake manifolds, I assume we may need to add more fuel to adjust for such a huge addition in airflow? such as having a fuel pressure regulator? Thanks again your the man Rob!
 
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hello Chris, this is jim I bought a yoke and back cover, remember the ones you said to me " quote the diff you get with the 327 and wavetrac in it , it will come out of my car and be sent to you" end quote the back cover and yoke cost me $300.00 so you owe me $300.00 being i paid u 1300.00 for the diff,,,you have my address so send it asap.
everyone remember this New gearing in my SRT6 - from 3.07 to 3.27 - Success! start at post 127
 
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