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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Hey guys! New to the site here and am planning on picking up an 05 Base tomorrow and am just wonderindg about the costs for several mods here...

1) How much would it cost to have a muffler shop install a cherry bomb vortex with single in double out design with a stock tip fab?

2) How much would it cost for a 30% tint job?

3) How much would it cost for me to make a custom cai?

Ive been searching for several hours the past three or four fays and have come across what it looks like but have not found any prices... Thanks!

-Bruce
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Bruce, welcome aboard, hopefully you now have that base coupe.

As far as pricing, it all depends on exactly what you are looking for and how much ability you have. It is very difficult for someone who has never met you and has no idea exactly which car you are getting (year, tranny, etc) to tell you mow much it is going to cost you to make an intake. Do you want a dual or single, do you want a teflon coating of some sort, are you trying to do it as cheap as possible, etc.

Talk to some local shops around you about the tint and muffler. As far as the CAI, look through people's galleries and get some ideas, mock up what you want and take dimensions, create a shopping list, hit the internet, and you will have your price.

Good luck.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Sorry bout that... the crossfire is an 05, black, with a 6 speed.

For the cai, i want it to be a cheaper alternative to the $600 needswings with dual pipes for better flow.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Cherry bomb vortex...interesting and certainly different than the path many are taking; I'd be interested in how that sounds on the XF. I'm suspecting a lot louder than I want even on our car

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I'd also like to know how much increased HP and if you really get the estimated 40% more than the competition, which ever product that may be compared to.

I'd have to agree with BoilerUpXFire, you need to talk to some local shops to determine the cost they will charge and I'd say it will very greatly if you go through them to purchase or bring in your own.

As to the CAI, I too would like a dual, but I may go with the single if I can muster up the costs; and if down the road I want the dual, I'll see about an upgrade. You can always try to do your own like some have done. Good luck.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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I have been checking prices for the muffler and it will be $96.25 with free shipping. A custom with dual pipes should run appr. $175.

Im picking the car up today and im pretty sure she wont be stock for more than a month. I cant wait to get her!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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We don't have any dual intakes, but our singles are on sale for under 300.00.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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We don't have any dual intakes, but our singles are on sale for under 300.00.

Dual intake pipes have a better flow rate, two filters for maximum filtration and just look plain better under the hood. Now if you would give me a dual intake for under $300 i would gladly take it.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Dual intake pipes have a better flow rate, two filters for maximum filtration and just look plain better under the hood. Now if you would give me a dual intake for under $300 i would gladly take it.

And i can make my own dual cai for have the price of your single one.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BoardSnow6
Dual intake pipes have a better flow rate, two filters for maximum filtration and just look plain better under the hood. Now if you would give me a dual intake for under $300 i would gladly take it.
Originally Posted by BoardSnow6
And i can make my own dual cai for have the price of your single one.
Cocky little ******* aren't you! Sounds like you have it all figured out, so why are you here? There is a reason why the vast majority of members here buy the NW or the SL55 CAI.... proven hp and torque gains. Lots of R&D have gone into being able to produce these numbers. Many have been there and done that with the DIY CAIs, and have ended up with a NW or SL55. People on here do not spend the money to purchase these just because they are too lazy to make their own. Others have done it and are satisfied with the results (None have posted hp/torque gains though). Why don't you just make your own, and then post dyno'd results of before and after.

BTW, insulting one of our preferred vendors is not cool.
 

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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Cocky little ******* aren't you! Sounds like you have it all figured out, so why are you here? There is a reason why the vast majority of members here buy the NW or the SL55 CAI.... proven hp and torque gains. Lots of R&D have gone into being able to produce these numbers. Many have been there and done that with the DIY CAIs, and have ended up with a NW or SL55. People on here do not spend the money to purchase these just because they are too lazy to make their own. Others have done it and are satisfied with the results (None have posted hp/torque gains though). Why don't you just make your own, and then post dyno'd results of before and after.

BTW, insulting one of our preferred vendors is not cool.

Exactly why you went with a muffler right? Too poor to afford a cat back with proven R&D? I may be a little cocky but my point was made. I refuse to drop as much money as i did into my 07 Si (over $3000) and then have my car get totalled by some old bitc* that wasnt paying attention. Sorry for offending anyone but the costs for parts are literally too high!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Listen here you little *****. I went with an Ansa because I wanted the sound that the Ansa produced. I can afford to put whatever I want to on my car. I am not some 18 year old punk that has to count my pennies to do mods. Everything you do on a Crossfire is going to be expensive. Get used to it, or sell it and go buy yourself a honda civic. God forbid when you have to buy 9 quarts of synthetic oil to do an oil change. I am sure you will cut corners there.

Coming in this forum and insulting others is not a good way to get started.

BTW - What exactly do you think a cat back is? Cat back refers to the portion of the exhaust system from the outlet of the catalytic converter to the final vent to open air. This generally includes the pipe from the converter to the muffler, the muffler, and the final length of pipe to open air. In my case, I removed the resonator and replaced the piping from just behind the back catalytic converters to the ANSA exhaust, so by definition, I do have a cat back system. Having said that, the weak spot in our cars is in the exhaust manifold. We do not currently have an option for true headers, although a solution is on the way. Without headers, any money spent on a cat back will not produce any significant gains on these cars.
 

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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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I tried to come out and offer a few tips to point you in the right direction, then this thing went downhill faster than a strip poker game at Nacy Pelosi's
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BoardSnow6
Dual intake pipes have a better flow rate, two filters for maximum filtration and just look plain better under the hood. Now if you would give me a dual intake for under $300 i would gladly take it.

/fail.

Two filters filtering different air do not provide for any more filteration on a ppm (parts per million) basis. Dual intake pipes don't always have a better flow rate, if the measurements and/or dimensions are wrong or if there is too much fritcion on the I/D of the intake you will create a venturi effect in the y-pipe leading to the throttle body reducing the overall CFM of air introduced into the engine.


...to add a comment to your statement on the cost of parts. This is not a US built engine, or car for that matter. You are trying to modify a German engine (and frankly an expensive engine). If you look at the cost to modify other lines of Mercedes made engines you are talking multiple thousands of dollars for an intake or tune. Welcome to the world of Mercedes. Price is all relative, do your research, make your own decisions, have fun, and show a little respect to those who have come before you.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Hrmm.. wow. Where do I begin?

I could enter the flame war - but I guess i'll offer advice...?

Look maybe on craigslist or somewhere for someone that does tint jobs out of their garage / side job. Taking it to a shop I got quoted from 175-225$ from many places.. Found a guy on craigslist that used quality film and had references to do it for ~100$.. he was awesome, professional, etc. Did a fantastic job I threw him a $50 tip.

People do it as side jobs so they dont have to pay shop fees.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Well you wont get a whole lot of help if you come on this site and start bashing other members, you want to go cheap than go cheap, but you wont be happy, listen to the members here we have had these cars from 2004 and know way more than you could even dream of. A lot of time and hard earned money has been spent trying to get these cars where they are today as far as all the mods are concerned and still even making changes. These are expensive cars to keep and maintain alone, so if your not prepared to spend money then maybe the Crossfire is just not a car for you.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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As Bob said, without proper headers there is not much of a gain, our exhausts are pretty good from the factory, its not about being rich or poor its about being smart, many have tried and spent much money on there exhausts with minimal to no gains.

If you think its due to "poverty" that he just got a "muffler" then your insulting a large portion of the community here as I know MANY members only have just a "muffler".

and I hardly think you should be speaking about money when you think $300 is to much to spend on a quality Mercedes engine
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Yikes! My Dad told me when I got my first car I knew just enough to be dangerous. Of course I thought I had it all figured out. I think I finally understand just what he meant!! :-)
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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wow.. brutal replies on this one haha
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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For the love of.....crap why bother.

Well, because I think everybody needs to chill out a little and understand we can have opinions without having to take great personal offense. This isn't the political section after all; you know, where trading barbs is a hobby for most involved.

Now as to the parts cost etc., yes, they are going to be expensive when you consider the limited market. We have a very limited number of cars as compared to the companies that cater to larger production cars.

I'll leave this thread with only a couple more suggestions/comments.

It would be better for you to go into private negotiations with the vendors than to publicly do it or post comments the way you did; you've seen the results doing it that way.

Lastly, good luck with which ever route you go. Some have made their own with I'm sure success. If you decide to do so, by all means do so and post your pic's/vid's and any results; from what I've seen even the vendors here will give you praise.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bmorgan
We do not currently have an option for true headers, although a solution is on the way. Without headers, any money spent on a cat back will not produce any significant gains on these cars.

This is why I, a non-motor head, love reading the insight of those of you who have the aptitude OR at least the willingness to read up on this stuff. I've been researching various options with my exhaust and considered going to a local shop to go to the dual pipes all the way. Then yesterday I started pondering headers and dual pipes all the way. Costs may become prohibitive to go this route once the solution is here, but when is it expected?
 
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