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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:23 PM
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Just been doing a little browsing on the forum and ebay. Anybody gone the chip route over ECU flash?

CHRYSLER Crossfire 3.2 V6 18V chip Dyno-made 246HP 344NM | eBay

Also noticed ecu flash programs available to dyi and tweak. Kinda surprised the race crowd hasn't played in this area.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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I'm sure others will chime in on this as well, but I don't think that anyone has ever gotten a good chip from eBay or other web-based sellers that actually increases HP. I don't think I have seen this particular vendor before.

IMHO, best to go with a trusted company such as Eurocharged. I have had three Crossfires tuned by them and have been very happy each and every time.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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I tried this a while ago:
2004 Chrysler Crossfire OBD Performance Flash Chip | eBay

Would need a dyno to be able to tell the difference if any. I then proceded to do the intake/MAF/elbow/throtle body mods and those made a difference on their own.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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I'm sure others will chime in on this as well, but I don't think that anyone has ever gotten a good chip from eBay or other web-based sellers that actually increases HP. I don't think I have seen this particular vendor before.

IMHO, best to go with a trusted company such as Eurocharged. I have had three Crossfires tuned by them and have been very happy each and every time.
I understand the "tried and true".. but if nobody thought outside the box.. we'd all be in the same box.. LOL.
As long as Crossfires have been around I'm really surprised an ECU flash hasn't been purchased and played with "independently". Just browsing ebay it doesn't seem a cable and flash program is real expensive. And once the parameters have been logged adjusting another vehicle to them "shouldn't" be a major ordeal. Being in line for turbo makes it not an option at this point, but just kinda looking at later down the road.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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Either of these two sound good, especially if neither do anything negative to the reliability of the motor...is there a best route? What should I look for?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 06:14 AM
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Why am I always concerned anytime I see eBay and performance chip in the same sentence...

To be honest, their marketing write-up seems well done and makes their point in a crisp manner.

I'm not a tune guy, but is their statement true with regard to "chip tuned versus remapping"...

Thier business addres is Lithuania.

That must be the latest hot bed of engine technology for the European crowd...
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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So does a DVD with over 3000 stock and tuned maps make you cringe too? Just saying if no one touched their cars we'd all be running stock versions and paying dealer repair bills wouldn't we.
Just like Turbo Charging.. someone (Corky) said it's doable and has stepped out to get it done.
I would have to say Eurocharge (at least) knows you can flash your own or their mapping program wouldn't be "vin specific" encoded. And yeah I realize you probably need a German-English dictionary (or google translater).

And once again let me reflect back to the screen and baffle removal on the throttle body that was going to jack your engine up if you took it out and wouldn't give you any performance gains.. I just loved that thread!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by itsky
I'm sure others will chime in on this as well, but I don't think that anyone has ever gotten a good chip from eBay or other web-based sellers that actually increases HP. I don't think I have seen this particular vendor before.

IMHO, best to go with a trusted company such as Eurocharged. I have had three Crossfires tuned by them and have been very happy each and every time.
So Bully Dog is junk too? Pretty sure that's what my boss runs on his Diesel pickup and swears by it..
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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I think the point here is that we have not seen any 'chip' tune that actually did anything for a Crossfire/SLK.....

As the saying goes..... you pay your money and take your chances...
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeR
I think the point here is that we have not seen any 'chip' tune that actually did anything for a Crossfire/SLK.....

As the saying goes..... you pay your money and take your chances...
Agreed to this point.. just one of those "if no ones tried it" things.
Where are the maps stored? and no not the east coast west coast ones..

Someone stepped out and tried Eurocharge with their crossfires at one point.. and what did that start out at $800 bucks?

Don't get me wrong I'm not looking to endorse or convince anyone of anything here.. just sending out feelers. If a rice burner can be laptop tuned on race night.. can't see why a crossfire can't be tweaked with enough R&D. Probably waaayyy deeper than me or most want to delve .. but then again is it?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Well, buy one and let us know how it goes. I'm not saying it won't work, but I'm not willing to risk my money on an unknown.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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I have not heard of any chips that offer a performance increase on this board. I remember talk of them 3-4 years ago and the consensus was everyone that purchased one wasted their money. As for tunes I am happy with mine. And I know that a few have messed with the ECU themselves. Especially the guy to the rotrex turbo. He is remapping everything himself.

Since you are on the turbo list I suggest not getting a tune anytime soon as you would have to have it flashed back to OEM so that they can tune you for your turbo.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
I understand the "tried and true".. but if nobody thought outside the box.. we'd all be in the same box.. LOL.
As long as Crossfires have been around I'm really surprised an ECU flash hasn't been purchased and played with "independently". Just browsing ebay it doesn't seem a cable and flash program is real expensive. And once the parameters have been logged adjusting another vehicle to them "shouldn't" be a major ordeal. Being in line for turbo makes it not an option at this point, but just kinda looking at later down the road.
Buy one sounds like an option.. oh waite.. I already addressed that.. how about I buy a turbo system and let you know how it goes? Not to say maps and ECU flash hardware couldn't be a later option.

Like I said.. guess someone has to step out first. (or second as the case may be)

And Frank you are correct.. like I say just scoping out a fishing pond for later possibly...
 

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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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I guess we can just go back to talking about the hottest wheels and spacers and what color is your crossfire..
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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Only one way to see if this thing works. Someone with a stock N/A gets their car dyno'ed and then installs this and dyno's it again. Compair the graphs, that will settle it.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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Only one way to see if this thing works. Someone with a stock N/A gets their car dyno'ed and then installs this and dyno's it again. Compair the graphs, that will settle it.
Oh I concur.. Just testing the waters. Kinda like that other "chip" interface that was listed in this thread.. never had a clue someone had tried it out.. now we know on that one.. buttometer isn't sensitive enough to warrant a posting over it. Just like some brave and computer savvy soul might be playing with maps themselves.. wouldn't it be ideal to last minute tune your quarter miler for temps and humidity?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 12:08 AM
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If its true that the rpm goes up to 7000, its a big + because mine goes up to 6250 max, 150 dols is not that bad if it really add 29 hp
 
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