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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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You're making me salivate a little..

LMAO, Good!!! I wan't more people to have some real power come out of these things!
 
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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LMAO, Good!!! I wan't more people to have some real power come out of these things!
I have boost envy
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rayth
I have boost envy
In order to have envy, someone would have to have boost. Lots of talk for 8+ years, but no boost

Make me wrong. Please?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
In order to have envy, someone would have to have boost. Lots of talk for 8+ years, but no boost

Make me wrong. Please?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.. but didn't WEB3.0 have his running? Just not exactly fine tuned..
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Please correct me if I'm wrong.. but didn't WEB3.0 have his running? Just not exactly fine tuned..
Yes, to the best of my knowledge, he did have it running and I honestly felt he was the best chance we had, but I believe he had to give up the project due to family concerns or funding, but I may not be thinking of the right thread. Either way, his is not a turbo either, it is an electric supercharger that IIRC was fairly expensive, like more than the V8 I was looking at...

Like I said, I really hope someone can prove me wrong, but if I nickel for every guy who came on here and said it was easy, I would have a V12TT in my XF
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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Yeah you are correct on some family health issues bringing his project to an end.. but without searching I seem to recall some pulley issues he was dealing with, so I don't think it was electric.

It was a shame as he was right on the cusp of having it solved.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
Yes, to the best of my knowledge, he did have it running and I honestly felt he was the best chance we had, but I believe he had to give up the project due to family concerns or funding, but I may not be thinking of the right thread. Either way, his is not a turbo either, it is an electric supercharger that IIRC was fairly expensive, like more than the V8 I was looking at...

Like I said, I really hope someone can prove me wrong, but if I nickel for every guy who came on here and said it was easy, I would have a V12TT in my XF
That last part is funny lol, mainly cause it's true. But Web's build was a rotrex supercharger. It was belt driven. It worked and ran and all was good but he tore it apart and sold it or something because of family stuff that came up. The problem I had with his approach was the piggyback... That's not legal in any state that smogs. Annnd I think you're right John on it being overly expensive lol.

Either way, Bob told him how he could have a factory setup, he just didn't want to go that direction. If the kit was in place, the wires ran to the necessary places, the ECU work would be relatively easy... Immo swapped from original ECU to new ECU for key, VIN and Immobilizer data. The rest is already in the ECU. Of course this is provided you get the right ECU to start out with. If the Merc came with the IR key, then you will get stuck where I am right now. Since the SRT uses our key then even an Immo swap to an SRT ECU will work.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
In order to have envy, someone would have to have boost. Lots of talk for 8+ years, but no boost

Make me wrong. Please?
Them SRT boys have a boost, which I envy. And a better front bumper, which I copied. And an automatic transmission, which they can keep.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 04:34 PM
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The Allison T63 is a free-shaft axial/radial flow gas turbine. The compressor has 8 stages, 7 axial and 1 centrifugal. The compression ratio is 6.2:1, it flows approximately 3.0 lb/s (2,250 cfm) @ 51,600 rpm. The combustion chamber is a single can design. Two turbines drive the compressor and two drive the load through the gearbox (front or rear) at 35,000 rpm. Specific fuel consumption is 0.7 lb/shp/h. The engine weighs 138 lb and produces approximately 317 hp. (2.33 shp/lb) With the integral reduction gearbox this engine will produce 277 lb-ft of torque at 6,000 rpm.
Why worry about superchargers and turbos when you can drop in one of these puppies ?
All the kiddies would sure marvel when you took it to the drags .......

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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 04:53 PM
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Indeed Web had his @ 90-95% BUT never finished. He did great work with the rotrex supercharger system But clearly if It was done He would have sold it as done for much more than a pile of stuff in a trunk.

He spent a large period of time and Mucho Dinero on His project but just like every other build, It was the tuning that eluded Him. I believe that he would have solved his issues had His circumstances not changed so dramatically.

The answer is still NO! No one has yet to verifiably ( Keep those Unicorns in the stable) Build a boost system for the NA. Right Now I'm banking On My Homeboy Bart to get the job done.

Some day someone will.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
Either way, Bob told him how he could have a factory setup, he just didn't want to go that direction. If the kit was in place, the wires ran to the necessary places, the ECU work would be relatively easy... Immo swapped from original ECU to new ECU for key, VIN and Immobilizer data. The rest is already in the ECU. Of course this is provided you get the right ECU to start out with. If the Merc came with the IR key, then you will get stuck where I am right now. Since the SRT uses our key then even an Immo swap to an SRT ECU will work.
Yet again, I have heard 10+ people say exactly what you are saying here and in some MB forums, but no one here has done it. Web was close, but not with a turbo, and at what cost?

I am not trying to be a Debbie-Downer, just making sure there is some reality injected every once in a while LOL

I really hope you get the V8 running and then throw FI on it. Hopefully within the next few years, I will attempt a V8 swap if I don't already own a C63

Originally Posted by rayth
Them SRT boys have a boost, which I envy. And a better front bumper, which I copied. And an automatic transmission, which they can keep.
Very true, and well said. The same reason my second XF was a limited...
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
Yet again, I have heard 10+ people say exactly what you are saying here and in some MB forums, but no one here has done it. Web was close, but not with a turbo, and at what cost?

I am not trying to be a Debbie-Downer, just making sure there is some reality injected every once in a while LOL

I hear ya. But the main point is that no one has done it lol. Most people don't want to deal with solder work on SMD's, and buying the equipment to read, erase, and write files. It's too time consuming for most. I am so sure that it's possible though, that if someone has a system in place with everything ran wherever they need to go, gives me an SRT ECU and the original V6 ECU to their car that I will do it for free. No need for DAS, but obviously pinouts on the ECU must be correct to the T.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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Oh boy !!! here we go one more time !!!!!!!!
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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Oh boy !!! here we go one more time !!!!!!!!
You know.. if he just jumped off the "Honda" boat.. I'd agree with you.. But unlike most he does have his homework done..
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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Agreed. Sk8ter has been around a while ( since 2011) and has seen all the previous attempts. at this point My money would be on Sk8ter to get the job done.




Good luck!
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You know.. if he just jumped off the "Honda" boat.. I'd agree with you.. But unlike most he does have his homework done..
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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I hope it happens ,but it hasn't happened in 8 years so what leads me to believe it's going to happen now, a lot of people did their homework before they started this but never came through, the big problem is it come such a money pit they just give up,
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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cheaper to buy a SRT 6
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Osofast2
I hope it happens ,but it hasn't happened in 8 years so what leads me to believe it's going to happen now, a lot of people did their homework before they started this but never came through, the big problem is it come such a money pit they just give up,
nobody has a V8 6speed either, but that's in the works... correct me if I'm wrong but has anyone, to date, who has attempted the turbo project actually had the tools/software that sk8er has currently?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rayth
nobody has a V8 6speed either, but that's in the works... correct me if I'm wrong but has anyone, to date, who has attempted the turbo project actually had the tools/software that sk8er has currently?
Yes, tools, shop access, deep pockets and all who tried have moved on...
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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cheaper to buy a SRT 6
That's debatable. I found a V8 with 49xxx miles for $250. Shipped to my garage it was $510. If someone found a good deal on parts for a turbo, like a junkyard and a repair kit, then it wouldnt be that much at all. The expense typically is the ECU work... But I just said I would do the first for free, and if it's as easy as I think it would be (see quote below) then I would do it for cheap for the rest, or tell people how to do it.

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nobody has a V8 6speed either, but that's in the works... correct me if I'm wrong but has anyone, to date, who has attempted the turbo project actually had the tools/software that sk8er has currently?
As far as what I have read... no. Some may have had DAS with developer but I wan't to see more precise data. I have to with my swap. Besides, most people just send it off anyway. Look how many people went to Beckmann for coding their ECU. I just got a new V6 ECU and coded it to my car in about 10 minutes, and bypassed any need for DAS.
 
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