hey i want to know if the limited coupe is worthwile.

I'm was thinking about getting a srt6 but because it doesn't come in manual I'm sort of steering away from it.

I'm was really wanting a manual (im a manual sort of guy) i like to drive not ride.

So on the note.

With the popular mods you guys are doing (dual intake, cat back, cat delete, tune etc.)

what sort of improvement has this made? did you loop a few seconds off your 1/4 mile time, did your 0-60 go to down much.

just comparing. the srt6 still looks like fun. but still.

 

Search search search ;-) This has been asked a lot.


I was in the same boat. As far as I've seen, the fastest all motor Crossfires are in the high 13s, quarter mile wise. If that's not fast enough your only options are nitrous or an SRT6. 74mm throttle body, cold air intake from Needswings, and a tune from Eurocharged is expected to net you in the 260-270 crank HP range... OEM exhaust flows very well, no gains to be had there except sound. I'm sure someone will be along to argue the numbers or methods shortly if I'm in error


That being said - the Limited is still "quick" enough to bring a smile to your face, and if you get it on some curvy back roads you won't miss the horsepower as much as you expect. Not that it wouldn't be nice...

 

XME, just exactly where have you "SEEN" the fastest "ALL MOTOR" Crossfires that are in the 13's?
I've been on this forum for 9 years, and yes I've heard "talk" that certain cars with 270+ hp that are "capable" of 13 sec. times. But those very same people that make those claims, also say that they don't have to prove it to anybody. They just have faith in their very own seat-of-the-pants dyno.
Unfortunately, in this age of everything being captured on video, 1/4 mile time slips make things a "fact" and not speculation.
The only NA Crossfire to run in the 13's (that I'm aware of from this forum) does so using NOS.
The fastest 1/4 mile verified by a time slip, I believe was 14.38 or 14.40.
If anybody has spent the money to build their Crossfire into a 270, 280, or 290 hp fire breather, as far as I know they have yet to take it to the drags and verify it. Certainly, if they can afford to spend the money to build it, they should have enough to test it.
Personally, I don't think it's going to happen with the stock 3.27 gear that we have. Maybe with something like a 3.55 or 3.73 we may see it happen.IMO
More than likely, it will be a 6 spd. since they are nearly a 1/2 sec, quicker in the 1/4 mile in stock condition.

 

I have had both, my suggestion is the SRT6.
I had a manual NA, fun but not so much as 50% more hp.

 

To clarify, I've yet to seem time slips confirming anything either. Just claims, and I'm merely stating if that isn't going to be enough, don't even look at the NA. A lot cheaper to get an SRT6 from the start than an NA, a $1000+ in mods, not be happy, sell it, and buy an SRT6 anyway.

 

Thanks XME, I thought maybe I had missed it. I try to keep up with as many posts as I can, but every once in awhile a couple get by me.
Like the OP said, he loves a manual shift. He has to ask himself, "does he like to drag race more than using a clutch pedal"?
I was on an Ohio road last weekend, very similar to the Dragon. I'm still very glad I have a 6 sp.

 

You nailed it there.


I've only ever driven manual vehicles. Every time I get in an auto I feel like I've had a limb lopped off or something. Stomping the floorboard with my left foot, letting off the gas at redline to shift, not being able to figure out why I can't get the keys out of the ignition after parking.... LOL

 

Get the SRT6 and never look back. You'll forget about using that clutch pedal very quickly . . .

 

Once upon a time I never thought I would agree with this.

But automatics have gotten so much better.

And torque...

...is a drug.

 

I no longer own a Crossfire Roadster automatic but owned 2 for approx. 5 years. After selling my last one, I persuaded myself to buy a Mini Cooper Roadster Automatic just to play around with at weekends, and I can tell you, the Crossfire is by far (MILES) better in all aspects of performance than my current Mini Cooper. The Crossfire was a little too cramped for me and the wife, particularly when we took our 2 Dachshunds with us. I do miss my Crossfires BUT Ahhh Well

 

Autos have improved greatly. Also remember we're talking about a sports car here, not the slushbox in your mate's 96 Chevy Cavalier...

 

Just buy the highest mileage coupe 6-speed you can find and give me a call with all the money you saved by not getting an SRT. Lol

But only if you're ok with never matching the potential the SRT offers. Stock to stock, it hasn't been confirmed, but Jimmy has an SRT and I bet we would take them. Slightly modded SRT vs my car? No contest unless I'm heavily modded.

I want an SRT someday, but the motor wont stay, and the trans will be replaced with a better unit and retrofitted to the 55K programming and controls. With a TCU tune sure, the 32K trans can be ok. IMHO it's not all that and a bag of chips. The E55 auto trans and controls? Pretty damn decent, probably damn good with a TCU tune. I still feel I can match the shifts in my manual with the 55 in sport. Mercedes has never been known for making good auto's... Chris Harris on cars loves Mercedes, his one gripe every single time he drives one? The auto trans...

 

This ^

If you don't want to put in work and money for a swap or pay someone to do it to keep the 6-speed, then yes buy an SRT. You'll love it, anyone would.

 

I'm not really interested in drag racing. i like driving around, especially on the weekend through mountain passes and windy country roads.

your right though. i havent had a car with the manual -auto box. srt6 it is then.

hey. you know the TCU upgrades im reading about. do they make it like a DSG box? i mean that as in the quick changes.

 

Now, now don't discriminate. To be completely fair, they're not that good at making manual transmissions either

 

I don't know, I've been throwing 125% of it's rating at it for quite a while without even going through a clutch that was original with 70,000 miles on it lol. Seems pretty good to me. Plus I like the clutch feel, I wish the shifts were a 1/2" shorter in throw but it's still quick if you shift it right. The V8 changed it a lot too though, it's more manageable, and smoother.

 

I was just referring to the feel, but *nice* I didn't think MB had any manual transmissions that would handle that much torque.

 

What's weird is I was pretty iffy on the feel, but with the V8 there actually is feel. It's not as numb as with the V6. It could just be in my head, maybe cause it's been my daily driver for a few years now, Idk.

And yeah, hopefully it takes another 200 ft-lbs without issue.

And for the record to everyone, I'm not picking on the SRT's. They are great machines.

 

No, there is a terrible delay with manually commanded shifts with the automatic trans. It is not enjoyable like a DSG. I have not driven one with a retuned TCU, but I don't believe the TCU tune cures this. Plan on leaving it in automatic mode and letting it choose the shifts for you. The transmission logic is actually very good at selecting the right gear to be in.

 

The are the same transmission. NAG1. It's in a LOT of Mercedes and Chrysler vehicles. There are differences in the clutches and programming from model to model. The NAG1 has a reputation of being a very solid transmission actually.