I know this a silly question - can someone check and see if the E on the gas meter should be lit up red when the headlights/fog lamps are on. I could have sworn mine used to light up red behind the E where there is a red dash. I included a picture - just making sure there is not a bulb out behind the dash panel.

Thanks -

 

The actual Gage including the "E" is all green.
There is a red mark just above the "E" t the red does not light on my '04 Coupe.

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It doesn't light up.

 

The red section does not light up on mine either. I was thinking about taking it in to get it fixed but now that i see that it isn't supposed to light up then I won't waste my time.

 

I believe it only lights up when you actually get to the point of not having gas left. LOL.

 

That is correct. Mines lights up when I'm at E or below. It doesn't light up as long as you have gas.

 

Thanks a lot - I must have been really low on gas when it came on & I didn't pay attention and thought it was on all the time -

 

I'll look for that red "low fuel" dash (shouldn't that feature be documented in the owner's manual?), but I have another problem on my 2005 SRT-6 - the area of the instrument panel with the fuel gage is not lit as brightly as the rest. I was able to remove the fuse cover on that side of dash, pull out the vent assembly and get my hand behind the gauge, but I can't find a bulb socket, twist-out or othewise. There is a small depression behind the fuel gauge, but I verified on another Crossfire that this is normal, not a missing bulb socket. There is also a large rectangular protrusion (at an angle) that feels like a wiring harness plug-in, but the "bumps" on both sides which I would expect to be clips don't really give when pressed and I can't get it to come loose. Anyone ever changed out an instrument panel bulb, especially behnid the fuel gauge? I was never able to download a service manual to look it up.

 

From the service manual for your pleasure:

1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Remove the steering wheel.

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INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - SERVICE INFORMATION 8J - 83

4. Remove the instrument cluster bezel (1).
5. Remove the retaining screws from instrument cluster.
6. Move the instrument cluster toward the rear of the vehicle.
7. Unlock and disconnect the Instrument Cluster harness connectors
from the back of the instrument cluster.

8. Remove the instrument cluster from the vehicle

 

Copy and paste out of the PDF caused the formatting issues that I'm not inclinded to fix because I'm tired :P

 

Thanks, sounds like quite a job if steering wheel has to be pulled. I'll probably wait on this one. Any idea how I can get a service manual reasonable? I gave up on the old posts that referenced a download site - couldn't get it to work.

 

Hi just to try and clear up the queries ref' dashboard/instrument/switch lighting - the workshop manual describes these as LED lights which are permanantly fixed, and these are not servicable, if a light fails then the whole instrument/switch unit will need changing. (very worrying) There are no bulbs in the instrument panelling and switches. Some of my switches are bright, some are quite dim. This is one of the poor quality issues I have with car, but we just have to live with it.

 

Hi,

Many thanks to manisusmc for emailing me a service manual. If you look at pages 8J 81-82 some 26 Illumination and Indicator bulbs are shown on a rear view schematic of the instrument panel. They are counter-clockwise twist out and clockwise twist-in according to page 82. However, from feeling of the back of one side of my instrument cluster, I didn't find these. Not sure if design changed (doubt it as I felt of the back of an early 2004 model and was the same), or the back of instrument panel has to be removed, or ???. Haven't looked thru entire manual but removal procedures for entire cluster are shown. Looks involved as steering wheel and lower panels come off.

 

The red area next to the E does not light on my dash, even when the tank is very low and the low fuel light is on.

But it's odd the the red area next to the H on the water temp dial does light up red.

 

O.k., I went and looked at mine and, when back-lit by instrument lamps (car lights on) the small red line by the Empty mark is very dim, while the area by the hot area of temp gauge is bright, flourescent red as is the tach between 6000 and 7000 RPM. Very odd, since I have an illumination bulb out behind temp gauge and red is still much, much brighter than red on fuel gauge. I then turned lights out and used a high power flash light on front of cluster - all reds same color as I would expect in daylignt without lights on. Go figure. Another fact that lends credence to a red low fuel light on fuel gauge - my service manual diagram shows a "low fuel warning lamp" in the lower area of the fuel gauge. However, it doesn't show a low fuel indicator where I have one in position 8 (Outside light in left indicator light cluster, 2nd row from bottom). Instead it shows an air bag warning light in position 8 and next to it in position 5 is where I have the air bag warning light. The book shows a low oil level light in position 5 but my car has it at an unlabeled (but shown) location at top of rignt indicator lamp cluster. I can only conclude that either the design was changed after documentation developed or things were changed from one year model to the next. Also, I have an SRT6, so maybe the cluster was different for these cars. My service manual ecopy does not indicate year model or SRT6.

 

The red segment at the bottom of the fuel guage should light up as brightly as the other segments on the temp guage and rev counter. The low fuel warning light is in with the other warning lights to the left of the main guages.
Mine used to work but went out some time ago. Due to my travels I didn't get around to asking my local dealer about it.
My car went in for it's 2nd service yesterday (Thurs 28 Feb) so I went into the dealer last Saturday to tell them about a couple of issues.
I figured they'd then have 5 days to investigate and order any parts they needed.
My CD was constantly skipping and they were able to order in a replacement head unit, so at least that was worthwhile....

As for the fuel guage.... they were unable to confirm whether it's a bulb or an LED and told me that I would have to book the car back in so they can take the dash out and look.
Of course, despite being a main dealer that always has Crossfires in stock; they don't even have a workshop manual....
If it's a bulb it's not covered by the warranty. I asked them if it was covered by warranty if it were an LED unit. They couldn't even confirm that, saying they they would have to contact Chrysler to check. You don't even want to know how much labour they were going to charge me to take the dash out to look.....

As an aside, there is also a rattle coming from the front somewhere: I think there's a loose screw behind the internal trim... they of course couldn't replicate the problem and told me it was stuff in my glovebox (which I had emptied)...

At least the actual service went ok (I think)....

 

From the Service Manual:
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² Low fuel warning lamp — from the Instrument Cluster. The lamp illuminates whenever the fuel level drops
to 8 liters (2.1 gallons) The lamp extinguishes after refueling is detected. If fuel is added with the ignition key
in the ON position, refueling is detected only after 7.9 liters (2 gallons) or more of fuel is added.

 

This is an FYI for anyone needing to service their own speedo cluster. You do NOT need to remove the steering wheel at all. You only need to remove the bottom half of the driver side dash (fuse cover also) and then remove the mid-section dash which includes the cluster garnish. This part is tricky but once you have unbolted the bottom dash and lower screws and tabs to mid section, you need to carefully pull down the top part of the cluster garnish to release the tabs that go behind a lip under the upper dash assembly. Having the steering wheel telescope positioned closest to the driver is a must. I just did this whole process myself in less than 2 hours and it wasn't hard. This can be done in less than half an hour if you have the manual, I just didn't know where all the tabs and screws were. There are about a dozen screws to remove in the whole process and that's about it.

 

Mine was the same way dealer fixed it said it was a Modual. mine was bright in certian areas of the guages......

 

i just took my car to the dealership to get my seat heater fixed and i had a parking light out. but my red bar is out too and the dealership is a 5 star chrysler so we pulled up a brand new crossfire and it didnt light up so we pulled out ANOTHER crossfire and it didnt light up either. i dont think it is supposed to light up