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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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I was on a more obscure MB forum that is mostly guys hot rodding their MB cars and found this link posted by a guy that is regrinding his cams to the Schrick specs since they no longer make cams for his engine which I believe is the case for the 112 V6 that we all enjoy. All Schrick cam specs are in the attached PDF:

http://www.avl-schrick.com/dat/MK/Sc...202009%20E.pdf
 
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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We have all the current specs for schrick cams, valves, valve springs, and everything else they sell if you need more info.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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It’s curious that they ground but one profile for our M112s.

Leads one to believe that they've been optimized for either the normally aspirated or forced induction applications; not both.
Supercharged-specific cam timing specifications are typically quite different from NA figures on bumpsticks from domestic cam suppliers.


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We have all the current specs for schrick cams, valves, valve springs, and everything else they sell if you need more info.
Any firsthand experiences or results you’re willing to share regarding their fitment on suitably modified SRT6/C32s?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by splinter
It’s curious that they ground but one profile for our M112s.

Leads one to believe that they've been optimized for either the normally aspirated or forced induction applications; not both.
Supercharged-specific cam timing specifications are typically quite different from NA figures on bumpsticks from domestic cam suppliers.


Any firsthand experiences or results you’re willing to share regarding their fitment on suitably modified SRT6/C32s?
They are designed for the NA cars. On the SC cars the duration and overlap aren't set up ideally for a drastic HP gain. It does give it a nice sound though.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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it would be interesting for someone to do a piston-valve clearance test to see just how big one could regrind the stock cams.

i would hope atleast 12mm of lift, somewhere around 270* duration
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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I'll bet that Elgin Cams could grind some cams for a whole lot less than Scrick can. check their web site. they mention mercedes.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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p.s.
your link is dead
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Infinite
it would be interesting for someone to do a piston-valve clearance test to see just how big one could regrind the stock cams.

i would hope atleast 12mm of lift, somewhere around 270* duration
The schrick max out the lift pretty much, anything higher and you get some interference issues. If you swap over to clearanced pistons (SRT6) then you have room for a little more.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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I just got off the phone with Demitre (Dema) Elgin. He has been in business forever and was a drag racer in the 50's and '60's. I knew him back in my drag racing days in the '70's. A pair of cams for our cars will $300-$400 which is just a bit leass than Schrick! He also mentioned he works with Schrick and cen get their specs as well. While he produces cams for MB's he hasn't done any for the 112 and 113 MB engines. He said he would need cams and a few bit of the valve train roller rocker and hydraulic shim pad) to design some cams. but he is VERY interested in working with us. He is located in Northern CA. If I don't sell my V6 soon I may be able to send him what he needs or if someone else here can send the parts that would be great as well as I would like to sell my V6 as soon as the V8 starts which could be today.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX
I just got off the phone with Demitre (Dema) Elgin. He has been in business forever and was a drag racer in the 50's and '60's. I knew him back in my drag racing days in the '70's. A pair of cams for our cars will $300-$400 which is just a bit leass than Schrick! He also mentioned he works with Schrick and cen get their specs as well. While he produces cams for MB's he hasn't done any for the 112 and 113 MB engines. He said he would need cams and a few bit of the valve train roller rocker and hydraulic shim pad) to design some cams. but he is VERY interested in working with us. He is located in Northern CA. If I don't sell my V6 soon I may be able to send him what he needs or if someone else here can send the parts that would be great as well as I would like to sell my V6 as soon as the V8 starts which could be today.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Really interested in this but cant take my motor apart, Daily driver
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Way ahead of you guys. We have cams there now that are being ground to new specs. Mr. Elgin is going on vaca in 2 weeks, so not sure if they'll be done by them.

With the schrick cams you also get valve springs, which will be necessary with an upgraded cam. You can upgrade to the V8 springs for about 550. So you may be looking at about 1200.00 for cams, springs, and retainers, not including installation.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyshadow
Really interested in this but cant take my motor apart, Daily driver
that's ok, just put the sticker on your '07 N/A ... it should fit perfectly right above that "AMG" emblem
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by billvp
that's ok, just put the sticker on your '07 N/A, it should go right above that "AMG" emblem
Is there a sticker?!? I'll take two please. lol

Oh bill, Your a knee slapper
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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I amuse myself, if nobody else ... /threadhijack
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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I'm not in the market for cams right now, but perhaps in the not so distant future. If they're ground for a SRT, that is. I don't know if it's worth the bother to put cams developed for N/A in anything other than N/A.

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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
I'm not in the market for cams right now, but perhaps in the not so distant future. If they're ground for a SRT, that is. I don't know if it's worth the bother to put cams developed for N/A in anything other than N/A.

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Elgin does custom grinds so you would send your cams and let him know that you have a supercharger and any other mods.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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A cam for the srt6 would be great it seems silly amg didn't put a different cam in the supercharged 3.2
 
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