P0141 and P0161 Codes
I've had my Crossfire for about a year now and have always had a CEL for both rear O2 sensors - there were a lot of codes like no activity, high voltage, low voltage, etc.... Before I put it back on the road this year, I decided to fix it. After getting under there, I saw that the previous owner had used the AutoZone universal O2's and the connectors look like they were from something he had lying around - they were spliced in on both sides of the connector.
So after much searching, I got the OEM connectors from a Mercedes dealership and bought OEM style AC Delco O2 sensors. I neatly spliced them back into the engine harness, using the wiring diagram/color codes from the service manual.
Now I have only the 0141 and 0161 codes - heater circuit malfunction on both rear sensors. It seems odd to me that it's both and the likelihood of getting two new sensors with bad heater elements seems slim. I've checked and have 12.9-13V to the O2 sensor plugs, but haven't tested them under load because I don't have the tools to do so where I am now.
Is there anything else I should be looking for or common problems with this?
So after much searching, I got the OEM connectors from a Mercedes dealership and bought OEM style AC Delco O2 sensors. I neatly spliced them back into the engine harness, using the wiring diagram/color codes from the service manual.
Now I have only the 0141 and 0161 codes - heater circuit malfunction on both rear sensors. It seems odd to me that it's both and the likelihood of getting two new sensors with bad heater elements seems slim. I've checked and have 12.9-13V to the O2 sensor plugs, but haven't tested them under load because I don't have the tools to do so where I am now.
Is there anything else I should be looking for or common problems with this?
I've had my Crossfire for about a year now and have always had a CEL for both rear O2 sensors - there were a lot of codes like no activity, high voltage, low voltage, etc.... Before I put it back on the road this year, I decided to fix it. After getting under there, I saw that the previous owner had used the AutoZone universal O2's and the connectors look like they were from something he had lying around - they were spliced in on both sides of the connector.
So after much searching, I got the OEM connectors from a Mercedes dealership and bought OEM style AC Delco O2 sensors. I neatly spliced them back into the engine harness, using the wiring diagram/color codes from the service manual.
Now I have only the 0141 and 0161 codes - heater circuit malfunction on both rear sensors. It seems odd to me that it's both and the likelihood of getting two new sensors with bad heater elements seems slim. I've checked and have 12.9-13V to the O2 sensor plugs, but haven't tested them under load because I don't have the tools to do so where I am now.
Is there anything else I should be looking for or common problems with this?
So after much searching, I got the OEM connectors from a Mercedes dealership and bought OEM style AC Delco O2 sensors. I neatly spliced them back into the engine harness, using the wiring diagram/color codes from the service manual.
Now I have only the 0141 and 0161 codes - heater circuit malfunction on both rear sensors. It seems odd to me that it's both and the likelihood of getting two new sensors with bad heater elements seems slim. I've checked and have 12.9-13V to the O2 sensor plugs, but haven't tested them under load because I don't have the tools to do so where I am now.
Is there anything else I should be looking for or common problems with this?
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Well, c'mon you guys - his user name says it all.
I suspect I know who this is, and an IP search will reveal that what we have here is a sock puppet. Personally, I am enjoying his posts.
I suspect I know who this is, and an IP search will reveal that what we have here is a sock puppet. Personally, I am enjoying his posts.
No.. I'd say more for smart people.. which is why YOU confuse me by owning one..
I find no room for shame by fixing my car instead of giving it to the dealer.. Makes for more vacations.. Like Las Vegas in April?
Last edited by Mrmiata; Feb 13, 2016 at 10:56 PM.
10 oil wells here.. Retired.. granted OPEC has cut the play money down.. Get to bed early for your work day..
Looks like a really nice day for me to take the Harley out tomorrow..
There's no need for negativity here! Many of us enjoy working on our cars as opposed to throwing our money away by letting a dealer who doesn't have someone trained on the Crossfire. If you want to do so, go ahead, I will continue to rely on this forum and all the helpful people here for my solutions. And if I'm able to leave something to help my daughter or grandchildren, then I will feel very good about that.
"His" name .. listed as female.. which more than answers the "I need the dealer" syndrome ...
True! Only 1 check of the monthly checks was 100K... but we're suffering through. But thanks for your concern.
And as they say.. God Bless Texas..
Last edited by Mrmiata; Feb 14, 2016 at 02:49 PM.
Good one! And since that's all you got left.. we'll call this done..
I have enjoyed using the forum to learn more about the crossfire and save money from much higher dealer costs. I know I am new to the forum but have sent the RCM out to get fixed and replaced my own cps thanks again to the forum. I also believe that it should be ok for someone to choose to go a dealer for repairs or try to fix their problems if they choose to do so. In the end I don't however believe it serves any if us any good if we should denigrate either for choosing their particular solution to a problem regardless of their income level.
I have enjoyed using the forum to learn more about the crossfire and save money from much higher dealer costs. I know I am new to the forum but have sent the RCM out to get fixed and replaced my own cps thanks again to the forum. I also believe that it should be ok for someone to choose to go a dealer for repairs or try to fix their problems if they choose to do so. In the end I don't however believe it serves any if us any good if we should denigrate either for choosing their particular solution to a problem regardless of their income level.
OK, here's a good example of DIY vs dealer :
I just replaced both crap Infinity subwoofers in my roadster for a total cost of $52.
At the dealer, that would have been somewhere north of $500 and you would STILL have the crap Infinity's.
I just replaced both crap Infinity subwoofers in my roadster for a total cost of $52.
At the dealer, that would have been somewhere north of $500 and you would STILL have the crap Infinity's.
Hey George did you find new subwoofers that fit or find replacements from another Crossfire?
I installed Pyle PLPW6D 6.5'' 600 Watt Dual Voice Coil 4 Ohm Subwoofers.
The magnets on these puppies are about 3 times larger than the original Infinity's.
( easy way to do the hacking : drill around the area with a 1/4" bit as close together as you can, then use wire cutters to clip between the drill holes. Easy peasy Japanesy.
It ain't pretty, but it's all hidden so it does not matter. )
Last edited by ala_xfire; Feb 15, 2016 at 08:28 AM.
They did not fit without some modifications to the plastic holder assembly.
I installed Pyle PLPW6D 6.5'' 600 Watt Dual Voice Coil 4 Ohm Subwoofers.
The magnets on these puppies are about 3 times larger than the original Infinity's.
( easy way to do the hacking : drill around the area with a 1/4" bit as close together as you can, then use wire cutters to clip between the drill holes. Easy peasy Japanesy.
It ain't pretty, but it's all hidden so it does not matter. )
I installed Pyle PLPW6D 6.5'' 600 Watt Dual Voice Coil 4 Ohm Subwoofers.
The magnets on these puppies are about 3 times larger than the original Infinity's.
( easy way to do the hacking : drill around the area with a 1/4" bit as close together as you can, then use wire cutters to clip between the drill holes. Easy peasy Japanesy.
It ain't pretty, but it's all hidden so it does not matter. )
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