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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 12:12 PM
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Default What is the unit under the headlight?

I have a UK n/a xf, I have just found a broken negative wire on that unit. It is bolted with 2 bolts under the drivers side headlight, it has 2 wires going to it and one pipe coming from the 2 small canisters and one pipe going to the engine. Can this be fixed as the pole has corroded or is it a new unit? What is the unit called?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 12:50 PM
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That is the "REST" pump. It circulates hot coolant fluid through the heater core when you press the "REST" button on the A/C control panel and leave the car with the engine off to keep the inside warm. It is your choice as to whether to fix it, or just leave it.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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Default Re: What is the unit under the headlight?

Thanks for that, can the connection be fixed or is it replace the complete unit?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 02:01 PM
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Without actually seeing the unit ( or a good picture of it ), I couldn't say
 
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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Does the electrical connection come off the unit as this is at fault not the main unit? One of the poles is corroded and the wire has snapped away from it.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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Default Re: What is the unit under the headlight?

If the electrical posts on the pump are too corroded to accept a connection, then I'd say you need a new pump.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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Default Re: What is the unit under the headlight?

Does this electrical connection come away from the pump?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 03:40 PM
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The pump has an extension on the motor end cap with 2 round brass pins that the harness connects to. If the pins are gone, then you will need a replacement pump.

0 392 020 029

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engine-Aux...-/400811647700
 
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 04:15 PM
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Default Re: What is the unit under the headlight?

And there we have another clear and complete diagnosis from our very own Dr. George (ala_xfire)!
 

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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Default Re: What is the unit under the headlight?

Originally Posted by ala_xfire
The pump has an extension on the motor end cap with 2 round brass pins that the harness connects to. If the pins are gone, then you will need a replacement pump.

0 392 020 029

Engine Auxiliary Water Pump-Bosch 0 392 020 029 fits 96-03 Mercedes E320
Is it possible that the cap can come off, have wires attached to the contacts inside, then have the wire protrude from the cap which is resealed by silicone and have the ends of the new wires attached to the existing plug on the harness?
Maybe the plug has to be cut off and have an insulated wire to wire connection
I'd sure hate to toss out a perfectly good pump if it is still working.
It may not look too pretty but whose looking anyway?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 02:42 PM
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Thanks for the reply's, the poles seem ok just one has some corrosion on it and the wire has come away. Does the plastic cap which has a cover over the poles actually come off? Also how are the wires connected?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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Default Re: What is the unit under the headlight?

The plastic cap COULD come off, but is not designed to.
It is held in place by bent metal fingers which are part of the metal surround.
The pins are connected internally to the motor brushes.

Externally, there is a 2 pin plug from the harness to the motor. The plug is keyed to prevent swapping the + and the - polarity.

( I know all this, because I have one sitting right here on my desk that I saw on eBay for $10 )
 

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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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Yes I see the + & - symbols, so does this separate from another plastic part? Sorry for being so thick, I just don't want to break anything.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 03:25 PM
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Default Re: What is the unit under the headlight?

I don't have access to the harness connector, but here is a picture of the 2 pin connection on the pump :
 
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 09:51 AM
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Thanks for all he help ala-xfire, I got the harness plug off and the poles on the pump are fine. The problem is the harness plug, the wire has snapped at the solder, so I have ditched the harness plug and just used 2 female red bullet connectors which fit nice and snug.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ardenian
Thanks for all he help ala-xfire, I got the harness plug off and the poles on the pump are fine. The problem is the harness plug, the wire has snapped at the solder, so I have ditched the harness plug and just used 2 female red bullet connectors which fit nice and snug.
Just curious, have you tested it? The R.E.S.T. feature is really interesting, but I doubt many people ever use it. Also, did you take any pictures?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Hi, no i have not tested it yet as battery is disconnected as car is in the middle of strip down. I don't like to see broken wires so that is why I sorted it out. I will see if it works when all sorted. What pictures were you after?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 10:49 AM
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Default Re: What is the unit under the headlight?

Originally Posted by ardenian
. What pictures were you after?
The damage to the wires/connector, was it just caused by age/weathering, or did something tear it apart.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 10:58 AM
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I think it was more likely to be an age thing as pole connector in the harness plug was corroded and the wire seems to be quite hard.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 12:00 PM
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Found this thread whilst researching heater issues. I was perusing the Xfire shop manual and it states:

"The coolant circulation pump (5) serves for maintaining a uniform flow of heating water through the heater core (4) even at low engine speeds and in the residual engine heat utilization mode (REST)"

I've been testing mine because I don't think it's pumping well (my heater is not getting very warm) and on my car it's running whenever the engine is running and the heater is on (which confirms the description above).
 
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