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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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there is an interesting comment from pizzaguy regarding the contact in england that could be convenient to hear your opinion:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post930390
see post #5
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
there is an interesting comment from pizzaguy regarding the contact in england that could be convenient to hear your opinion:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post930390
see post #5
That is verry interesting, but i didn't read that pizzaguy's guess was confirmed, or did i miss something?
If this were so, it would be a dead end again...
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 03:43 AM
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well, no. it is just speculation, a rumor...but worth confirming if possible. wonder if can be done.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
well, no. it is just speculation, a rumor...but worth confirming if possible. wonder if can be done.
Not so much a RUMOR as a question about my questionable memory. There have been so many posts and attempts, I am ASKING if this was the company that let someone down.
I hope I'm wrong.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:31 AM
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I am going to try to get Josh to stop by this thread - but beware all, I head for the Dragon at 6am tomorrow! I will be gone till October 8th.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:42 AM
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Hello,
who is Josh and can he help us with the skreem?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:44 AM
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Josh Chase of "The Mercedes Swap Shop" in California. He has done some V8 conversions and knows the ECM/SKREEM thing as well as anyone out there.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:50 AM
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Ok, I don't know him but seems like he can help us a much
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 01:32 PM
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also, in case you havent seen this, could be convenient to see all: https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...rt-number.html
 
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
also, in case you havent seen this, could be convenient to see all: https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...rt-number.html
Very interesting. And also the price they mentioned here is interesting, they "forgot" the VAT, this they send to me: The cost for this service is £349.00 + vat + £20.00 postage. Total £442.80 GBP
 

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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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also, read this somewhere:
" The real engine management is handled by a small EPROM chip that is soldered onto the mother board. This contains the operating software... Removing the original EPROM from the motherboard is what takes place when you send the ECU to a "tuner" to get it flashed... The reason it must be removed is because it circumvents the OEM security measures that are built-in to prevent manipulation of the software... It's a tedious task that should not be attempted unless you have experience removing them from mother boards... That being said, instead of purchasing a new ECU (mother board) I can get you a new EPROM chip and install an "old school" clip device that allows you to pop the chip in-and-out with a pair of needle nose pliers... Then we can copy your OEM software onto the second EPROM and you can mess with the maps with the security of knowing you have the OEM operating system backed-up."


not knowing a thing, i wonder if this could bring any light to the subject discussed here? it is just for you experts to consider.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
also, read this somewhere:
" The real engine management is handled by a small EPROM chip that is soldered onto the mother board. This contains the operating software... Removing the original EPROM from the motherboard is what takes place when you send the ECU to a "tuner" to get it flashed... The reason it must be removed is because it circumvents the OEM security measures that are built-in to prevent manipulation of the software... It's a tedious task that should not be attempted unless you have experience removing them from mother boards... That being said, instead of purchasing a new ECU (mother board) I can get you a new EPROM chip and install an "old school" clip device that allows you to pop the chip in-and-out with a pair of needle nose pliers... Then we can copy your OEM software onto the second EPROM and you can mess with the maps with the security of knowing you have the OEM operating system backed-up."


not knowing a thing, i wonder if this could bring any light to the subject discussed here? it is just for you experts to consider.
For the ecu that is right, but you don't have to remove the EEPROM you can programm it on board.


Look above, there I have explain what you have to copy. But you can copy the whole EEPROM if you only want to change the ECU (only if both ECU have the same part number). Or you solder the EEPROM from one to the other ecu if you don't have a programmer.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 05:44 AM
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terrific, thank you very much.
now, could you please explain the details, like how to make the clip and/or where to get it?
 
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
terrific, thank you very much.
now, could you please explain the details, like how to make the clip and/or where to get it?
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. If you mean what parts of the EEPROM of the ECU is for what see: EEPROM ECU
 

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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 08:47 AM
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am talking about the black plastic piece similar to clothespin connected to the board at the photograph. the 1 with six wires, 3 on each side.
is this made by you or is available commercially?
this: https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s...31.DkHzpS_aDWU
 
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
am talking about the black plastic piece similar to clothespin connected to the board at the photograph. the 1 with six wires, 3 on each side.
is this made by you or is available commercially?
this: https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s...31.DkHzpS_aDWU
Ok they are available commercially SOP8 Clip Adapter
But you need an programmer too, I used a Orange 5 clone.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Viper-666
But you need an programmer too
And LOT of expertise, and the willingness to accept the fact that, as you learn to do this, you may very well render a module useless.
Risky stuff if you don't know what you are doing - I am NOT saying that it is impossible to learn.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 09:25 AM
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couldnt agree more. just trying to learn....
 
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 08:50 PM
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there is another thread https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-module-2.html where i posted a question regarding what you get if you find the way to get a module from mercedes.
i will appreciate your comment about it.
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 04:57 AM
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thank you for posting there. the explanation puts an end to that search.
thanks again.
 
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