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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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I work at an MB dealer parts counter. The largest MB parts dealer in the central US as a matter of fact ($20+ million in parts sales last year).
If your Chrysler dealer is still raping you with the filter, go to any MB dealer and pick up filter 000-180-26-09 (book list $18.50) and it'll be fine.
The AMG cars (as in SRT-6) use 10,000 mile oil drain intervals and the standard MB cars with the 112 engine (non-SRT XF) use 15,000 mile intervals.
Change it at 3,000 if you like, but it shouldn't be necessary. We see very few engine failures at our shop. When we do, it's usually because the owners drove the cars into high water and bent a rod or two. Mercedes don't make good wet vacs but we still booked over 100 flood cars due to the recent storms in our area.
Even when a flood car bends rods, the rest of the engine looks perfect. No blown out blocks or damaged heads.

These are well built motors. I wouldn't worry about the extended drain intervals recommended by DCX.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by feets
I work at an MB dealer parts counter. The largest MB parts dealer in the central US as a matter of fact ($20+ million in parts sales last year).
If your Chrysler dealer is still raping you with the filter, go to any MB dealer and pick up filter 000-180-26-09 (book list $18.50) and it'll be fine.
The AMG cars (as in SRT-6) use 10,000 mile oil drain intervals and the standard MB cars with the 112 engine (non-SRT XF) use 15,000 mile intervals.
Change it at 3,000 if you like, but it shouldn't be necessary. We see very few engine failures at our shop. When we do, it's usually because the owners drove the cars into high water and bent a rod or two. Mercedes don't make good wet vacs but we still booked over 100 flood cars due to the recent storms in our area.
Even when a flood car bends rods, the rest of the engine looks perfect. No blown out blocks or damaged heads.

These are well built motors. I wouldn't worry about the extended drain intervals recommended by DCX.
THANKS FEETS FOR THE WORDS OF WISDOM.

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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Is that number you specified for a fleece or paper filter?
Do you know why they phased out the paper one?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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That's a fleece filter. I don't recall us using a paper filter in those motors in several years.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by feets
That's a fleece filter. I don't recall us using a paper filter in those motors in several years.
There have been three types of filters used on the Crossfire since it was introduced. The first couple of years the paper filters were used. It has been only in the past year or so they switched from paper to fleece and now the new one where the cap comes attached to the filter. The MB SLK 320 also switched from paper to the fleece filter according to several MB dealerships here in town.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ben47
There have been three types of filters used on the Crossfire since it was introduced. The first couple of years the paper filters were used. It has been only in the past year or so they switched from paper to fleece and now the new one where the cap comes attached to the filter. The MB SLK 320 also switched from paper to the fleece filter according to several MB dealerships here in town.
Ya know, this is terribly confusing to me. I just ordered a filter from NewMoparParts.com. They are sending me the "new"...for $14.95. It is supposed to arrive this Tuesday. I am real anxious to see what I am being sent. I know it's not the paper one. Geeze...I really hate this.





 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cissy
Ya know, this is terribly confusing to me. I just ordered a filter from NewMoparParts.com. They are sending me the "new"...for $14.95. It is supposed to arrive this Tuesday. I am real anxious to see what I am being sent. I know it's not the paper one. Geeze...I really hate this.
Okay, let me try to explain. When the Crossfire was first introduced it used a paper oil filter which sold for about $9.00 at most dealerships. Then they went to a new one which they call a fleece filter and that sold for $18.50. Now they have come out with yet a third filter which is fleece but with the oil cap attached... this was going to sell in the $60.00 range. DC quickly dropped the price back down to $18.50. Although the newest filter is fleece, it is not the same build as the previous one.

Sorry I don't have a photo of the newest filter with cap attached, but see the attachment below for the old ones.

Be careful what you ordered at that website. If you just type in "oil filter" in the search block, it comes back $9.25... their price is $7.40. I presume that is the old paper filter.

Now, if you do the search by P/N which is 5102905-AB, that is the old style fleece filter which they list at $18.50... their price is $14.80.

Unless the shipping was free, it sounds as like they sold you the old paper filter. I was going to order the fleece filter awhile back but with shipping it was still cheaper to buy it from the dealer for $18.50 plus tax.

Hope this helped and let us know which one you got.

* I couldn't get the attachment to load, sorry. Check post #2 in this thread to view them... https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...3162#post73162
 

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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ben47
Okay, let me try to explain. When the Crossfire was first introduced it used a paper oil filter which sold for about $9.00 at most dealerships. Then they went to a new one which they call a fleece filter and that sold for $18.50. Now they have come out with yet a third filter which is fleece but with the oil cap attached... this was going to sell in the $60.00 range. DC quickly dropped the price back down to $18.50. Although the newest filter is fleece, it is not the same build as the previous one.

Sorry I don't have a photo of the newest filter with cap attached, but see the attachment below for the old ones.

Be careful what you ordered at that website. If you just type in "oil filter" in the search block, it comes back $9.25... their price is $7.40. I presume that is the old paper filter.

Now, if you do the search by P/N which is 5102905-AB, that is the old style fleece filter which they list at $18.50... their price is $14.80.

Unless the shipping was free, it sounds as like they sold you the old paper filter. I was going to order the fleece filter awhile back but with shipping it was still cheaper to buy it from the dealer for $18.50 plus tax.

Hope this helped and let us know which one you got.

* I couldn't get the attachment to load, sorry. Check post #2 in this thread to view them...
At first, on that website, they DID list the old paper filter. However, they contacted me saying Chrysler replaced the old paper one and that they are sending me the new one...which ends in AB. So, I should be ok...darn it anyway. LOL
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Wow! $60 for a fleece oil filter. I think when they said fleece they may have meant:

a) swindle
b) con
c) rip off
d) cheat
e) take somebody for a ride

These are definitions for fleece on MS Word.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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waiting for chrysler to give me a verdict on my vibration issue tomorrow, i went to MB to pickup the filter and also oil...

it cost 18 and change...the oil broke out to 8 per qt...

i got to speak with the parts manager their, SAM and he introduced me to 2 techs there. they told me MB switched oil filters as well because the "norm" in oil changing with BENZ doesn't mean an automatic filter change. so it is about longevity of the filter...

they also service/change the 0/40 synth every 10,000 miles in their customer's cars...

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by catman
Wow! $60 for a fleece oil filter. I think when they said fleece they may have meant:

a) swindle
b) con
c) rip off
d) cheat
e) take somebody for a ride

These are definitions for fleece on MS Word.
I'd like to add a new definition: Bend Over.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Hello everyone,

Re: Oil Filter

I went to a Mercedes dealer today and spoke to a Master Tech about the Mercedes SLK 320...which is the same engine and drive-train as our Crossfire. He told me that Mercedes changed from the paper oil filter to the fleece oil filter in 2001...because the synthetic Mobil 1 oil was breaking down the filter...and its been the fleece filter ever since. Parts department sells it for $20.00.

Also...he said recommended oil change service on the slk 320 is every 14,000 miles!

Hope this helps.

 
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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I work for a DC company and have access to MB parts and when I tried to order the MB number it changed to 51020905AB. I did not order it because I wasn't sure if it was the paper or fleece filter. Does anyone know? And I would question 14,000 miles.
 
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Old May 5, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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Was at dealership yesterday, with unrelated problem. Service manager wanted to do oil change. I declined as there is still 8,300 km on the FSS. I asked about the oil filters and was advised they were still the paper element. I asked about any recall or replacement fleece element filters and he had no idea what i was talking about. My problem required the dealership to telephone DC Australia pacific. They had no idea about the fleece filters either. All they could come up with, was a temperature variation between the US and Aust must be the reason for the change in the US??? How can you respond to logic like that?
 
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Old May 5, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ausfire
Was at dealership yesterday, with unrelated problem. Service manager wanted to do oil change. I declined as there is still 8,300 km on the FSS. I asked about the oil filters and was advised they were still the paper element. I asked about any recall or replacement fleece element filters and he had no idea what i was talking about. My problem required the dealership to telephone DC Australia pacific. They had no idea about the fleece filters either. All they could come up with, was a temperature variation between the US and Aust must be the reason for the change in the US??? How can you respond to logic like that?
WOW! They tell us up here that the paper deteriorates quicker as some MB SLK engines have had the filter break up causing engine seizure!

They told me it was MB's call not Chrysler's. MB's practice is to keep the oil filter in for 10,000 miles. Some MB owners change the oil before the 10,000 miles but the dealer keeps the same filter in!!

Cheers

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Old May 5, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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Fleece oil filter available from http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com

I just bought two of them, only comes with the one top O ring though, so don't discard the other three rings when you change it. Can't find my invoice, but I think it was $12.95 +/- ea.
 
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Old May 5, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HDDP
Fleece oil filter available from http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com

I just bought two of them, only comes with the one top O ring though, so don't discard the other three rings when you change it. Can't find my invoice, but I think it was $12.95 +/- ea.
Derek, I ordered 3 of the fleece filters from http://www.moparpart.com they all had all of the O rings. The price was about the same, the best I remember. Poor quality control...maybe...or someone picking the box???
 
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Old May 5, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Derek, I ordered 3 of the fleece filters from http://www.moparpart.com they all had all of the O rings. The price was about the same, the best I remember. Poor quality control...maybe...or someone picking the box???
Who knows. I only opened one of the two boxes to change my oil yesterday... They have been sitting on my shelf for a week or so... This one only had the single top O ring, which surprised me since this was the first fleece filter I received and the first with only one O ring.

Ten oil and filter changes thus far (20k miles). But I'm running the car hard and after two track days the oil is BLACK. 8 qts. of 40W Redline Racing oil with 1 pint of MMO.

I put a quart of MMO in the engine 24 hours before changing the oil, that may be why the oil comes out so black. MMO is believed to remove the carbon deposits in the cylinder heads.
 
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Old May 13, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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I just bought a filter and it was made of Italian leather...lol

The last filter I bought was the fleece style and it was $12.95 from a dealer (same one I bought my car from). I've been changing my oil every 7k and the condition of the oil is looking like it is still good.

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