downwardspiral if you look at the mb arts camber bars they are curved and adjustable. the biggest issue is the price at 400$ approx. but a very nice well made set

 

They are nice, but I don't see how they can be adjusted without removal. They have 1 rod end, so the whole bar would need to spin to make it longer. I am considering having the car aligned and CNC machining a solid set to the desired length. I am drawn to the 4140 steel because it would cost me $20 and 20 minutes to make lol.

 

Excuse my ignorance but I thought steel was harder than aluminum, my mistake I guess. I was not talking of tensile strength.

Well, the way I see it is that if we had left and right hand threads on the arm as the adjustable straight ones do, without removing it but just loosening the nuts would allow you to swing the curved arm through 360 degrees and effectively change the length by two pitches of the thread. If that was too much then one end would be removed and one end turned 180, 360 or 540 degrees as required. Almost too simple.

Before I forget, infinite adjustment can be made on one end using a stud with nuts either side of a bent rod with a boss on the end. Imagine a 'C' clamp with a through hole rather than a thread.



Obviously an adjustable one is better than a solid one. Once the correct length is found a solid one could be made.

 

Oh my goodness! Velociabstract says! Well it's true, if you lower 1 1/2" or more in the rear you "could" have a problem with fat, straight aftermarket camber arms making contact with the sway bar. The result is the sway bar is pushed upwards and makes contact with the body seam. I ended up using a grinding wheel and enlarging the indentation made by the sway bar in the seam. I like the slimmer camber arms myself but unless your real low ...... It wasn't an unsafe situation just an eye opening what's that clunking one.

Les

 

Dave, I don't think you could rotate an adjustable bent arm 180° without it hitting the sway bar during rotation. But then I don't see it a problem to disconnect one end to get the proper length for a good alignment.

James

 

Before I discovered adjustable links it was suggested to me to cut the stock arms and adding an "adjuster" somewhere in the arm. I need to know more of these types.

Les

 

You are sooo right, a senior moment, I have lots of those.
Tell the truth I've never looked at that area.

 

MB Arts - Adjustable Rear Camber Arms (R170)

 

I don't like those arms because they are skinniest in the center; where the maximum bending moment and contact will occur. They are also aluminum, which I am trying to get away from, although it is 6061. I will be happy with my cheap 4140 alloy lol. I like being able to adjust the bars without jacking the car up, and Im sure the alignment shop would have a much easier time with the bars that wouldn't require the car to come down from the rack every time an adjustment must be made. I will see how the new ones behave, and would like to take measurements when the car is properly aligned.. This way I will make draw the arms in inventor in case I need to cut solid ones at a later date.

and 180.. yes steel is harder than aluminum, I was just being a smartass . My problem is related to the softness of aluminum, and my concern is that the cross sectional area of the bar will decrease, and the bar will bend and eventually break. For a $20 fix (compared to $300+) it makes perfect sense to me.The increased strength would allow a smaller cross sectional area, so I can turn the bars down a little for added clearence while keeping them stronger than 6061 aluminum; or even stainless steel, which other top of the line bars are made from.

 

Like this? I'm truly not worried of failure in action.

 

The Holy Grail for this is, of course, offset rod ends. I've been pondering this for a couple of weeks. I just don't know if I would trust a welded assembly. One piece forged would be soooo nice.

Similar to these:

http://bloxracing.com/shop/index.php...product_id=221

But steel. The ones shown are steel, but 10 mm cross bolt. No others available.

And they seem to be welded.

 

I think Dave is envisioning a bend only to offset the materials own thickness. Maybe 5 degrees or so. You would be stuck with a one-turn adjustment modulus, or, in my case 2 X 1/18" per turn. One thread module per end per turn. Full turns only.

 

You could use these arms..... they are 7/8" stainless..... and priced at $195....
For camber arm install instructions see the attached .doc file.....

 

Anyone know where I can get a set of camber arms? And possible front bolts? Thanks

 

If you want the MB bolts....any MB dealer will have them... I will have to go find my set and get the number..but they only have a couple tenths of a degree fixed adjustment...
the Kmac front camber kit would be the better option as it will give you plenty of adjustment...

I posted my email in another thread for you about camber arms....

 

Does anyone know if these would work, they are a sold for W203 C-Class (2001-07) fitment, I'm thinking the Crossfire shares rear suspension components with that chassis. They don't mention a center-to-center length. They also list a later C-Class arm that is curved to clear a sway bar probably.
They will need a coat of flat black paint.
Megan Racing

 

Les, looks like these would be the ideal design for adjustable rear cambers. These are sold for the W203 C63, but I can't find any specs on anything made by Top Speed. They apparently allow -1.5 to +5 which should work great if they are 12" centers and 1/2" bolts.

Mike S

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Nice find! I wonder if they'd work.

Les

 

I'll see if anyone over on Benzworld has tried these and can give some precise measurements. Should solve any clearance problems with the sway for sure! Keeping fingers crossed.
Megan even makes them in pink...

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Mike S