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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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I'm not 😌and what's a PITA??
As MrMiata previously stated, a P I T A look is a "pain in the A**" look
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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As MrMiata previously stated, a P I T A look is a "pain in the A**" look
Ohhhhh....DUH.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Ohhhhh....DUH.
Umm.. Natural blonde?

Sorry.. had to.. LOL.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Umm.. Natural blonde?

Sorry.. had to.. LOL.
I almost added that I wasn't blonde! Should have known by now you'd jump on it 😁
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 02:25 PM
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Just look at it as the "after celebration" when an issue is resolved..
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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So I take the car over today to an auto place that works on foreign car to have the check the "torque" on the wheels and they found that they were torqued to 125-130 They torqued them all to 82 for me and checked the air. When they did that they found that the front left was WAY low..like 20lbs. He told me it could be that they did something to the tire or wheel..something possibly with the 'beads'. We also discussed the TPMS and the fact that the light has still not gone off although all four should be functioning now. He told me *he says he's a wheel/tire guy" that although a crossfire should reset itself, that that may not be the case when the tire and wheel have been replaced. He suggested that they would need to be set to the tire. VERY heavy sigh You guys are my heros ... with all the information and direction you've given me so thanks again. So I'm thinking I give the tire a day or so and check the air and if it's low again that would mean that Tire and Wheel Connection screwed up the tire or wheel and they need to be responsible for replacing it. Thoughts..advice on all of this?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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Um.. make me a bargain on your problem child? LOL.

Okay.. yes they need to fix things if it's not holding air.. the TPM has rubber seals.. wonder if "by chance" one was damaged causing your slow leak. As far as the light on the dash.. Unless your tire shop was able to "clone" the ID of the replaced module.. well bad news.. its a trip to the dealer to tap into the main brain of the car to set it to recognize the "ID" of the new module. A little dish soap/water at the valve stem will let you know if its leaking there real fast..and then if you have put it in a spray bottle use it around the wheel - tire to check the seal.

Keep us updated...
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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CG, it is entirely possible that a previous owner did the mod to the HomeLink/TPMS wiring that makes it NOT turn on the light. This is a common mod, in that it costs nothing whereas replacing all the TPMS units is like peeing in a cash drawer ( it could run into money )
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by alaxfire
CG, it is entirely possible that a previous owner did the mod to the HomeLink/TPMS wiring that makes it NOT turn on the light. This is a common mod, in that it costs nothing whereas replacing all the TPMS units is like peeing in a cash drawer ( it could run into money )
I do believe earlier in the thread a bad sensor had been determined and she had already picked one up at the dealer for replacement at "New Wheels" install. Her Light is lit up currently. The only car I've heard "autolearning" a different TPM has been an 05 SRT6 ..
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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I do believe earlier in the thread a bad sensor had been determined and she had already picked one up at the dealer for replacement at "New Wheels" install. Her Light is lit up currently. The only car I've heard "autolearning" a different TPM has been an 05 SRT6 ..
O, OK then
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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Well fortunately I don't have a problem child unless you count my daughter slicing her finger open today while cleaning a butcher knife and having to run her to the ER to get it stitched up.

I will give the spray bottle a whirl tomorrow and see what happens, but something must be wrong.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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Well fortunately I don't have a problem child unless you count my daughter slicing her finger open today while cleaning a butcher knife and having to run her to the ER to get it stitched up.

I will give the spray bottle a whirl tomorrow and see what happens, but something must be wrong.
You"ll probably find a slow leak..

and More advice..super glue to the rescue.. LOL. Smashed my finger with a boat trailer.. "thought" I had it on the ball hitch.. slipped off and smashed my finger.. basically "blew" it open..super glue.. elect. tape.. and off to the lake.. LOL..
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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When the tires were changed the left rims should have stayed on the left side of the car, likewise the right rims. The TPM sensors are set to specific corners of the car with the gizmo that sets them up. Putting a right in a left position will trigger the light, that's what I have picked up from various sources, true or not I do not really know. To check, switch the tires and take a very short trip. If the light does not go out in a minute or so then it's another problem.

Relearning has been mentioned but I think it is not proved at all.
I do think a left rear tire from my car will not trigger a light on another crossfire if placed in the left rear position, providing it was the same part numbered sensor. The sensors are set while on the car, otherwise they could be set in the box and put anywhere. Later sensing systems can identify which tire is low in pressure. I think our sensors could do that but the receiver is not equipped to do it.


This is all I have gathered as I know nothing concrete at all. It appears to be a trade secret so dealers and the like can commit highway robbery.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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The sensors are set while on the car, otherwise they could be set in the box and put anywhere. Later sensing systems can identify which tire is low in pressure. I think our sensors could do that but the receiver is not equipped to do it.

This is all I have gathered as I know nothing concrete at all. It appears to be a trade secret so dealers and the like can commit highway robbery.
Wife's Tahoe only knows what you tell it.. it currently tells you "Right front 25 psi".. actually when checked it is the right rear.. Tires were rotated front to back before we purchased it.. obviously.. and never programmed accordingly. But it does have the ability for the owner to do so.. it's in the manual.. wife can read..and push buttons.. but I guess she's good with it.. LOL Point here being it has no way to identify wheel location.. only where you tell it.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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Wife's Tahoe only knows what you tell it.. it currently tells you "Right front 25 psi".. actually when checked it is the right rear.. Tires were rotated front to back before we purchased it.. obviously.. and never programmed accordingly. But it does have the ability for the owner to do so.. it's in the manual.. wife can read..and push buttons.. but I guess she's good with it.. LOL Point here being it has no way to identify wheel location.. only where you tell it.
Our system is set LF, RF, RR and LR in that order so it is told where each sensor is. It may only switch a light on but the receiver does store a lot of info in its memory and it is accessible with the DRB tool.

The signals are sent every minute or so over 20mph and scans for irregularities in the signals.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Our system is set LF, RF, RR and LR in that order so it is told where each sensor is. It may only switch a light on but the receiver does store a lot of info in its memory and it is accessible with the DRB tool.

The signals are sent every minute or so over 20mph and scans for irregularities in the signals.
Well to summarize my story..place where I ordered the new wheels told me rl TPMS was non functioning so I ran to dealer and purchased new one. When new wheels came in I gave it to then to install when putting on new wheels. When TPMS light did not go off I ran by Discount tire and they told me that rr TPMS was non functioning now. Called place that installed new wheels and informed them of this. They gave me functioning TPMS which I took to discount to put on. They said reason the rr was no functioning was that they had broken it and gave to me to show them. I have no idea if they dumped all the tpm sensors in a box when they removed the old wheels. So if your theory is correct each TPMS would have to be moved from one tire to another to figure out if it's in the correct tire?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
You"ll probably find a slow leak..

and More advice..super glue to the rescue.. LOL. Smashed my finger with a boat trailer.. "thought" I had it on the ball hitch.. slipped off and smashed my finger.. basically "blew" it open..super glue.. elect. tape.. and off to the lake.. LOL..
Well did the spray on all four tires/wheels/values and nothing. The FL that was at 20 and put to 36 is at 22 this morning. The other two are at 34 and the third at 35 which I'm thinking is normal. Will be heading out shortly to Tire and Wheel Connection. Will be watching for the PITa look..HAHA although the only legitimate one that will be given will be on my end. Going to mention that they had they torqued way to much. Using my new word ya'll taught me! And OUCH on your finger!!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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Wife's Tahoe only knows what you tell it.. it currently tells you "Right front 25 psi".. actually when checked it is the right rear.. Tires were rotated front to back before we purchased it.. obviously.. and never programmed accordingly. But it does have the ability for the owner to do so.. it's in the manual.. wife can read..and push buttons.. but I guess she's good with it.. LOL Point here being it has no way to identify wheel location.. only where you tell it.
I just called our local Chrysler Dodge dealer and spoke with their service department. They are telling me that it doesn't matter that I got new tires/wheels that it should be reset if they are all functioning. Doesn't matter which tire they are on. I'm heading to discount tire first to have them check to see if they say they are all working and then heading to Tire and Wheel Connection. Must say I'm getting reawlly tired of all of this!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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I just called our local Chrysler Dodge dealer and spoke with their service department. They are telling me that it doesn't matter that I got new tires/wheels that it should be reset if they are all functioning. Doesn't matter which tire they are on. I'm heading to discount tire first to have them check to see if they say they are all working and then heading to Tire and Wheel Connection. Must say I'm getting reawlly tired of all of this!

Didn't think our TPMS included GPS tracking for wheel location.. I've been on another forum where they "Pipe Bomb" them.. Pvc canister storage - pressurized and tossed in the trunk. At least when I start having issues with mine I can reflect on your saga and smile.. LoL.. Now I'd have to wonder if you haven't found a nail with the leaker - or still possibly tire-wheel seal on the inside..
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Didn't think our TPMS included GPS tracking for wheel location.. I've been on another forum where they "Pipe Bomb" them.. Pvc canister storage - pressurized and tossed in the trunk. At least when I start having issues with mine I can reflect on your saga and smile.. LoL.. Now I'd have to wonder if you haven't found a nail with the leaker - or still possibly tire-wheel seal on the inside..
Just left discount tire and fl was down to 26lbs so he put to 35. He was kind enough to take the time to print out info on TPMS in 2005 which says if it is replaced .. The dealer has to reset it. If tires are rotated it sets itself so looks like I get to spend more $$$. Heading to tire and wheel to have fl tire checked to see why I'm loosing air. What a fun morning!!
 
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