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Old May 27, 2021 | 10:46 AM
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It is a money-pit to replace/fix the OEM TPMS, many have just bypassed the TPMS module behind the dome light assembly and used the old fashioned tire gauge (some even went to the cigg lighter aftermarket TPMS). Costs hundreds of dollars to service dead battery TPMS sensors, not for me.


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Old May 27, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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Thank you for your reply and I am feeling the pain but maybe for not much longer we shall see.
Where did you get your chirping siren from? Are they still available?
Thank You!
 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc78
Thank you for your reply and I am feeling the pain but maybe for not much longer we shall see.
Where did you get your chirping siren from? Are they still available?
Thank You!
I just purchased a siren at Needswings. NeedsWings Performance Products. Updated OEM Alarm Siren They work good and they do chirp.
I can also sympathize with your TPMS experience with the dealer. i had a similar experience. Charged me $75 to reprogram my new sensors to my TPMS. But they couldn't do anything other than want to charge me another $300 (parts only) for something i didn't need and that they wouldn't guarantee would fix the problem. That's when i said enough! Purchased the necessary equipment and did the work myself.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc78
Thank you for your reply and I am feeling the pain but maybe for not much longer we shall see.
Where did you get your chirping siren from? Are they still available?
Thank You!
I wanted to update all on this issue so you know what happened. I'll start by saying it is repaired and repaired the right way. Note the cost associated with it makes the story.
So I ordered the OEM sensors from EBAY and they were the right ones. They cost me about $70 a piece.
The stealership told me that all the sensors(4) I had originally in the tires were wrong and did not communicate with the TMPS module($180). So I ordered the sensors as stated above. ($280).
Took it back to the stealership and one of the sensors I bought from EBAY was "bad" so It was either I take their sensor($140) or bring it back with the last sensor and pay an additional $180 for the install and configuration.
Then the sensor nuts were wrong on the ones I got from EBAY. This was an additional ($60). $15 A piece.
Total out the door price
Sensors=$280+$140=$420-$70 =$350 (I returned the bad sensor to the EBAY dealer that would honor the warranty).
Sensor Nuts=$60($15 a piece).
Labor =$360 2 hours at $180.
Total=$770ish plus with out the car for around 4 days.
This is why I work on my own cars! If I had the tire machine I would have done it myself. I loathe this situation. I wanted to put it down on paper so that others can learn from my experience.
Now I will list the part numbers for the sensors and nuts (OEM).
Two part numbers are listed for the sensors on page 287 2005 Parts list.
1) 05134930AA
2) 05142340AA
Sensor Nuts have just one part number listed on page 287 2005 Parts list.
1) 52088961AA
I do attempt to be thorough. I know there are aftermarket sensors listed on this forum some from Autel MX-2 in 1 thank you Maggy55. and Schrader multiple part numbers .
Autel has a sensor tool that is recommended MAXITPMS sensor pad Sensor Programming Handheld Accessory Device thank you Maggy55.

Lessons learned.
Go with the Schrader #33500 aluminum stem/ Schrader#33700 is preferred in climates that corrosion is an issue. Thank you 180. These sensors works in both the 315 MHz and 433MHz wavebands and thus serves all Crossfires which can have sensors of either band.​​​​​​ And can be purchased at Tire Rack in the US.($39 a piece).
It does not have to be programmed by the DRBIII tool! Local tire stores can program this one as well to my knowledge.
I hope I informed all in what options are available and the price associated with each based on region and tire store/stealership.
UPDATE:
Schrader 20028 (20.99 each) or 20096 (24.79 each) and the dealership can program. Thank you RonMan.(My dealer would only install OEM parts)
Or just unhook the TMPS wire and get the pressure tester that will tell you from $1-$3. Thank you GraphiteGhost.
I do like a one stop shop for this info keep it coming and ill update. There is so much knowledge and experience on here. This forum is amazing!
 

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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc78
I wanted t update all on this issue so you know what happened. I'll start by saying it is repaired and repaired the right way. Note the cost associated with it makes the story.
So I ordered the OEM sensors from EBAY and they were the right ones. They cost me about $70 a piece.
The stealership told me that all the sensors(4) I had originally in the tires were wrong and did not communicate with the TMPS module($180). So I ordered the sensors as stated above. ($280).
Took it back to the stealership and one of the sensors I bought from EBAY was "bad" so It was either I take their sensor($140) or bring it back with the last sensor and pay an additional 180 for the install and configuration.
Then the sensor nuts were wrong on the ones I got from EBAY. This was an additional ($60). $15 A piece.
Total out the door price
Sensors=$280+$140=$420-$70 =$350 (I returned the bad sensor to the EBAY dealer that would honor the warranty).
Sensor Nuts=$60($15 a piece).
Labor =$360 2 hours at $180.
Total=$770ish plus with out the car for around 4 days.
This is why I work on my own cars! If I had the tire machine I would have done it myself. I loathe this situation. I wanted to put it down on paper so that others can learn from my experience.
Now I will list the part numbers for the sensors and nuts (OEM).
Two part numbers are listed for the sensors on page 287 2005 Parts list.
1) 05134930AA
2) 05142340AA
Sensor Nuts have just one part number listed on page 287 2005 Parts list.
1) 52088961AA
I do attempt to be thorough. I know there are aftermarket sensors listed on this forum some from Autel and Schrader.
Lessons learned.
Go with the Schrader #33500 This sensor works in both the 315 MHz and 433MHz wavebands and thus serves all Crossfires which can have sensors of either band.​​​​​​ And can be purchased at Tire Rack in the US.($39 a piece).
It does not have to be programmed by the DRBIII tool! Local tire stores can program this one as well to my knowledge.
I hope I informed all in what options are available and the price associated with each based on region and tire store/stealership.
I believe the Schrader number is 33700, that is the 33500 assembly with the aluminum stem.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc78
I wanted to update all on this issue so you know what happened. I'll start by saying it is repaired and repaired the right way. Note the cost associated with it makes the story.
So I ordered the OEM sensors from EBAY and they were the right ones. They cost me about $70 a piece.
The stealership told me that all the sensors(4) I had originally in the tires were wrong and did not communicate with the TMPS module($180). So I ordered the sensors as stated above. ($280).
Took it back to the stealership and one of the sensors I bought from EBAY was "bad" so It was either I take their sensor($140) or bring it back with the last sensor and pay an additional $180 for the install and configuration.
Then the sensor nuts were wrong on the ones I got from EBAY. This was an additional ($60). $15 A piece.
Total out the door price
Sensors=$280+$140=$420-$70 =$350 (I returned the bad sensor to the EBAY dealer that would honor the warranty).
Sensor Nuts=$60($15 a piece).
Labor =$360 2 hours at $180.
Total=$770ish plus with out the car for around 4 days.
This is why I work on my own cars! If I had the tire machine I would have done it myself. I loathe this situation. I wanted to put it down on paper so that others can learn from my experience.
Now I will list the part numbers for the sensors and nuts (OEM).
Two part numbers are listed for the sensors on page 287 2005 Parts list.
1) 05134930AA
2) 05142340AA
Sensor Nuts have just one part number listed on page 287 2005 Parts list.
1) 52088961AA
I do attempt to be thorough. I know there are aftermarket sensors listed on this forum some from Autel and Schrader.
Lessons learned.
Go with the Schrader #33500 This sensor works in both the 315 MHz and 433MHz wavebands and thus serves all Crossfires which can have sensors of either band.​​​​​​ And can be purchased at Tire Rack in the US.($39 a piece).
It does not have to be programmed by the DRBIII tool! Local tire stores can program this one as well to my knowledge.
I hope I informed all in what options are available and the price associated with each based on region and tire store/stealership.
You could have just ordered Schrader 20028 (20.99 each) or 20096 (24.79 each) and the dealership would have programmed with no issues. I don't understand why you paid $70 each?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 03:10 PM
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Bypass the TPMS module yourself, Free. Buy an inexpensive tire pressure gauge, $1-3 dollars. Getting rid of the TPMS nightmare... PRICELESS! LOL


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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronman
You could have just ordered Schrader 20028 (20.99 each) or 20096 (24.79 each) and the dealership would have programmed with no issues. I don't understand why you paid $70 each?
I did not know about those part numbers thank you for the info. I will add those to the listing I have above.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 04:12 PM
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Ok, I have been told this will work, but only if the TPMS oem sensors are still working. Have the sensors read at a tire place, record the serial numbers and the tire position of each one. When the OEM sensors die you can use the serial numbers to program new ones. The car will think they are the same sensor. I bought these for $128 and already programmed them.

Autel MX-Sensor 2 in 1 (315MHz + 433MHz)(Screw-in) 100% Cloneable TPMS Programmable Sensors for Tire Pressure Monitoring System(Metal Valves,Set of 4 Pieces)

i used this to read my old ones and program the new ones, only works with Autel MX-Sensors

Autel MaxiTPMS PAD Sensor Programming Handheld Accessory Device to Diagnose OE TPMS Sensors, Exclusively Program MX-Sensor with Easy Using Steps, Plug & Play

I have not had to actually replace them yet, so I can't guarantee this. Probably someone smarter than me can confirm, 180 ?
 

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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by maggy55
Ok, I have been told this will work, but only if the TPMS oem sensors are still working. Have the sensors read at a tire place, record the serial numbers and the tire position of each one. When the OEM sensors die you can use the serial numbers to program new ones. The car will think they are the same sensor. I bought these for $128 and already programmed them.

Autel MX-Sensor 2 in 1 (315MHz + 433MHz)(Screw-in) 100% Cloneable TPMS Programmable Sensors for Tire Pressure Monitoring System(Metal Valves,Set of 4 Pieces)

i used this to read my old ones and program the new ones, only works with Autel MX-Sensors

Autel MaxiTPMS PAD Sensor Programming Handheld Accessory Device to Diagnose OE TPMS Sensors, Exclusively Program MX-Sensor with Easy Using Steps, Plug & Play

I have not had to actually replace them yet, so I can't guarantee this. Probably someone smarter than me can confirm, 180 ?
Thanks for the compliment, but l claim to be as smart as a sack of hammers that can read and at times throw in a bit of common sense and experience.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronman
You could have just ordered Schrader 20028 (20.99 each) or 20096 (24.79 each) and the dealership would have programmed with no issues. I don't understand why you paid $70 each?
I just remembered why I didn't go with an aftermarket sensor. My dealer would only install OEM parts.
Thanks for the information I added it above.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2021 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc78
I just remembered why I didn't go with an aftermarket sensor. My dealer would only install OEM parts.
Thanks for the information I added it above.
Post #2 had one of the part numbers I had mentioned. You could have gone to the tire shop that installed your tires (assuming it was not the dealership) and they might have installed them for free/low cost or you could have still gone to any tire shop and they would have installed them at a lower price than the dealership. The dealership would not be able to see what sensor is in there and then program them. In the end you would have saved money on the cost of the sensors and not paying the dealership to install them only program them. Discount tire has not charged me in the past to change out the sensors or sometimes for something like this they will only charge $5.00 a tire labor.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2021 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronman
Post #2 had one of the part numbers I had mentioned. You could have gone to the tire shop that installed your tires (assuming it was not the dealership) and they might have installed them for free/low cost or you could have still gone to any tire shop and they would have installed them at a lower price than the dealership. The dealership would not be able to see what sensor is in there and then program them. In the end you would have saved money on the cost of the sensors and not paying the dealership to install them only program them. Discount tire has not charged me in the past to change out the sensors or sometimes for something like this they will only charge $5.00 a tire labor.
Ronman, You are absolutely right! I went too fast and did not weigh my options very well. I did call around and get quotes for taking all four tires off and putting new sensors in (OEM). They all told me the same thing that they did not have the DRBIII tool to do it. I however did not peruse the Schrader sensors or call or ask if the tire shops in my area could program them.I paid dearly for this mistake. I hope others learn from my mistake.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by maggy55
Ok, I have been told this will work, but only if the TPMS oem sensors are still working. Have the sensors read at a tire place, record the serial numbers and the tire position of each one. When the OEM sensors die you can use the serial numbers to program new ones. The car will think they are the same sensor. I bought these for $128 and already programmed them.

Autel MX-Sensor 2 in 1 (315MHz + 433MHz)(Screw-in) 100% Cloneable TPMS Programmable Sensors for Tire Pressure Monitoring System(Metal Valves,Set of 4 Pieces)

i used this to read my old ones and program the new ones, only works with Autel MX-Sensors

Autel MaxiTPMS PAD Sensor Programming Handheld Accessory Device to Diagnose OE TPMS Sensors, Exclusively Program MX-Sensor with Easy Using Steps, Plug & Play

I have not had to actually replace them yet, so I can't guarantee this. Probably someone smarter than me can confirm, 180 ?
Issue Autel uses to sway buyers to use their sensors. Their scanner tools will do the cloning of existing sensors, but requires user to install only Autel MX-Sensors (as you reported in your posting). But if you have the DRB3 Emulator, DRB scanner or Starscan equipment, you can use sensors from any source (that align with the model year & model of your Crossfire) & program the TPMS to read & store the new sensor information. I have the Autel TS501 scanner tool. I have mixed sensors on my car (DS - OEM sensors; PS - VDO REDI-Sensors) and there were no issues "triggering" the sensors with the Autel TS501 and the DRB3 Emulator storing the data in the TPMS module. And no magnet was required - Autel scanner tool provides the RF signal to the sensor to "trigger" it.
 

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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 09:20 AM
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~ I am told by Schrader that the O.E.M. 20028 TPMS has been superceded by Schrader 20096. Can someone verify this?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 10:35 AM
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To be honest, I decided the factory OEM sensors aren't worth the effort. They don't tell you much, only when the PSI drops below a set psi, not even which tire is low.

For $60, you can get a aftermarket TPMS that tells you the exact current pressure and even tire temps of all 4 tires at all times. You can even set tire pressure & temp warnings (both low and high) to whatever you want. The head unit is solar charged, small and can be placed anywhere, everything is wireless and super accurate and takes only about 5-10 minutes to setup.

Get one of those and use the DIY instructions on this forum to turn off the warning light on the dash and you are set. I can understand using the factory unit if you want your car original, but if not, this way is less of a headache, money and better capabilities and features.
 

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Old Apr 23, 2023 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SD Crossfire
To be honest, I decided the factory OEM sensors aren't worth the effort. They don't tell you much, only when the PSI drops below a set psi, not even which tire is low.

For $60, you can get a aftermarket TPMS that tells you the exact current pressure and even tire temps of all 4 tires at all times. You can even set tire pressure & temp warnings (both low and high) to whatever you want. The head unit is solar charged, small and can be placed anywhere, everything is wireless and super accurate and takes only about 5-10 minutes to setup.

Get one of those and use the DIY instructions on this forum to turn off the warning light on the dash and you are set. I can understand using the factory unit if you want your car original, but if not, this way is less of a headache, money and better capabilities and features.
Guy done mic dropped this whole thread. I'm just unplugging my tpms light and going wireless as suggested here! 😅🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️❤
 
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Old Apr 23, 2023 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ×Crossfire1×
Guy done mic dropped this whole thread. I'm just unplugging my tpms light and going wireless as suggested here! 😅🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️❤
Still my best mod to date

Just note that all the units work similar, including the factory one in my new RAM, that tire pressure/temp will update once you start driving, say about 50 yards or so. When it turns on the next day of driving, it will still show the pressure and temp from the last time you drove, but they usually quickly synchronize after driving a little bit.

Also, the batteries are cheap and easy to replace, there is one in each sensor, so no worries there. I don't think you need to rebalance your tires after installing, I've installed these kits in all 3 of my old vehicles and 1 motorcycle and didn't notice any balance issues even up to 90 mph.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2023 | 12:37 AM
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Figured I'd throw this in here too if anyone looking at this later is interested. I went through about 3 or 4 Android head units before deciding on one I liked. I plugged in a USB adapter with the internal TPMS Sensors.

Works great on my Android head unit and will display over other apps and tell you while you're driving if you're below or above a certain configurable threshold.

If you buy the USB and Sensors together they come already paired. If you need to replace a bad sensor you can enter the new ID.

If you already have an android Radio, it's not bad for $20.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtGg6s4


 
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