I have a 2005 Crossfire, I try starting it and after the second time it doesnt do anything, I took it to the shop and I was told it was the rcm, when I replaced that it didnt work so the shop owner told me the keys have to be programmed, so i did a little research and believe its the skreem, I sent it in to a place I read about on this forum , and now i was told the module is non repairable , and now they want the ecu and keys to close a circuit to see if the ecu and keys are bad, my question is if all of these things are bad will it still attempt to try and start, I am just trying to eliminate all the possible problems without sending all the parts in and wasting time

 

Contact Needswings for all you need including guidance.

 

He didn't want to hear it from me, let's hope he listens to you:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post909389

You can start as many threads as you want to, you will get the same disturbing answer:
Have the car towed home, order the SKREEM from Rob (NOT a DEALER) and change it.

If you don't want to do that, ask some shadetree mechanic/car guy to come over and help. All the info you need is on this forum, and Rob will also guide you.

 

You know what they say about horses, you can lead them to water but you can't make them drink.

 

I've contacted Rob last week about getting a new skreem module already and explained to him I got the car from an auction and didnt have the title yet and showed him the receipt with all the the cars information on and vin, So I seen a previous thread with a different company and tried him, and yesterday i was told to send additional stuff i dont want to do all that .So today I emailed Rob again and asked maybe if I could send him my old skreem so he would know it's my vehicle and that I'm in possession of it and he said he still needs the title. I mean if I sent him the old skreem isn't that enough proof it's not like I'm getting it programmed to a different vin

 

I would be willing to bet his "licensing" on keys and skreems is very specific on requirements.. not flexible at his discretion ..

 

 

I don't know that any information can be gotten from an old SCREEM? I know I purchased a spare and did not have to turn in my original. I believe the vin. number is programmed to the new one. The defective one has no value.

 

Wonder if there is a way to simply bypass the SKREEM (sentry key) module. I was going to buy a spare but do not know which car might need one.
FYI
The SKREEM retains in memory the ID numbers of any ignition key transponder that is programmed into it. For added system security each SKREEM is programmed with a unique secret key code. This code is stored in memory, sent over the CAN data bus to the PCM, and is encoded to the transponder of every ignition key that is programmed into the SKREEM.

In the event that a SKREEM replacement is required, the secret key code can be transferred to the new SKREEM from the PCM using the scan tool and the ignition key system replacement programming procedure. Proper completion of the ignition key system initialization will allow the existing ignition keys to be programmed into the new SKREEM so that new keys will not be required. In the event that the original secret key code cannot be recovered, SKREEM replacement will also require new ignition keys. The scan tool will alert the technician during the key reprogramming procedure if new ignition keys are required.

The sentry key system performs a self-test each time the ignition switch is turned to the ON/RUN position and will store fault information in the form of Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) in SKREEM memory if a system malfunction is detected. The SKREEM can be diagnosed and any stored DTCs can be retrieved using a scan tool. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.

 

You are right, sir. And this is why the rules are set in stone about how to order one. No exceptions will be made, it's in the contract with the vendor (as Greg said).
YOu can send your old one to Rob, but it can't be read, there is no way to prove what car it came out of if it does not work in the car intended.

Again, you can keep asking for things to change, but they won't. The rules are set in stone - several of us have been thru it. I just moved and am waiting for my Title so I can order a spare. YES, so many are failing, I'm ordering a spare.

 

My car sits in a garage all the time. I seldom leave it parked anywhere, therefore, I'd disable mine if I could.

But, the issue is that the ECU talks to the SKREEM and if it can't get an "OKy-DOkey" from the SKREEM, it won't let the engine run.
You'd need to get into the code of the ECU and modify it such that it does not expect the SKREEM's permission to run the engine.

And perhaps that is possible, but it is certainly out of my league.