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Old 12-18-2008, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Waynesworld
Bet your happy he didnt ticket you for the 120+
That might be a go to jail speed.
Radar Detectors are not as good as a jammer.
Soeer that you got a ticket.
Radar Jammers are ILLEGAL in ALL of the U.S.... FCC Regulations. Laser Jammers however vary by state.

Also Voyager, police officers do not have to get a reading on their laser gun to give you a ticket.
 
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 70GT6
Most detectors over $100 have this protection.

Look at Escort, Bel, or V1.
Usually are rated the best - there is not one that is the best at everything.
But you wont go wrong with these.
Nope. Do the homework. The detectors between ~$100-$200 claim protection from Radar Detector Detectors but... VG-2 Radar Detector Detectors are obsolete, no longer used, hence the feature offered by this unit is worthless... The detector they protect against is obsolete and no longer used by law enforcement...Not a very useful protection.

One choice for the most undetectible radar detector is the BEL STi Driver.


Here's my write-up


If cost is no object you can get a version that is installed in the grill and concealed - twice the price. And for another $1500 you can get a killer Laser Jammer (not yet illegal).

In my experience the STi Driver has not been detected, provides very long distance alerts, and has saved me from Laser (when I was behind a large group of traffic that were the target of a Laser trap before I reached it).

Not cheap but hugely outperforms the cheap stuff. And it's made in Canada!
 

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Old 12-19-2008, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by texas t
I Got A Ticket Coming Out Of A 10 Mph Corner At 48 Mph With My Sti Detector.


Detectors don't replace common sense and situational awareness.
 

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Old 12-19-2008, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ppro
Nope. Do the homework. The detectors between ~$100-$200 claim protection from Radar Detector Detectors but... VG-2 Radar Detector Detectors are obsolete, no longer used, hence the feature offered by this unit is worthless... The detector they protect against is obsolete and no longer used by law enforcement...Not a very useful protection.

One choice for the most undetectible radar detector is the BEL STi Driver.


Here's my write-up


If cost is no object you can get a version that is installed in the grill and concealed - twice the price. And for another $1500 you can get a killer Laser Jammer (not yet illegal).

In my experience the STi Driver has not been detected, provides very long distance alerts, and has saved me from Laser (when I was behind a large group of traffic that were the target of a Laser trap before I reached it).

Not cheap but hugely outperforms the cheap stuff. And it's made in Canada!
So does the Bel sti warn you about laser or jam it? Anyone run a Bel sti in Canada?
 
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Old 12-20-2008, 05:02 AM
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Warns of Laser. Jammer sold separately.
 
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:58 AM
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for laser jammer use laser interceptor.
 
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:13 AM
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Blinder works as well
 
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:25 AM
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Well, I wasn't going to comment, but RadarRoy doesn't really explain to you the whole truth on why those products work. Speed cameras are always on...therefore there is always a signal. Police officers setting on ramps, or in the median, or anywhere with there units on, are detectable. As I have stated many times when this subject comes up, there are officers, like myself, who will never patrol with the unit on, totally. Let me explain, we have a standby mode, when we truely see a speeder visually, then the thumb is quicker than your foot. Now, with that said, my signal is out there now for all to detect, but not the guy I just nailed...and, that is the only guy I wanted, so what did the detector really save? They are fine, for those areas that officers just set and leave it on, but they aren't fool proof. I will use 1 at the dragon next spring because the TN troopers have to leave theirs on because of the curves and such. But on straightaways, they could use the standby mode, and just wait for you. Jammers will not always defeat radar if the officer is good...he will get a phony reading at first, but if he is using his sound for tracking, which he should be, then he will know what is up, and nail you anyway...we are all trained to estimate speed visually in order to pass our tests for certification to operate our various units. I could also discuss VASCAR, which would blow your mind...no signal at all....just my .02
 

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One other observation for those of you who think it is the unit saving your butt. If I am radaring traffic from an elevated entrance ramp to an interstate. Here's what is going on. My unit is in standby mode...I watch for what I am in the mood for...70 mph zone. not looking for anything under 80mph. Many times I will see an 80, but do to the traffic congestion, I will not get a clear shot at him in order to get a "track"...other vehicles are in the way moving slower...in this situation, doesn't matter whether I have it on or not, thus many times, that speeder thinks he got away with it, which he did, but traffic saved his butt, not the detector...now, one on one...here I come, clear shot, clear track, can prove it in court...he's mine...this is truely what should happen, but there are officers who will take one in a group, or shoot the last car in a pack...I like to be able to testify I got the right guy. Now detectors will tell you I am setting up there doing my job once I engage a target, so they are useful, but not fool proof...
 
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:06 AM
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I could start a thread on "how to beat a speeding ticket" in court. Because, if everything isn't done correctly, courts will throw out those citations. There are standard procedures we must follow everyday while running traffic, and the units themselves have to be up to date, calibrated, and such...there are many ways to beat a citation if the officer didnt' do his job, or the dept didn't keep equip up...good luck with your purchases, but I would get a stealth unit, that isn't hanging in the window for all of us to see.
 
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Old 12-20-2008, 11:11 PM
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Will the detector work if i keep it near the ash tray?

Last question, is it illegal to "HAVE" a detector in canada or is it illegal to "USE" a detector in canada??
 
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Old 12-20-2008, 11:51 PM
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illegal whether used or not.

even i know that, and i only travel to Ontario.
 
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:49 AM
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lol, ok so if im going through customs they will take em away?

I cant believe they are illegal to have... they are not guns.
 
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Old 12-21-2008, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by manderson483
Will the detector work if i keep it near the ash tray?

Last question, is it illegal to "HAVE" a detector in canada or is it illegal to "USE" a detector in canada??
No and yes or yes
 
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Old 12-21-2008, 06:57 AM
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oledoc2u (as he well knows) is right on all counts.

General practice calls for enforcement to leave radar unit off until speed has been estimated. And I believe there is a requirement that estimated speed needs to be within a certain percent of radar-reported speed.

The rest of what he said is true too.

I look at my radar detector as another element in my approach to driving that prevents me from traveling too fast. I think that paying attention and driving the speed limit saves me more often than the detector.

When the detector saves me is those times when I am thinking about passing or making a move that would put me over the limit, but has warned me of the possibility of enforcement in the area.

But it can also save you if enforcement takes his radar out of standby with another target in mind, and you happen to be moving along too. It might give you just enough time to correct before you become the target...
 
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:55 AM
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visually average speed computer and recorder is my favorite unit ppro and thanks for the back up...vascar...puts out no signal at all, and I used to use it while moving most of the time, but it works very well up on entrance ramps...ever see those white lines painted across the road, or a set of orange cones sitting alone side the road for no reason...usually a 1000' apart...you can do this with a stop watch as well if you have these predetermed points already set up...that's all there is too it....detector is useless...just got to know what to look for along the road...
 
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Old 12-21-2008, 04:27 PM
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I dont think cops in Canada use these ways, like why turn off and on your radar in canada, no one has a radar detector anyways... right?

All the time I see cops hiding behind bridges waiting for a guy to blow past... they have to be leaving their radar on and stuffing some donuts down their throat. (BTW I love cops, Im actually in the process of applying)

The other times they are sitting at the top of a hill with their little laser gun waiting to make my insurance higher.

I think radar detectors would work magic in Toronto, cops dont expect us to have em so why go to all these lengths to try and stay covert?

As long as the detector is not detectable and I can find a way to get em into the country I think I will have a huge advantage.

Any good smugglers with some tips?
 
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I was behind a fellow at a red light that had a bumper sticker that said " Bad Cop / No Donut "
I think his chances are slim to none he's getting out of any speeding ticket.
 
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Old 12-21-2008, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by manderson483
I dont think cops in Canada use these ways, like why turn off and on your radar in canada, no one has a radar detector anyways... right?

All the time I see cops hiding behind bridges waiting for a guy to blow past... they have to be leaving their radar on and stuffing some donuts down their throat. (BTW I love cops, Im actually in the process of applying)

The other times they are sitting at the top of a hill with their little laser gun waiting to make my insurance higher.

I think radar detectors would work magic in Toronto, cops dont expect us to have em so why go to all these lengths to try and stay covert?

As long as the detector is not detectable and I can find a way to get em into the country I think I will have a huge advantage.

Any good smugglers with some tips?
i think it's funny that you want to be a LEO but are constantly talking about breaking the detector law.
 
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:18 PM
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i think it's funny that you want to be a LEO but are constantly talking about breaking the detector law.
lol cuz cops r perfect... you dont think they speed? they just know they can get away with it. I actually hang out with 3 cops everyday, they are my close friends and they are all normal ppl.

One of em even sold a homemade go kart for cash... lol maybe I should get him for tax evation? Oh and we were drinking beer in the park behind my house while we played golf, maybe a drinking in public ticket??
 


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