I want the car to run like it came from the factory that way. Using a Chevy would be easy to make run but nothing else would work, MB uses CAN bus which means there a whole bunch of computers and they all have to work together. I have already considered using a stand alone computer such as a Motec but about the only thing that would run is the engine.

 

If you mean 500+ HP at the crank then yes the LSX platform would do that with a good heads and cam package and tune. My last hot rod was a '99 Hugger Orange Camaro SS and made 454RWHP(dynojet dyno)with a heads and cam package designed by my son and myself, if you extrapolate that out to BHP it would be about 525HP at the crank. Though as mentioned putting the LSX or even and old school 350ci in some other vechile can be a real pain, fun but still a pain, if you want a fully functional ride. Keep in mind that laying down 400+ hp is more involved than just producing that power, other components(i.e. driveshaft, rear dif., tranny's) start to break from the extra abuse and believe me abuse it you would.

Of course a 50-75 shot of juice would not produce the breakage issues I mentioned above.

 

Black Crossfire's comment is almost word for word what I have been trying to get across for the last year. The sudden drop in price put the car in the hands of untalented drivers that are so far from what one would consider worthy of a european high end automobile and they are throwing slap on bling from their local Pep Boys "Rice" aisle. They should become a true collectable with the majority of them being trashed up. A word to the wise buy up used parts if you can find them.
Mike

 

We actually agree on something You are right... the fact that the price of these cars dropped is not good because it allows them to be treated like garbage and run in to the ground a lot sooner. However, that will also make them more rare over time.

The truth is the car owner can do whatever they want to the car... who am I to say anything. I am not a mechanic. I don't know if Nitrous is safe. I was told it wasn't safe and common sense tells me it isn't. If someone wants to take the risk of getting an extra 75 horses for kicks at the risk of destroying their car, go ahead!

 

you should have seen what we were doing to 428 Cobra Jet Mustangs, Hemi Cuda's and Challengers, Z28's and SS Camaro's in the mid to late seventies! Once the values sky rocketed they all end up getting restored. I am planning of buying an SRT roadster one of these days which I will not touch, but my '04 will be personalized the way I want which isn't to hurt the car at all. It will be very OEM to the eye but improved in every way mechanically.

 

The fact of the matter is that it is just a car. You guys are cherishing a depreciating asset like its the best thing ever....IT'S A TOY, and I intend on having fun with it. Its a pretty cool car, and I love mine, but the day that I get frustrated because someone wants to improve on it will be a sad day in my life.

Sometimes I just shake my head when I read threads on this forum....you are such a group of elitists, and when it comes down to it, we own one of the worst flops of modern times. Step off your chairs and cherish the car for what it is...good fun. I love mine, but it is just a car. I for one am glad the car depreciated so much...the cost is now comparable to the value.

Sorry for further hijacking the thread, but the guy didn't ask for general opinions on whether or not modding a car is a good idea, but was looking more specifically for practical knowledge from those that have done it before....that is what a car community is all about.

 

You guys are crazy? and blackcrossfire saying "adding another 75hp and could wreck the car?"

You know adding nitrious is no different to adding a turbo, s/c. TVT is introducing a 300 kit which is 85HP MORE THEN STOCK? so if the car cant handle 75hp of nitrious for a few seconds, Then what hope has it got to take 85hp CONSTANTLY?

blackcrossfire, you admitted you know nothing about nitrious and neither did I, but I did my research and have found it CAN be installed and used WITHOUT damaging the engine period!.

IT HAS NOTHING to do with how much the car costs, because if thats the case why do new M3's, M6's, Lambo's have nitrious? because there so cheap

and since you guys are soooooooooo caught up on the price of these cars and how "untalanted" drivers get them, let me tell you that here in Australia, I PAID MORE FOR MY LIMITED, then most of you did for your SRT so lets not get into that side of things.

 

Here in America everything is cheaper. I know in Europe the government taxes the heck out of cars making the total price almost double what we pay.

As for Nitrous.... use it and enjoy it. I am not letting that stuff near my car. You may have research that shows it is safe but I don't trust what other people say. I would have more respect for someone beating me with a turbo or simply more horses than having someone beat me with a can of Nitrous. To me that is fake and a way of cheating on a race.

Also, I don't know anyone that has a Lambo with Nitrous. Honestly, I don't know too many people with Nitrous.

 

I enjoy my car everyday. I drove it on my way to work and gave it a real good workout! I enjoyed every second of it. I take good care of it and treat it with respect just like every car I have owned. I keep it spotless and clean... I try to keep dents and dings away. I change the oil and treat it like everything else I own. The car is a reflection of me and how I live. It may be a depreciating asset (every car is) but that is no reason to treat it like a piece of garbage and abuse it. That is no reason to take a risk by injecting nitrous into the engine and hope the research says it is safe. To me that is abuse.

As for the value of this car... every person I know loves the car. They think it is beautiful and everyone seems to agree it is worth keeping. It is a symbol of the Mercedes Chrysler merger and the car has a unique story behind it. One day 20-30 years from now people will see a Crossfire on the street and want to check it out.... much like the Karmann Ghia or an old Mustang, Camaro or Porsche. Let's face it... the Fiero was a huge flop. They are now very rare. Once in a while I see a nice one and I wouldn't mind buying or driving it

 

This thread should have been in Technical/Modifications. Nitrous is not fake and is very real. Getting beat is getting beat no matter what they did to their engine to beat you.

 

i know of a red crossfire that has nos and is working...

 

Kolevski,
listen, My point is the Mona Lisa is just a painting, but it shouldn't be altered with cheap "clip art". No I am not comparing the crossfire to the Mona Lisa just trying to make a point.
You have made it obvious you know very little about Nitrous Oxide.
N2O is NOTHING like adding even the most powerful of Blowers or Turbos!
Even with the quickness of a blower it is nothing like the explossive power of nitrous. The possible complications of having hammer like explossions on top of your 6 pistons without any other modifications is, well you figure it out. My complaint of this particular case is this, it's not because the owner has squeezed out every bit of power he can and is being left with very few options but rather slapping on the cheapest most controversial power additive known. I ask you if N2O is so safe would you want to pay "High Book" for a car some young kid slapped nitrous on? Please don't come back with, "I wouldn't pay High Book for any car."
You mention paying so much for your coupe. I gave up my "loaded" Limited Coupe plus $29,000.00 for my SRT, so yes it kinda hurts to watch the market fall through the floor for the Crossfire.

 

Kolevski one thing I don't agree with is people telling you, you need a tune. The Nitrous will only be used from time to time and if you got a tune it would add the fuel curve at all times this would likely make you run rich. I don't think our ECU will compensate for the use of Nitrous if you tuned it personally. Split Second has a system that I was researching for turbo use that seems rather simple to use and looks like it may be just the ticket, it works very much like a piggy back system to control fuel under WOT and Idle or cruising speeds. In this case you could leave the settings all stock until your ready to use Nirtous then bump up the fuel when your ready to run the car with the Nitrous under WOT (Wide open Throttle). The cars have forged internals so the only damage you'll do is if you don't have the fuel for the nitrous. Hope this helps.

 

If Nitrous is legit and a fair way to win a race (and won't damage your engine)... then athletes can use steroids and win gold medals.

 

Your analogy is flawed. N2O is allowed in certain race classes...steroids is not. Get it?

 

Is Nitrous allowed in Indy or Nascar?

 

No, and let's continue to compare apples and oranges anyway. Ever heard of drag racing? Not the kind where you dress up in womans clothing and sniff N2O while you buff your prized xfire

But none of this has anything to do with the good question posted in this thread by the individual just looking to enjoy his sport the way he wants to. Can't you just let us eat meat in peace while you pick at your fruit salad?

 

I think you are being silly now. Nitrous is used everywhere it is legal and probably by Chad Knaus from time to time. It is perfectly legal on the street and if anyone wants to try to pimp out the Mona Lisa they will probalby be shot.

 

LMAO, different kind of racing - straight line.

 

Drag racing is not a sport in my book. Just like wrestling is not a sport. It is not the same as boxing. They may use steroids in wrestling but not in boxing.

Like I said in my previous posts... it is his car and he can do whatever he wants.