yesterday I was at the Dodge dealership and saw a Viper and a Challenger SRT on the floor, and of course both had the pushbutton start, no key that I could see. So I went to the service bay and asked if their stock push button start could be made to be installed in the Cross, thinking that this rather expensive upgrade could be the answer to the sticky key situation many of us have experienced.

the service guy said no, and even regular Challengers w/ a regular key could not be converted, so maybe check with the MB folks, because that's what you have.

But I figured that sombody here might know better than most of those guys. if it ain't in the book, they don't do it. Other than the security issue, I can't believe that it is rocket science, basically just wires to the starting system and to the sensors for the dashlight up. The security thing may be a real PITA, but other than that I can't believe it'd be that hard if they have remote starters you can add on.

Question 2) Anybody figure out a way to keep the water off the wipers from flowing back into the cracked open window on a rainy day? We have no drip rail, so the water just rolls off the roof and into the car. That's annoying.

 

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so maybe check with the MB folks, because that's what you have.[quote]

And some here say it's a Chrysler.....

 

Funny you mention this. Another thead going around right now is about the two million dollar Bugatti. It has a key. Why bother?.

BTW: I have a roadster and never, ever bother locking the thing. I'd rather have some ape just take what's in it rather than slashing the top.

 

LOL! Very true FP. the Dodge guy just said, in reality, it ain't no Chrysler. Too funny, and I also agree with Dwight, I'd rather just have them take it that slash at it. Anyway, I did want to say that I did do a forum search and saw what was there but nothing really definitive about this topic.

 

I used to have a Ford Mustang GT ('00) and I installed a S2000 push start button in that car. It was very simple install as I was provided with a wiring diagram. The Mustang had a chip in the key as well, but it was never an issue as I just spliced the ignition wire. It should be possible in Crossfire and it will look cool. By not cutting the wire, I had the option of either using the key or push button.

 

There use to be a member here Ben's Car Audio who installed a RFiD remote starter on his Crossfire, I would think if you could do this a push button starter would be a piece of cake. http://www.benscaraudio.com/homeintr...echnology.html

 

That's the kind of thing i was thinking about SRTDust. It can't be that hard. i'm not a wiring guy,it's just not my forte, but there are tons of people who do that in their sleep. At the very least my thought would be a switch to energize the dash, another to denergize the security system and then one to start, just by splicing into the current wires.

 

how do you defeat the locking wheel?????????

 

I've been working with another individual on this for quite some time but it's been slow moving because of other projects and the fact that we want this to work like the integrated systems out there now by MB, Nissan and other OEMs. Check out the youtube video for a pretty good explanation of how it work but note that the key portion will be customer dependent meaning you would either remove the ignition altogether or leave it be and make a turn style switch like in the video. YouTube - JR Industries NoKeyGo

 

I did just find a site, Gallotech.com, that sells a 2 door actuator push button start for 160.00, that theey say will work on any car. i have emailed them about the key issue and the steering lock to see what they have to say. I'd suspect that you take the ignition swith out completely so the steering is always full play. i don't know though. But if they say it works on virtually any car, then all cars have this type of mechanism, so therefore the system must bypass that.

 

Don't even waste your time on the Chinese crap. I've worked with almost all of them. These Chinese manufacturers want to get that stuff here but it's all the same sh*t. If you really want one that bad, get in touch with me and I will let you see in person how crappy they truly are and then you can decide if you want to put it in your car. LOL

 

I think this is referred to as a universal kit, and as Rudy so eloquently put it - they are crap. There is almost nothing out there that is universal that will work on this bastardized car LOL

 

I guess I may have been a little harsh about it. LOL but I was being completely honest. BTW, they are crap because they are crap, not because they were made by the Chinese. I was only saying that because a lot of crap does come out of there.

 

Thanks Rcompart, that's what this forum is all about, finding stuff, and theen finding out about it. I have 3 scooters, well really step thru design motorcycles, from 150-650 cc's. I hear folks talk about the scoots they get for $1800, and I know exactly what they are-Chinese junk. You try to tell people this, but they don't do enough research to find out until they're left with an $1800 boat anchor. The chinese stuff is junk because they have almost no quality control over there, they just grab stuff from whatever mfg and toss it in, no support, no replacement parts, no service.

 

Just turn the key and let go...it should continue to crank and start "by itself". That's even cooler than push-button start.

 

yes, Goldwing is correct, you already have a push button start, just about all the new cars are...just turn the key, let go...no different...you could wire in a push button if you want, but the key would have to be on...just touch the key, pretend its a button...

 

I remember, yeah I can still remember, when the cars had push or pull start buttons or ***** and we thought it was real cool to just use the key when that system came along.
What goes around comes around and nothing is new, the fob in your pocket is neat though. But how long before they all have this new system and someone comes along and wants a retro key system?

 

Maybe we should put a crank start coming out the front grille for that 'retro look' LOL

 

The key system tends to fail when you least expected and it won't work until you pay $1500 to Chrysler to fix it or drill the key system yourself and re-search which is the best push button to use because if you put the original key system it will fail on you again :-(

 

I suggest that you take the time to re-read the ignition key fix if you have read it all ready or read it for the first time if you have not. You will learn that once it is fixed it will not fail again. You still need the key to be turned before you press the button or nothing will work.

The fix does not put the key system back to the set up where the locking key problem occurs, unless you replace the parts that are prone to failure but why would you do that?

But maybe you know more than anyone else here.