Here we almost go again.. at least this time the date is being pushed out before the project.. ROFLMAO

 

O BOY !!! Another " mine is bigger than yours" thread.
Gotta love these cat fights .......

 

Well, it's not like there's anything new and exciting going on with this dinosaur of a platform... gotta keep ourselves entertained somehow.

Once EGPhoto makes the bulletproof turbo kit pushing 7-8 pounds of boost with safe AFR's, and figures out how to dyno the car, we'll have plenty of new stuff to discuss. But, that's half a year away. The suspense is terrible. I am really glad he came along though, to educate us. We are blessed.

 

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH your KILLING ME LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL LOLLLLLLLL

 

I'm in rare form today...

 

I can see that !!! O well ! see u at the Dragon this fall , I will move on to somthing i Don;t know , LOL

 

LOL at this, OH BOY

 

never to be heard from again...........................

 

Yes he will.. with a "I-DONE_IT Turbo" sticker over the top of BEGI!

 

I get a little tired of people saying the Crossfire is not a fast car. All I can suggest is find a nice long stretch of highway with no cars or cops. Put the pedal to the floor and go you just might be pleasantly surprised at the cars top speed.

 

It's all perspectives.. coming from a 91 Miata as my fun car.. this NA is a rocket.. 116 mph on a Texas highway was all she had. Now.. friend of mine had his brothers Chevelle SS with a 454 dropped in it.. A run to lunch in it and he had me hammered into the seat. We got back to the shop and he said "It ain't running right".. popped the hood and a plug wire was off.

 

Like I have said so many times, my N/A may not win a race with a Mustang... but I have a video of three Mustangs that tried to keep up with my on Blood mountain a few weeks ago... when we got into the curves, they faded in my mirror.

It is not all about Horse Power. Fun comes in many forms.

 

Im just waiting for someone to get the fuel situation figured out without having to go the SRT ECM route, then I will try to jump on the bandwagon and turbo my car.
Sounds like all I have to do now is wait until the beginning of next year and all my problems have gone away......... Shall I hold my breath?

Either way, I have no shame in admitting I have neither the time, the tools, nor the knowledge necessary to tackle the fuel side of the project within a reasonable timeframe so I will let others make those leaps for me. The mechanicals and plumbing are easy (to me anyway), heck any dweeb with a honda knows that!

 

Maybe he'll bring his 11 sec N/A to the 2013 spring dragon? I for one would go to the spring dragon if he did...

 

For a bunch of classy guys you all sure do dwell In negativity.

 

EG...maybe you should proof read what you started out saying....before you throw that out there. You don't know us, and for all we know, just another troll trying to rattle our cage so to speak. If you want help or answers, there are plenty of us to help you. But out of thousands of posts, and threads on here, dealing with exactly what you are talking about since 2004, don't you think there would be more about turbo/sc'ing the N/A's? Reading thru those threads you will find many dead ends on what they thought were easy paths to hp. AS for faster ricers cars, they have a ton of money in the one's that are fast. Dollar to HP, the XF is a steal in anyone's market. So, as an old guy on here, who has owned many cars, I'm only left with, put up or shut up. But, if you want to be friends, you need to take a step back, and read your own smart *** posts before calling us out...

 

just to rustle the feathers a tad bit more, all i see in this thread is a large quantity of men who are making it a point to say "can't be done kid" / "been there done that" / "it aint gonna happen". just as you all state that i do not know you, well it works the same both ways, none of you know me. what i state is based on facts, and the facts are that aside from factory forced induction no one has Turbo'd or Supercharged an N/A with great results. Now here is where i put my many years of building, working and driving cars into the equation. unless there is a magical portal in this car somewhere that does not allow for modification aside from the factory base, then it CAN be done. Time and Money are the main factors in that happening, or in my case willing people. i happen to not care what everyone else has done, because results happen through trials. i commend Corky for his Turbocharged Endeavors ( i never stated anything against him) and may he produce the best bang for buck kit out there, i however do intend to build a kit for everyone else, i intend to do it for me. None of you are going to sit and tell me that with a Standalone ECU, a Decent Centrifugal Supercharger and some hours on the dyno this car won't make lets say 350WHP, you just won't, because at that point your basically saying that anyone who has ever tried to force induce a vehicle is wrong. Its a Car People.

That is an empty space for all of the rebuttals and insults and statements on how i know nothing, and will accomplish even less. I'm sure JHM2K will fill that space likkity split with a clever quip, or an indirect sarcastic poke at me. go ahead rejoice

 

Wasn't it six weeks ago Johny Tuner showed up here and was going to turn our world upside down with his skills? Where'd he go by the way?

 

Aware that ANY post I make will give you the satisfaction of being right, I'll simply say this:

If you come here thirsty for advice and willing to lean on the trial/error of those who have gone before you, we will be more than happy to help. In 2006 I entered this forum not knowing squat about European cars... let alone tuning them. Many patient people, hours of wrenching & racing, and thousands of searches have given me a vast (but still malleable) knowledge on the subject. Always be willing to learn and even more willing to say "I'm wrong".

If you come on here with no credibility and tenure, telling us that we lack the ***** to mod these cars properly, and inform us all that the only thing standing between you and a turbo Crossfire is a tax refund -- we will laugh you out of the playhouse.

I'm sarcastic and jaded to newbies, but not vindictive. If you'll man up and admit that you have a lot to learn, I'll bury the hatchet and buy you a beer at the next meet. Web3.0 has been trying for over a year to successfully turbocharge/Rotrex a Limited. And he has had many breakthroughs, you'd be wise to spend some hours gleaning information from that thread. It will save you time, money, and credibility. But even with all of his advances, it's still not factory-perfect. And if anyone has the talent and the know-how, it's him.

My suggestion -- wait a few months. By the time the tax return comes back, you can buy the BEGi kit (which, hopefully will be on the market by then) and tweak the boost. MUCH easier than starting from scorched earth and expecting a success story.

Regards,

--John

 

If you don't mind me chiming in (as a Crossfire owner so new to the vehicle, I haven't even finished getting my plates transferred over to it yet)?

I'm not much of a mechanic, but I *am* a car enthusiast and with a 25 year background in computers and I.T. -- not half bad with the electrical side of things on most vehicles either.

Not to try to brag about what I've owned in the past or anything else, but simply to give some perspective on what other cars a Crossfire owner might have owned and modded ... I've owned the following:

- '98 Trans-Am w/LS1 engine
- '97 Toyota Supra twin-turbo
- '89 Toyota Supra turbo
- '97 Mitsubishi Eclipse turbo convertible
- '02 Acura RSX
- '07 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT sedan
- '10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8GT
- 11 Cadillac CTS coupe
- '06 Ford F-150 pickup

Also owned a few other misc. vehicles ... but those are the more notable ones that come to mind right now. Point here is, I'm clearly not just a "Crossfire guy".

All that said, you sound a LOT like people that have visited other car forums I've been on in the past. There's ALWAYS someone out to do what "nobody else has succeeded at", and confident other people simply were afraid to put the time, money and effort into the project they're attempting. IMO, great! Nothing wrong with that at all. It's how improved products get made, and how everyone learns.

But one universal rule with cars and modding I've seen is this: ANYTHING is possible if you throw enough time and money at it. Rule #2 that goes with it is: Someone will ALWAYS be able to build a faster car than you, eventually.

So what it always boils down to with cars and performance is setting boundaries... For example, one guy might have a goal of building the fastest car of make/model X that uses ONLY bolt-on parts. Another guy might say he's after the fastest version of the same car substituting his favorite type of engine out of another vehicle. If you just set out with a generic goal of "beating everyone else I keep running into at the track" -- you're setting yourself up to burn through a lot of money and still wind up disappointed, IMO. To even begin to do THAT properly, you'd have to take a good, hard look at all the possible vehicles to choose from, and choose a platform giving you the best potential combination of tires/traction, biggest power to weight ratio, and optimal transmission gear ratios. Clearly, a Crossfire is NOT going to be that platform.