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Bought mine Friday, noticed the line Saturday. I was happy thinking it was another centerline styling cue.

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WELL ADD ME TO THE LIST TOO 2007 (SPEACIAL EDITION) WITH ALOT OF MILES.
 
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Please add me to this list as my roadster had an identical mark on the canvas roof, i'm also concerned that it will wear through and start leaking.

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Originally Posted by bigblock427
At the moment i have no news because of the holidays.
Just updated the list and put it also on the german forum.

If you car is affected we really appreciate if you add yourself to the list.

Thanks and regards from germany
Markus

Updated list of Crossfire Roadsters outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 2005 SRT
2. DKAwildcat - 2008
3. Pizzaguy - 2005 Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 2005 Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 2005 SRT, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 2007, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 2005 SRT
9. oledoc2u - 2005 SRT
10. inot2old
11. Steven 4190 - 2008, 12k miles
12. itsky - 2006, - 46k miles
13. andyd - 2005 N/A, 47k miles (U.K. car)
14. andyd - 2006 SRT, 17k miles (U.K. car)
15. dtinker - 2006, 8,300 miles, 6X062735
16. InfernoRedXfire - 2005 SRT
17. 2005 Ragtop - 2005, 31k miles
18. iamfink2 - 2005, 46k miles
19. RMADERMAN - 2005 SRT 6, 30k miles, new top under warranty
20. RMADERMAN - 2005 SRT 6, 50k miles, new top, Chrysler paid for top, i paid for install at $600 (Florida car)
21. AMAFIRE - 2005 SRT 6, warranty top replaced at 30K miles (Florida car)
22. Osofast2 - 2005, 38k miles
23. UK DAVE - 2006 SRT 6, 12K miles (U.K. car)
24. Hindin - 2006, 23.5k miles
25. shedman - 2006, 24k miles
26. Ottawa John - 2007
27. harbor - 2007 Ltd., 16k miles
28. gibsonjunkie - 2005, 76k miles, been there for at least three years (Connecticut car)
29. etmusic - 2006 Ltd. - problem started around 20k miles
30. muskrat - 2004, 52k miles - been there since I got it.
31. gryfan - 2005 with 30,00 km (Canadian car - recheck mileage)
32. KJN - 2006 Ltd. - It has the exact mark from when I bought it used at 23k miles.
33. Erzer - 2007 SE, 57k miles.
34. smfrycruzr - 2005 Ltd., 43k miles.
35. Mushtalakin - 2005 Ltd., 45k KM (Canadian car) Dealer said: Was caused by putting top down while wet.
36. P-J - 2006 SE
37. loosecannonxf - 2007 - Problem starter with 23k miles, now 59k miles
38. Stargazer - 2005 - Limited Roadster, 32k miles, New Top (FLORIDA CAR)
39. Lorne - 2005 - 38k KM (Canadian car)
40. Scott_lmtd - 2005 - LTD, 34k miles
41. jonnyb - 2005 - SRT6 - bought with 24K miles and visible top damage - now at 29K it's worse
42. crossfirefrank - 2005 - 12k miles
43. thistle - 2007
44. xfirebob - 2007 - 8k miles
Hi! No problems with my hood (yet!) but please add me to the list.

Rowanbud - 2006 machine grey - 37K miles - UK car
 
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Add my 2005 na with 53K to the list as the defect is very prominent.
 
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You can add me to the list. Same marks, same spot. 05 Alabaster
 
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Originally Posted by bigblock427
Hi to all Crossfire Roadsters drivers.

At the moment we have approx. 20 people in germany that report a fabric problem with the soft top. The soft top fabric will be pleated when you open, or close the soft top. After approx. 2-3 years from new there is a horizontal line in the fabric. The fabric gets weak and there is the possibility that it will break, tear or leak.

Here are pictures that show the problem.



One forum member has got a expert opinion from the german DEKRA which is a Association for Technical Inspections. The DEKRA testifies that the problem is caused by a construction fault and that the problem will return even if you change the complete soft top, because it's caused by the soft top mechanism.

So what we want to know is if there are other people out there with the same problem. Our goal is to find a solution in cooperation with Chrysler.

If you also have this problem we would really appreciate if you attend to the list.

List of cars outside germany:
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We're also interested in how you solved the problem if the problem is known.
And if the costs were met by any warranty?

Link to thread the german Crossfire forum:
Chrysler - Dodge - Jeep - Auto - Forum | Chrysler Crossfire - Forum | 2) Roadster Verdeck

Thanks and regards
Markus

You can add my 2007 with around 22,000 miles
 
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Lemmings . . . . . .
 
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add me to the list

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Add me to the list. I know what the problem is. It's not caused by the top going down. There is nothing rubbing along it either. The problem occurs when the top goes up. The canvas "creases" as it starts to go up. Have someone else hold the switch to put up the top and watch the top come up. You will see it "crease" in that one spot as it comes up. I watched it happen yesterday as I was trying to figure out the problem. I assume it will eventually wear out the fabric and fail requiring an new top.
 
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I have two roadsters and do not have the crease wear problem. I use a product called Waxoyl on my fabric tops. Not designed for it but it strengthens fabric and waterproofs. I use it on leather too.It stops corrosion elsewhere. google it. gary
 
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Originally Posted by arado
I have two roadsters and do not have the crease wear problem. I use a product called Waxoyl on my fabric tops. Not designed for it but it strengthens fabric and waterproofs. I use it on leather too.It stops corrosion elsewhere. google it. gary
I use the Autoglym kit twice per year. Mine's an '06 and I don't have a problem either. This may be due to the fact that I live in the UK and opportunities to put the top down are fewer than elsewhere lol!
 
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Time for an updated list - just noticed that mine has it when I was coming out of work and the sun caught it just right - '05 with 45k miles.


Updated list of Crossfire Roadsters outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 2005 SRT
2. DKAwildcat - 2008
3. Pizzaguy - 2005 Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 2005 Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 2005 SRT, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 2007, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 2005 SRT
9. oledoc2u - 2005 SRT
10. inot2old
11. Steven 4190 - 2008, 12k miles
12. itsky - 2006, - 46k miles
13. andyd - 2005 N/A, 47k miles (U.K. car)
14. andyd - 2006 SRT, 17k miles (U.K. car)
15. dtinker - 2006, 8,300 miles, 6X062735
16. InfernoRedXfire - 2005 SRT
17. 2005 Ragtop - 2005, 31k miles
18. iamfink2 - 2005, 46k miles
19. RMADERMAN - 2005 SRT 6, 30k miles, new top under warranty
20. RMADERMAN - 2005 SRT 6, 50k miles, new top, Chrysler paid for top, i paid for install at $600 (Florida car)
21. AMAFIRE - 2005 SRT 6, warranty top replaced at 30K miles (Florida car)
22. Osofast2 - 2005, 38k miles
23. UK DAVE - 2006 SRT 6, 12K miles (U.K. car)
24. Hindin - 2006, 23.5k miles
25. shedman - 2006, 24k miles
26. Ottawa John - 2007
27. harbor - 2007 Ltd., 16k miles
28. gibsonjunkie - 2005, 76k miles, been there for at least three years (Connecticut car)
29. etmusic - 2006 Ltd. - problem started around 20k miles
30. muskrat - 2004, 52k miles - been there since I got it.
31. gryfan - 2005 with 30,00 km (Canadian car - recheck mileage)
32. KJN - 2006 Ltd. - It has the exact mark from when I bought it used at 23k miles.
33. Erzer - 2007 SE, 57k miles.
34. smfrycruzr - 2005 Ltd., 43k miles.
35. Mushtalakin - 2005 Ltd., 45k KM (Canadian car) Dealer said: Was caused by putting top down while wet.
36. P-J - 2006 SE
37. loosecannonxf - 2007 - Problem starter with 23k miles, now 59k miles
38. Stargazer - 2005 - Limited Roadster, 32k miles, New Top (FLORIDA CAR)
39. Lorne - 2005 - 38k KM (Canadian car)
40. Scott_lmtd - 2005 - LTD, 34k miles
41. jonnyb - 2005 - SRT6 - bought with 24K miles and visible top damage - now at 29K it's worse
42. crossfirefrank - 2005 - 12k miles
43. thistle - 2007
44. xfirebob - 2007 - 8k miles
45. cmalmgren - 2005 Limited Roadster, 66k miles
46. SATXfire - 2005 Limited Roadster, 11k miles
47. eruby - 2005 Limited Roadster, 70K miles - upstate SC USA
48. tdanner -
49. srt-6 rag top - 2005 - SRT6 -
50. Canuk - 2005 - 60,000 kilometers
51. Stevefromtyler - 2005 - LTD - 40,000 miles
52. tolas007 - 2005 - SRT6 -
53. mich56 - 2007 - 24,000 miles
54. Michael M - 2005 - LTD - 73,000 miles
55. theoneandonly - 2007 - SE - alot of miles
56. aledkthomas - 2005 - 70,000 miles - Wales, UK
57. TomKat - 2005 - 53,000 miles
58. gl123844 - 2005 - LTD -
59. AngeloSpinner - 2005 -
60. RED-Fire - 2007 - 22,000 miles
61. BillG - 2005 - 26,000 miles
62. Gunsofthenavarrone - 2005 - LTD -
63. Red007Roadster - 2007 - Base -
64. OKC-XFR - 2005 - LTD - 45,000 miles
 

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I decided to cancel my account in the german Crossfire forum.

The user Hardy_black initiated this topic on ther german Crossfire forum and asked me to open this thread in this forum.

Now it's time to turn over to Hardy_black

Here you'll find this topic in the german Crossfire forum:
http://www.chrysler-forum.com/thread,threadid-44840_Verdeck.html

Best regards
Markus
 
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That is great if you speak German...but I don't!
 
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Given my mileage is at 66684 (under the 70k), I seem to have a WW fluid leak, and the upper windshield trim whistles while the car works, I decided it was time to take the car in about the top as well.

They are full with appointments through Saturday and I'm leaving that morning for RME of CAA, so I stopped by to lodge the issues and set up an appointment for the 1st of Aug and made them record the mileage on the service call.

For now the rep said they will have to take a picture of the area when I come in that day and send it off to Chrysler to see what they say. So begins the drawn out denial process I'm sure. I'll post as I have updates.

Until then I have to hope the bug population in Kansas decides to bed down or was killed by the heat; plus put some rainx type stuff on the windshield to help the buildup (riiight)
 
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Originally Posted by Erzer
Given my mileage is at 66684 (under the 70k), I seem to have a WW fluid leak, and the upper windshield trim whistles while the car works, I decided it was time to take the car in about the top as well.

They are full with appointments through Saturday and I'm leaving that morning for RME of CAA, so I stopped by to lodge the issues and set up an appointment for the 1st of Aug and made them record the mileage on the service call.

For now the rep said they will have to take a picture of the area when I come in that day and send it off to Chrysler to see what they say. So begins the drawn out denial process I'm sure. I'll post as I have updates.

Until then I have to hope the bug population in Kansas decides to bed down or was killed by the heat; plus put some rainx type stuff on the windshield to help the buildup (riiight)
I have an opinion that this canvas top fault is caused by keeping the top down for prolonged periods of time. I began noticing this defect in my top earlier this summer when I had the top down quite a bit. I'd pull in and leave the top down for several hours because I was going to leave again. When I began noticing it, I started putting the top back up as soon as I got home....It's hardly noticeable now...
 


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