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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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When my I/C pump went I printed out a couple threads about symptoms from this forum and took it to my Chrysler dealer (I bought my roadster from them). It took them two road tests, the second having to be much longer to cause the I/C pump failure, but then they cheerfully replaced the I/C pump under warranty. I have not had a problem with it since 2008.


I would not trust a Dodge dealer with your SRT6 even though I realize they own the SRT brand now. They just won't know jack-$hit about Mercedes-Benz AMG engines. Trust the forum, grasshopper.
I get the parts installed tomorrow. Can you beleave when I told the guy at the shop that I have read alot on the forums about this car and everyone is saying its the pump he said "I trust my certified techs more than a bunch of nerds on the internet". Its going to be funny when they install everything and its still messing up.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 07:58 PM
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The internet nerds love a good challenge. I suspect we have a lot more experience than a certified Dodge mechaninc. I predict a 1-0 victory by the nerds. Go Red Wings.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:59 PM
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A 5* Chrysler dealer is well aware that parts and service are a major bottom line to the business. They get my business for anything I can't tackle and they appreciate this forum. They always have at least one Crossfire-trained mechanic on staff and I provide diagnostics from the forum at all times. For example, even though I can do my own oil changes, I bring them in just to keep my cars in the system. The owners never fail to greet me, usually by name, and they instill confidence at every turn. I shake my head at these Chrysler dealers who don't get it (as in, I'm old school. Everything ma MoPar is under the Chrysler umbrella). I'm very happy Chrysler survived, I'm grateful to Sergio, and I'm sure he's pissed when dealers can't even get their act together to service product correctly that they are supposed to do. Believe me, he's keenly aware of Fix It Again Tony in the US. Good dealers, like mine, are out there. I just feel bad for members here that can't even rely on Chrysler dealers to have their act together enough to service product they within recent memory sold. Looks like 5* really does mean something in the big picture.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Just got off the phone with Chrysler and now they are saying that the SC bearing is out and they are going to have to replace the entire supercharger. Around $8000! Thank god I have an extended warrenty!
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Shelbygto2
Just got off the phone with Chrysler and now they are saying that the SC bearing is out and they are going to have to replace the entire supercharger. Around $8000! Thank god I have an extended warrenty!
Find out if you can keep the old one, you'll have to perfectly fine blowers then. The dealer doesnt care since this is going under a warranty tab, might be doing it on purpose. By the way how many miles on your car?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shelbygto2
Just got off the phone with Chrysler and now they are saying that the SC bearing is out and they are going to have to replace the entire supercharger. Around $8000! Thank god I have an extended warrenty!
Please tell me you aren't letting those idiots touch your car??? I understand you're new here, but we aren't blowing smoke up your ****. All you need to do is change that IC pump and your troubles are pretty much gone. Should you swap the SC pulley bearing out? Yeah, and use the upgraded higher RPM one ($20 part). Should you let a dealership that has no clue about your car replace a supercharger? Absofakkinlutely not.

You joined a forum that collectively knows more about this car than any state's worth of Dodge mechanics. Stop wasting your time with them and fix it yourself. We've given you the information, it's up to you if you want to utilize it.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:06 PM
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100 bucks for a brand new super charger sounds like a no brainer win to me..


Then when it ain't fixed.. they can throw in a new pump to boot..
 

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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Might sound that way to someone that hasn't had to replace one. There's a lot that can go wrong with the removal/reinstall if you don't know what you're working with. The process requires a special sealant and proprietary caulking gun from M-B, new gaskets on a bunch of surfaces, and knowledge of the engine (which they obviously don't have). All the issues can be solved with a $106 pump and 45 minutes of your time.
 

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:49 PM
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Chuk is correct....they will continue to screw up a perfectly good car. You tell your Chrysler mechanic when you see him, that a redneck non-nerd said he is full of ****. If he knew anything about this car, he would have 1st checked the air intake temperature sensor to see if it was working, if working, he would 2nd, check the pump to see if it is moving coolant, if it is working as they say, 3rd check electronic clutch to see if is engaging.... The bearing is not going out on your s/c. They don't know what's wrong, so now they are throwing parts at it.... When they are done, you will have the same problem... You may print what I just told you, and tell the service writer he can wipe his dumb *** with this piece of paper.... And as for the nerds on here, they are the ones that make these cars run a lot faster once all the upgrades are done. If we ever get a gear cut for the rear end in my car, I will even give their 707 hp hell cat a run for it's money... While it's spinnin' I'll be grinnin' .... Good luck, kid...but the warranty company is getting hosed...and you will too if they F it up....
 

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 08:02 PM
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By the way Shelbygto2, if you do manage to get your hands on a used NW intake, see how quickly that extended warranty won't mean $#!t to them. You'll just be denied. Guess I'll be the obligatory bad guy here and tell you that there's no point in you asking for advice if you don't plan on following it. Let them screw up your car but don't come looking for sympathy after turning a deaf ear to sound advice.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Shelbygto2
Just got off the phone with Chrysler and now they are saying that the SC bearing is out and they are going to have to replace the entire supercharger. Around $8000! Thank god I have an extended warrenty!

I was even a bit nervous when I took the graphite in for a fact warranty replacement of the diff (harmonic issue). It's been perfect for over 5 years (my diff replacement even straightened out some warehouse issues back east, since when M/B bailed, they mis-crated ltd. and SRT diffs. It took two shipment tries to get the right one.). I'm totally mystified why you won't even attempt this simple pump replacement. I'm completely with oledoc and chuK. I love the Hellcats as much as any forum member here, but I'm sorry, I wouldn't let a Dodge dealer service bay within 10 miles of my SRT's. Throwing your warranty at an SRT-6 by unqualified Chrysler mechanics is just plain st*pid.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chuK_138
Please tell me you aren't letting those idiots touch your car??? I understand you're new here, but we aren't blowing smoke up your ****. All you need to do is change that IC pump and your troubles are pretty much gone. Should you swap the SC pulley bearing out? Yeah, and use the upgraded higher RPM one ($20 part). Should you let a dealership that has no clue about your car replace a supercharger? Absofakkinlutely not.

You joined a forum that collectively knows more about this car than any state's worth of Dodge mechanics. Stop wasting your time with them and fix it yourself. We've given you the information, it's up to you if you want to utilize it.


Hmm.. seems someone was recently all happy camper his Chrysler Dealer just replaced his super charger... who was that?
 

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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 02:19 AM
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Please give me a second
 
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Shelbygto2
Just got off the phone with Chrysler and now they are saying that the SC bearing is out and they are going to have to replace the entire supercharger. Around $8000! Thank god I have an extended warrenty!
DUDE; WAKE UP! Did they tell you positively that your alleged extended warranty will cover all the proposed work that they are trying to fraudulently perform? You should make sure you're covered, and hopefully the extended warranty Co. doesn't drop into our Forum looking for expert advice. Many forum members here have diagnosed the real problem for you, and you now have knowledge of what the real problem is. Will you be aiding and abetting them in having thousands of dollars worth of unnecessary work performed? Are you seriously going to let them tear into your perfectly good intake system? If you plan on going forward with this, ask to see the NEW supercharger before you drop your car off. Wait a minute, you already dropped your car off to them didn't you. And they think you are an internet nerd that doesn't know $hit about cars. It all may work out o.k., as long as they install an IC pump to cover their a$$. And they can then say that they indeed fixed it with all the unnecessary parts and labor $$$$$$$. Regardless of what some have shared about their success at the Dealership; the majority of Dealerships Service Advisers or managers are smooth talking pathological liars! Did I mention that they're full of $hit. Good luck, because it is what you're going to need.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 06:24 AM
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Hmm.. seems someone was recently all happy camper his Chrysler Dealer just replaced his super charger... who was that?
There you go again, thinking you know something you have no clue about. My SC actually failed. It was replaced, at a Chrysler dealership, by a Mercedes and SRT Certified tech who was grilled by me to test his knowledge. But even better is the fact that I've actually replaced a supercharger on these cars, much unlike yourself. I have nothing against knowledgable people working on my car and replacing parts seeing as it was warranty work, but I have huge problem with someone who has no clue taking apart a perfctly good motor because they want to get money from a warranty company.

To reiterate, maybe you should get all your facts straight before you go making stupid statements MrMiata.....because I've gotten pretty fed up with your decorum here. Just because you've read this many posts doesn't make you more knowledgable about this car than a guy who's actually worked on them....a lot of them.

To the OP, you need to get your car back from that dealer before you get screwed over. That or we will all be reading your next thread and wondering why you didn't listen to reason.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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There you go again, thinking you know something you have no clue about. My SC actually failed. It was replaced, at a Chrysler dealership, by a Mercedes and SRT Certified tech who was grilled by me to test his knowledge. But even better is the fact that I've actually replaced a supercharger on these cars, much unlike yourself. I have nothing against knowledgable people working on my car and replacing parts seeing as it was warranty work, but I have huge problem with someone who has no clue taking apart a perfctly good motor because they want to get money from a warranty company.

To reiterate, maybe you should get all your facts straight before you go making stupid statements MrMiata.....because I've gotten pretty fed up with your decorum here. Just because you've read this many posts doesn't make you more knowledgable about this car than a guy who's actually worked on them....a lot of them.

To the OP, you need to get your car back from that dealer before you get screwed over. That or we will all be reading your next thread and wondering why you didn't listen to reason.


There you go beating on your chest again.. Did the dealer replace it or not.. see how simple that question is? You really act like your the only one qualified to even touch a super charger.. step off your pedestal. Hint.. now you know why you were removed from "your" facebook page. And I saw your knowledge.. Shot Skreem is what you referenced.. even though it was mounted in the trunk.. LOL.
 

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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 10:53 AM
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You keep making the same mistake...not knowing what the hell you're talking about. Just because a dealership replaced the one on the graphite coupe doesn't mean I didn't install one on another member's car. You can ask ThumperSRT to verify if you feel the need. Keep trying to make yourself feel special Greg, but you're not....and you don't have a clue when it comes to working on an SRT-6. Maybe you should stay in the other sub-forums you might have knowledge in. This isn't one for you.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chuK_138
You keep making the same mistake...not knowing what the hell you're talking about. Just because a dealership replaced the one on the graphite coupe doesn't mean I didn't install one on another member's car. You can ask ThumperSRT to verify if you feel the need. Keep trying to make yourself feel special Greg, but you're not....and you don't have a clue when it comes to working on an SRT-6. Maybe you should stay in the other sub-forums you might have knowledge in. This isn't one for you.


Yeah.. sure do.. like informing your last victim that is not the skreem module right? Didn't address that did you.. Point out where I claimed you never touched one okay.. who made the mistake now?


Make myself feel special.. hmm.. like "Look at the plumb bob I made".. ROFL
 
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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There you go trying to make this about Facebook instead of the problem the OP posted about, which you can't answer because you don't have a d@mn clue. When I misname a part, but the person who has the issue and I are actually talking directly, and we both know what we're talking about what difference does it make to you??? I corrected my mistake, maybe you missed it....who cares.

And when you ask if a dealer replaced the SC or not, you were implying I hadn't. Anything else you need me to address??? Oh yeah, "my" page as you referred to it wasn't started by me.
 

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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chuK_138
There you go trying to make this about Facebook instead of the problem the OP posted about, which you can't answer because you don't have a d@mn clue. When I misname a part, but the person who has the issue and I are actually talking directly, and we both know what we're talking about what difference does it make to you??? I corrected my mistake, maybe you missed it....who cares.

And when you ask if a dealer replaced the SC or not, you were implying I hadn't. Anything else you need me to address???


No you implied what you wanted. It was a straight forward question. You WANTED to get offended so congratulations.. your offended.


All I pointed out was you had a dealer replace yours under warranty.. sounds a whole bunch like this thread even though the OP didn't diagnose it himself. But of course your the only one qualified to qualify a dealer right?


Go make a spatula now.. use it to make some happy face pancakes and get over yourself.
 
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