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Old 08-28-2015, 09:02 PM
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I haven’t posted on this board for quite a while. I have an SLK32 AMG which I fell in love with, though at times it has been a love/hate relationship. This forum was a great resource, but when faced with unique problems that weren’t easily resolved through your expertise, I felt stymied.

Many moons have passed and I experienced some tranny problems that weren’t easily resolved through trial and error, common sense, streams of money or a consensus from previous forum posts. I’ve driven my baby very little and have lately been in “limp mode”. Not to mention that GD airbag light. The airbag light was caused by my cycling the ignition switch when the airbags were electrically disconnected. I have two different iPhone apps to read DTC’s but the most I got regarding the tranny was a P0715. Even other “more advanced” code readers came up with doodlee squat. So I disconnected the battery and she has sat idle for the better part of 6 months.

So a couple of days ago I ordered an iCarsoft MBII code reader. Today it arrived. This thing is freaking awesome. A quick update of the firmware and I was ready to go. When connected to the OBDII port, I was led through a series of menus that not only asked for the R170 chassis, it prompted for the SLK32. Then, it quickly cleared my air bag light, and it revealed 13, count ‘em, 13 TCU error codes. After recording the codes, I cleared the codes and my baby was out of limp mode. On a short, gentle test ride, the device also provided real-time data streams of TONS of data. It’s like I can finally talk to the computers in my car!

I know what you’re thinking and no, I did not go tearing through my neighborhood straight to the track. I have plenty of investigating to do before I can heal her and drive her for real. But, it was just such a relief to finally have the data to begin a diagnosis of what ails her.

Granted, this is all “first blush” infatuation. But I have never had this much information or control over my car’s systems. For less than $200, you owe it to yourself to get one of these bad boys. And no, I do not work for iCarsoft….though I wish I did. I will provide updates as I delve deeper into this device. I’ll be posting screen shots of my initial findings separately.

You can find the tool HERE, though I got mine on eBay for much less http://www.ebay.com/itm/iCarsoft-MB-II-Mercedes-Benz-Sprinter-Smart-Scanner-OBD2/301665127380?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33278%26meid%3Db4fcf262148c42afb95c4a6ffc63a14f%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D301684372197 and I don’t work for them either!
 
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Old 08-29-2015, 03:00 AM
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Great that you found a system that suits.
What does it do that TorquePro doesnt do?...I cant see anything from the ebay listing.....
TorquePro $5 APP + $10 bluetooth dongle for your OBDII port.


There's also another called carsoft7.4 which runs off a deal extreme kit for ~$120, but you need a laptop with XP and a serial port...That was my original system. I use that when things get tough = rarely.
I have 4 MB's ATM.
 
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:27 AM
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Thanks for sharing the information! As I do all of my own car repairs, and I have two Crossfires, I'm strongly considering getting this scan tool and may go for it later in the day. I'm still researching it. There are two iCarsoft models, and there are YouTube videos on them working on advance diagnostic codes for Mercedes. I own three other ODBII scanners and none of them could read or clear an ABS fault on my coupe a couple of years ago. Fortunately, after cleaning the connectors on all four ABS sensors that fault cleared. Others on the forum have had SRS issues regular scanners could not clear. As these scanners run from $133 for the small unit to $230 for the larger unit avoiding one dealer trip to clear a code would pay for the unit. From what I read the Mercedes specific versions only work with Mercedes.
 

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Old 08-29-2015, 07:33 AM
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That may be OK for a Mercedes but we drive Chryslers, not the same programs I am sure.
 
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That is a valid concern I have. However, as we know the Crossfire is a Mercedes SLK320 (R170) under the sheet metal I suspect that it's more likely it will work. As I'm strongly considering buying this it could be an expensive mistake, or a relatively inexpensive win. Do you have any reference information that backs up that a Mercedes scanner will not work? Do you know if the Mercedes Star tool does not work with the Crossfire.
 

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I'd consider it IF I was sure it would work on my SRT-6. The dashdaq won't do anything about the airbag light I have or read hidden or readiness codes. The dealer diagnostics charge and clearing the air bag light would cost me around the price of this code scanner. Who want to send them an email and ask?

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Originally Posted by Billy22Bob
Great that you found a system that suits.
What does it do that TorquePro doesnt do?...I cant see anything from the ebay listing.....
TorquePro $5 APP + $10 bluetooth dongle for your OBDII port..
Can torque do tcu and airbag?
I just got a mini Bluetooth obd2 and it came with an apk of torque pro. 8.50 shipped!
 
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Why doesn't someone just contact them and ask?
 
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Originally Posted by Toolman
That is a valid concern I have. However, as we know the Crossfire is a Mercedes SLK320 (R170) under the sheet metal I suspect that it's more likely it will work. As I'm strongly considering buying this it could be an expensive mistake, or a relatively inexpensive win. Do you have any reference information that backs up that a Mercedes scanner will not work? Do you know if the Mercedes Star tool does not work with the Crossfire.
MrMiata should know the answer.
 
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Like this:

Dear iCarsoft,

Can you please tell me if your MB II for MB/Sprinter/Smart will work with a Chrysler Crossfire (R170 MB Chassis/running gear)?

Since neither MB nor Chrysler will work on our cars, this may be a sizeable new market for you.

Independent MB repair specialists can use the MB Startech software/scanner to see our cars as though they were 1998-2002 SLK 320’s (M112 engine) or SLK 32’s (M113 engine).

All automatic Crossfires have the MB NAG-1 transmission.

Please help us out?

Thank you for your time,

Kindest Regards, Max Cichon


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Originally Posted by rfourt
So a couple of days ago I ordered an iCarsoft MBII code reader. Today it arrived. This thing is freaking awesome. A quick update of the firmware and I was ready to go. When connected to the OBDII port, I was led through a series of menus that not only asked for the R170 chassis, it prompted for the SLK32. Then, it quickly cleared my air bag light, and it revealed 13, count ‘em, 13 TCU error codes. After recording the codes, I cleared the codes and my baby was out of limp mode. On a short, gentle test ride, the device also provided real-time data streams of TONS of data. It’s like I can finally talk to the computers in my car!

What do the menus show for SKREEM and FOB syncing?

How about TPMS screens?
 
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Searching our forum I found this thread where LantanaTX used a MB Star DAS system:


https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...y-battery.html
 
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What do the menus show for SKREEM and FOB syncing?

How about TPMS screens?

Having a lit TPMS warning seems to have cost me a sale.

Will it marry the senders to the reciever? I do not like the local dealer and cannot find an independent locally who can preform this function.
 
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If you have some time and willing to read....see link below that's been going for 10 years on the subject....
38 pin and carsoft 7.4 - Page 75 - Mercedes-Benz Forum
 
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I've been exploring the MBII code reader and have started documenting the "menu tree" to show some of the data the unit can read.

There are a few typos in the actual menus, but there may also be some in my document.

I will be updating this document as time permits.
 
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Originally Posted by Toolman
Thanks for sharing the information! As I do all of my own car repairs, and I have two Crossfires, I'm strongly considering getting this scan tool and may go for it later in the day. I'm still researching it. There are two iCarsoft models, and there are YouTube videos on them working on advance diagnostic codes for Mercedes. I own three other ODBII scanners and none of them could read or clear an ABS fault on my coupe a couple of years ago. Fortunately, after cleaning the connectors on all four ABS sensors that fault cleared. Others on the forum have had SRS issues regular scanners could not clear. As these scanners run from $133 for the small unit to $230 for the larger unit avoiding one dealer trip to clear a code would pay for the unit. From what I read the Mercedes specific versions only work with Mercedes.
did you ever get around to getting this scanner? Does it work on tcu?
 
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can this check the abs wheel sensors to clear the light? WW
 
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I sent 3 emails to Icarsoft.
I sent them to the technical dept.
In the first email I droned on and on about ho R170 ~ crossfire.
He asked for vin.
I sent it.

I honestly resent that the person NEVER addressed the model crossover issue
and I suspect... but do not know if he was simply answering per his 'drilldown' list
and perhaps had no idea what he was talking about. They do that at helpdesks
because so many questions are so mind-numbingly stupid.

And... my question "will your US V2 that says it works on Chrysler work on my Chrysler?"
is on the surface an equally stupid question.
But like I said, the 'technical' department did not answer my questions, only 3 times said the same thing: US V2

Unsure... I continued. Now... I find the AUTEC DIGALINK.
Set up for just ONE MODEL. hmmm.
BUT... for $10 you can get the software for an additional model.
Plus it is less than $100.
While waiting for reports from any readers (chicken sound... baaawwwk bawk bawk)
I will consider getting this one with Chrysler AND R170 software later if the
Chrysler does not fill the bill.
AND, if in the sad situation that (which I am expecting) it works great for R170 but not crossfire
and for crossfire the more spiffy circuits are NOT read... for $10 more I can add cars that are
more mainstream than ours are. Chevy. Ford. Etc.

I am so cynical despite the FACT that I have no SOLID reason to think Mr. Davies at icarsoft is not 100% correct.
Obviously, the software for our cars exists.
Why would the be the ONLY software they cannot obtain and/or license?
Why would icarsoft be so unequivocal when saying US V2 will work for my car if it won't?
Amazon seems to have a guarantee right?
If it doesn't do as claimed... back it goes.

Here is the email I rcvd,
From a Mr. Davies,
in the technical department
at icarsoftin
on Aug 12, 2020
not using american english.....Hello Don,

Nice day.

Your car is Chrysler.
MB II can't work on it.


You need a US V2.0.
You can get one at Amazon or Ebay.


Thanks
Sincerely,
Barnett Davies,




 
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Originally Posted by crossfireforum1951
I sent 3 emails to Icarsoft.
I sent them to the technical dept.
In the first email I droned on and on about ho R170 ~ crossfire.
He asked for vin.
I sent it.

I honestly resent that the person NEVER addressed the model crossover issue
and I suspect... but do not know if he was simply answering per his 'drilldown' list
and perhaps had no idea what he was talking about. They do that at helpdesks
because so many questions are so mind-numbingly stupid.

And... my question "will your US V2 that says it works on Chrysler work on my Chrysler?"
is on the surface an equally stupid question.
But like I said, the 'technical' department did not answer my questions, only 3 times said the same thing: US V2

Unsure... I continued. Now... I find the AUTEC DIGALINK.
Set up for just ONE MODEL. hmmm.
BUT... for $10 you can get the software for an additional model.
Plus it is less than $100.
While waiting for reports from any readers (chicken sound... baaawwwk bawk bawk)
I will consider getting this one with Chrysler AND R170 software later if the
Chrysler does not fill the bill.
AND, if in the sad situation that (which I am expecting) it works great for R170 but not crossfire
and for crossfire the more spiffy circuits are NOT read... for $10 more I can add cars that are
more mainstream than ours are. Chevy. Ford. Etc.

I am so cynical despite the FACT that I have no SOLID reason to think Mr. Davies at icarsoft is not 100% correct.
Obviously, the software for our cars exists.
Why would the be the ONLY software they cannot obtain and/or license?
Why would icarsoft be so unequivocal when saying US V2 will work for my car if it won't?
Amazon seems to have a guarantee right?
If it doesn't do as claimed... back it goes.

Here is the email I rcvd,
From a Mr. Davies,
in the technical department
at icarsoftin
on Aug 12, 2020
not using american english.....Hello Don,

Nice day.

Your car is Chrysler.
MB II can't work on it.


You need a US V2.0.
You can get one at Amazon or Ebay.


Thanks
Sincerely,
Barnett Davies,
You are on a 3 year old thread, look for something newer. This topic is always being chewed on.
 
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