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Need Help! P0505 idle control!

Old Mar 11, 2016 | 10:23 PM
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Hey guys I just basically need to know what you guys thing the problem is with my srt 6 crossfire that has 66k miles.

I have a check engine light that's pulling a p0505 code. I just added DCAI (not needswings) and a catback exhaust(not need wings ) I was told by the dealer it may need to be tuned because of all the new air coming into the motor. Still unsure and want to know what you guys think!
 
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 11:13 PM
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Did you run a line from the intake tube to the valve cover on the driver's side?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 11:16 PM
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I do but it's kinking and I don't think alot of ait is getting through. Where would you suggest I get a hose? The stock hose does not reach completely . Is there a place I can get a certain hose with the same stock set up but a bit longer?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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Any hose will do as long as it's the correct diameter and heat resistant.
There is no extreme pressure on this breather hose.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 08:33 AM
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So do you think It's as simple as the kinking in the hose that I have?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumu1009
So do you think It's as simple as the kinking in the hose that I have?
If you have the hose kinking then you can solve that by putting a large 180 to 360 degree loop in the hose and it will go where ever you want it to. Natch you'll
need a longer hose.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 02:20 PM
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I can't advise with the PO505 code but I can keep a rubber hose from kinking shut. Referring to the rubber hose that connects the intake tube port then other end mounts to the drivers side valve cover area engine ventalation port. I went to HomeDepot and purchased a Stainless steel with yellow corrosion resistant coated Gas Connector. Flexable gas supply line like you would use on a water heater,range,or dryer. It's 1/2"OD by 36" long all curled up in a small bag. Use a tubing cutter to cut off just the ((flared ends only)) to remove all the unwanted nut hookups. Took the flex gas tubing to NAPA to be assured it would slip into their new rubber hose. Make sure to cut their rubber hose at least two inches longer than the gas tubing. Soap up really good the inside of the rubber hose and outside of gas tubing. With the hose straight and the gas tubing straight,it will slide in and never kink up. Then flush out all the soap from between the gas tubing and rubber hose with water. Squirrel Crusher
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 12:04 PM
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Mine originally kinked up when I did the DCAI install. I just took a little more time and rotated the hose on the barb fitting on the intake side. Problem solved.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 4drturbo
Mine originally kinked up when I did the DCAI install. I just took a little more time and rotated the hose on the barb fitting on the intake side. Problem solved.
When yours kinked up did it make it seem like your idle control motor was basically going out? My car is an automatic and it almost stalls itself out while I'm causing in 1st gear.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 02:02 AM
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Alright guys so I'm at a point with the car that it's getting way to difficult to drive. I'm thinking about just brining it to a firestone and having them clean everything out. Any thoughts?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 10:18 AM
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Were you having symptoms before the work you did? I ask because I got that code when my intake manifold bolts loosen up and were leaking. Check them but be careful not to strip the bolt heads. 20nm or 15 ft lbs. Does it run good under heavy throttle? Bad at cruise and light throttle?

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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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Yes undwe heavy throttle the car seems fine, but cruising is really rough
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
Were you having symptoms before the work you did? I ask because I got that code when my intake manifold bolts loosen up and were leaking. Check them but be careful not to strip the bolt heads. 20nm or 15 ft lbs. Does it run good under heavy throttle? Bad at cruise and light throttle?

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No the symptoms appeared after my intakes were replaced. About 3 days after. And yeah casting in the car is really rough vs. Heavy throttle
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 03:11 PM
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The DCAI and cat back shouldn't be the cause. The ECU would adjust to it quickly IMO. More likely something inadvertently loose or off. I'm hoping you've unknowingly disconnected the hose under the throttle body. For the car to run badly under part throttle you'd have to have a whopper of a leak. Did you take the throttle body off? If so look in that area.

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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
The DCAI and cat back shouldn't be the cause. The ECU would adjust to it quickly IMO. More likely something inadvertently loose or off. I'm hoping you've unknowingly disconnected the hose under the throttle body. For the car to run badly under part throttle you'd have to have a whopper of a leak. Did you take the throttle body off? If so look in that area.

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No I haven't yet. But this morning I went to start the car and the car basically couldn't dtive. It was like something was jammed in my throttle and it wouldn't allow the car to go past 1500 rpm and it jumped around alot as well in between 100 rpm to 1500
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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I was also told by the guy that put my intakes on that it was my idle control motor.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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I was also told by the guy that put my intakes on that it was my idle control motor.
Well, I guess he is a bunch smarter than the rest of us to discover that you have an "idle control motor".
None of the rest of the M112 engine owners have one of those.
We just get by on having the PTCM tell the throttle body to open a smeech bit more, or close the butterfly a trifle to maintain the proper idle RPM.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
Well, I guess he is a bunch smarter than the rest of us to discover that you have an "idle control motor".
None of the rest of the M112 engine owners have one of those.
We just get by on having the PTCM tell the throttle body to open a smeech bit more, or close the butterfly a trifle to maintain the proper idle RPM.
Yeah I didn't think I had a idle control motor but he insisted that I do. So I'll check if that hose fell out that you were talking about, but would that cause my car to basically stop running ?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 03:55 PM
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If you have a severe vacuum leak, then your symptoms fit.
the leak could be anywhere, but I'd pay special attention to any of the areas involved with the work you just had done.

As a test, unplug the hose that runs from the manifold to the valve on the driver's side fender ( that is the canister purge valve ).
If it makes a big difference, then maybe you don't have a vacuum leak.

As another test, unplug the MAF/IAT sensor in the CAI, see what that does.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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So whenever I turn my key to the electrical mode (not cranking it over ) the throttle body makes all theset weird clicking noises and I'm thinking of pulling the throttle body and cleaning it. How would I go about cleaning an srt throttle body?
 
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