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Old 11-17-2007, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HDDP
Lantana, here's the dimensions you asked for

Exhaust manifold exit at the downpipe connection ID is 46mm
Bolt holes center to center is 80mm

The edge of the bell housing to the center of the mounting bolt of the engine mount (this is the top bolt shown in this photo) is 10 5/8"

And the edge of the bell housing to the leading edge of the lower oil pan is 23"... There are actually 2 oil pans on these engines, but I knew you needed the furthermost forward edge...

I hope this helps, if you need any other measurements let me know...
Thank you very much for taking time to help me out. I really appreciate it vey much! I will let you know by tomorrow night what I have come up with.
 
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:05 PM
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Thank you very much for taking time to help me out. I really appreciate it vey much! I will let you know by tomorrow night what I have come up with.
No problem... I hope this works out for you... It would be a wicked fast car with a V8...
 
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:08 PM
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it shoulda came with a v8 in the first place, DAMN you to hell DC!
 
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:19 PM
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it shoulda came with a v8 in the first place, DAMN you to hell DC!
agreed, hell everything should come with at least a v8 imo.
 
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:11 PM
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The new custom Bell Heat-Exchanger arrived today... Gerhard Schruf did a great job... Dimensions are 83mm D X 165mm H X 457mm L with 14 transverse cooling tubes that are 3mm X 165mm X 381mm... The inlet / outlet tubes of the heat-exchanger are 20mm OD / 13mm ID...

This matches almost perfectly with the new Johnson intercooler pump, which has 20mm OD / 15mm ID inlet / outlet tubes... And the OEM intercooler which has 16mm OD x 13mm ID inlet / outlet tubes...

Now I'm waiting on the Fin Tubing from Cain Industries and the completion of the cooing tank, then I can start on the plumbing...
 
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:13 PM
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Photos of the transverse tubes ... And also the link for the I/O intercooler monitoring system...

http://www.spa-uk.co.uk/design/produ...t=DG%20224|407

Sorry guys, I'm starting to use this thread as my note pad...

(1) The new heat-exchanger has an appx volume of 1,100 ml...
(2) The OEM intercooler has an appx volume of 550 ml...
 
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:46 PM
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For the notepad, here's an LKQ eBay listing for an SRT-6 engine assembly with 3,000 miles for a starting bid of $2,400 but no bidders yet.
 
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:09 PM
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For the notepad, here's an LKQ eBay listing for an SRT-6 engine assembly with 3,000 miles for a starting bid of $2,400 but no bidders yet.
Amazing how they have had so many SRT6 engines... That's where I got mine a few months ago... Must be a lot of people crashing those cars... There were no bids on the one I bought either...
 
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:20 AM
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For the notepad, here's an LKQ eBay listing for an SRT-6 engine assembly with 3,000 miles for a starting bid of $2,400 but no bidders yet.
That is a great deal! It is amazing how much more the exact same engine goes for when it is out of a SLK32 or a C32! If you buy this make sure you are getting an uncut engine harness and ECU if you think about putting this in a n/a Crossfire.
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:04 PM
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Because I'm too lazy to read the whole thread again I'll put it simply.

That price is just to freakin amazing. If I got the entire engine and uncut wiring harness with ECU would this be possible to put into my NA?

Will a competant Mercedes mechanic be able to do this? What cost do you think it would be for the swap?

What other parts would be needed.

Sorry HDDP, I really am sorry for even asking this. LOL
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:52 PM
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lol I am going to leave the above tread alone lol But I do want to know where I can get an inter cooler gauge like that. I see it says SPA design looked on th this website http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/spagauge1.htm are those prices what you paid I know you have a lot of ins just wondering when I do my pod where I could get them cheaper if that be the case?
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MAYAman
Because I'm too lazy to read the whole thread again I'll put it simply.

That price is just to freakin amazing. If I got the entire engine and uncut wiring harness with ECU would this be possible to put into my NA?

Will a competant Mercedes mechanic be able to do this? What cost do you think it would be for the swap?

What other parts would be needed.

Sorry HDDP, I really am sorry for even asking this. LOL
You may want to read the last few post on my thread relating to my V8 conversion. I am dealing many of the same ECU issues. In theory, I have solved this. But will not know for sure for a few more weeks. The theory according my sources which also include Kleeman is that you will need the ECU from the Donor or one from an SRT-6. You then have the ECU unlocked by beckman technologies. Unlocking wipes clean all the immobilization coding including the embeded VIN number. You then need a good mercedes mechanic that has the Mercedes Star Diagonostic system which is used to progem the ECU to the car. in this process the ECU learns your imobilization codes including the VIN. After the cars has been started three times the ECU locks and has far as it is concerned your car came with a supercharged V6. You could run into problems programing for a manual since it never existed. HDDP has a manual and a track only car, so it makes more sense for him to use the Motec system as he will have a lot more flexibility to tune it and monitor the engine.

The mechanical aspect is less intimidating and is a bolt in swap. I don't believe you are looking at anythng that would be very challenging to overcome.
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:40 AM
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Alright, before I post what I was going to, I have to answer the post from MAYAMAN... The mechanics of the swap are relatively simple if you are taking the SRT6 engine and installing it into a Auto Trans or 6spd... You will have to change / add some parts for the IC / SC, but it's a bolt-on and you will need to upgrade your clutch, otherwise you'll be replacing it every 10,000 miles for a regular driving car... (IMHO)

As LantanaTX stated, and as he and I have discussed over the phone, the electronics are going to be the nightmare for a daily driver car and will cost you more time and money than what the engine costs... I would guess that you're going to pay $5,000 +++ to get the additional new sensors and electronics to work... IF you can find someone in your area that can do the job... Otherwise, my guess is that you will have to ship the car to the people that LantanaTX is digging-up... So, that would mean Florida for the Renntech work, and Colorado for the Kleeman work... Unless they have distributors / installers in your area...

That's all I have to say about this subject, because I think LantanaTX has done more research on how to achieve the electronics for a daily driver... I have it EASY, I'm a track car that doesn't need anything working except for the engine systems / gauges and brake lights, with the functionality of adjusting tuning parameters from my laptop while I'm at the track... Heck, that's about all that's in the car anyway...
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:51 AM
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Now, back to what I was going to post... I finally got the polishing done and I picked it up before work today... Those of you who know this engine will understand how I removed all the sand casting roughness and had it polished by MasterCraft Metal Polishing... Here are photos of some of the pieces I did...

Now that everything is done to the engine, I can start reassembling it...
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:55 AM
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Continuing the post...
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:50 AM
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WOW...I'm impressed...that looks great! It's almost a shame that it's going on a track only car.

I think you may have just spawned ideas in a bunch of people's heads that are going to want to do the same thing to their parts!

Just curious....roughly how long did it take to do, and about how much cash in consumable items and labor?
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:59 AM
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Looking forward to HDDP posting some times etc. when this bad boy is finished and he's comfortable with throwing it into bends at break-neck speeds.
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:24 AM
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Did you put anything on top of the polished metal to help keep it clean, or do you intend to continually polish it?

Looks great!

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Old 11-29-2007, 06:52 AM
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HDDP, The engine will look amazing! Maybe you should consider track/and some shows. I was going to polish my V8 valve covers and some of my hot rod firends told me that the valve covers are magnesium and will drive me crazy if I want to keep them shiny. they suggested Endura Shine powdercoating. I saw this on a small block chevy intake manifold and I counldn't tell if it was chrome or ploshed. to stay in budget, I will most likely be painting mine this weekend.
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:02 AM
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Thanks HDDP. The car is not a daily driver and is an automatic. I have a Grand Prix I use for daily chores and the Porsche and Crossfire for weekends. The mechanicals seem like the easy part obviously. Ugh, I know I would have to ship it and I have no problem with that as long as its a reputable place.

I'll pick Latana's brain and won't soil your thread any more.
 


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