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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 02:07 PM
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What do you think caused this damage?? Squirrel Crusher
Originally Posted by matabufalez
Hello,
I am repairing my Xfire and in Spain is hard to find spares for this car.
As you can see my flange is damaged so I am looking for a New one.
I checked on Moparts some references, but i dont know of they are correct.
It is a Crossfire 3.2V6 218hp 6-speed manual from 2004.

https://www.moparpartsgiant.com/part...=Limited+Coupe)

What is the equivalent R170 3.2 reference if aplicable?
Thank you!




 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Single piece aluminum driveshaft

Originally Posted by Squirrel Crusher
What do you think caused this damage?? Squirrel Crusher
As I could see, the nut that fixes the flange was out of his location, and caused the damage.
In a 420.000km car, it is "acceptable"
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Single piece aluminum driveshaft

Originally Posted by matabufalez
Hello,
I am repairing my Xfire and in Spain is hard to find spares for this car.
As you can see my flange is damaged so I am looking for a New one.
I checked on Moparts some references, but i dont know of they are correct.
It is a Crossfire 3.2V6 218hp 6-speed manual from 2004.

What is the equivalent R170 3.2 reference if aplicable?
Thank you!
The part you want has the number on the part you show, the last numbers are 01 45.



 
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Single piece aluminum driveshaft

Originally Posted by onehundred80
The part you want has the number on the part you show, the last numbers are 01 45.
Hello,

Thank you, but are you sure?
I went to MB spares dealer, and we were looking the r170 320 spare list and the flange was something like A211xxxxx. The salesperson told me those number was not a reference.
 

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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by matabufalez
Hello,

Thank you, but are you sure?
I went to MB spares dealer, and we were looking the r170 320 spare list and the flange was something like A211xxxxx. The salesperson told me those number was not a reference.
What number does your broken part show?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
What number does your broken part show?
Something like...
MB logo 15 P 01 45 FA
After check the VIN and the 2004 manual, I should buy this one:
05099266AA
 
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 08:25 AM
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Default Re: Single piece aluminum driveshaft

Originally Posted by matabufalez
Something like...
MB logo 15 P 01 45 FA
After check the VIN and the 2004 manual, I should buy this one:
05099266AA
That is the Chrysler part number, buy it and you will get the Mercedes part in a bag with the Mercedes part number A211xxxxxc covered with the Chrysler part number label. It will cost much more after Chrysler marks up the price.
Get the Mercedes part if you can figure it out properly.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
That is the Chrysler part number, buy it and you will get the Mercedes part in a bag with the Mercedes part number A211xxxxxc covered with the Chrysler part number label. It will cost much more after Chrysler marks up the price.
Get the Mercedes part if you can figure it out properly.
Yez, I know this car is 90% MB, also this piece has the MB logo
The cost of this flange in MB is about 120$. I called Lancia-Chrysler dealer, and they said me it would took 3 weeks in arrive, because it comes from USA(lol)
 
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by matabufalez
Yez, I know this car is 90% MB, also this piece has the MB logo
The cost of this flange in MB is about 120$. I called Lancia-Chrysler dealer, and they said me it would took 3 weeks in arrive, because it comes from USA(lol)
Amazing.
If the part it contacts is damaged the new part will possibly not fit or maybe it will get damaged again. Maybe you should change both parts.
 

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Old Apr 15, 2019 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel Crusher
What do you think caused this damage?? Squirrel Crusher
Wow, I am surprised the nutt came loose.

Grats on your 420,000 km

Hiw is the splines on the tail shaft, I hope with some work with a file on the splines and a new seal you can slide the new prop on.

 
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Old Apr 15, 2019 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedy4x4
Wow, I am surprised the nutt came loose.

Grats on your 420,000 km

Hiw is the splines on the tail shaft, I hope with some work with a file on the splines and a new seal you can slide the new prop on.
Hello,
Really, the car is not mine and I received it as a gift when it came broken. The car repair store said it was a clutch failure and budget about 1500€ for repair it, so the owner after this 420.000Km got another car and give me the Xfire.All that km have been made on highway, so the mecanic parts are in a very good condition

The tail shaft looks quite good, It hasnīt damage on the splines. My worry is about the nut, I will tight to the torque (180Nm) and use loctite 243 to prevent another failure.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2019 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by matabufalez
Hello,
Really, the car is not mine and I received it as a gift when it came broken. The car repair store said it was a clutch failure and budget about 1500€ for repair it, so the owner after this 420.000Km got another car and give me the Xfire.All that km have been made on highway, so the mecanic parts are in a very good condition

The tail shaft looks quite good, It hasnīt damage on the splines. My worry is about the nut, I will tight to the torque (180Nm) and use loctite 243 to prevent another failure.
Glad the tail shaft is ok, was wondering by the splines on the 3 arm prop being messed up on both ends.

Before you put the prop back on, can you do me a favor and take a few pics of the tail shaft and splines .

When I was working on my single piece driveshaft I had some leads for yokes to bolt on, just never took off my props, just made some adapters to bolt on the props, and got a aluminum driveshaft with slip, cut down, rewelded and balanced.

Rare to have a nutt from a prop or yoke come loose, usually it is a pain to get it off.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2019 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedy4x4
Glad the tail shaft is ok, was wondering by the splines on the 3 arm prop being messed up on both ends.

Before you put the prop back on, can you do me a favor and take a few pics of the tail shaft and splines .

When I was working on my single piece driveshaft I had some leads for yokes to bolt on, just never took off my props, just made some adapters to bolt on the props, and got a aluminum driveshaft with slip, cut down, rewelded and balanced.

Rare to have a nutt from a prop or yoke come loose, usually it is a pain to get it off.
Hello,
I didnīt plan disassembly the rear flange, so I canīt see the splines on it (I need a long 32-34 key). Here I give you some pics, I hope you can see it, here Iīve seen youīre talking about balanced driveshaft but I didnīt make any mark to the coupler (bad done?)






 
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Old Apr 15, 2019 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by matabufalez
Hello,
I didnīt plan disassembly the rear flange, so I canīt see the splines on it (I need a long 32-34 key). Here I give you some pics, I hope you can see it, here Iīve seen youīre talking about balanced driveshaft but I didnīt make any mark to the coupler (bad done?)
Ty, don't take off the rear if you don't have to, so you don't have to get mess with the crush washer.
I just mentioned rebalancing the driveshaft since I completely changed mine out, I got rid of the two piece driveshaft, front and rear flex discs and the ce ter carrier bearing and put in a single piece aluminum with a slip and 1310 joints..
I was going to bolt on yokes right on the output shaft and pinion, but would have to cut off the pilots, not a big deal, ut then wouldn't be able to go back to original driveshaft if I wanted to, and making it to where it would be easy for anyone to change if they wanted to.
Deep throat yokes clear the pinion but cost 3x more.

Since it is all out, good time to change the carrier bearing and flex discs, then be good to go for a while.
And since you are changing everything out I wouldn't worry about marking driveshaft before disassembly.
 
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