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Old May 17, 2015 | 01:26 AM
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I'm a fairly new member on here and have observed some interesting if not dichotomous behavior.

Newbies are often chastised for not using the search feature.

Anyone posting at the end of an old thread that is relevant to their problem/ concern/ interest that would have been found using the search function are then castigated for doing so.

My experience elsewhere, folks are highly encouraged to keep new on-topic posts in the same thread for continuity of replies and for preservation of the information promulgated.

So....what is considered proper etiquette on this forum with respect to on-topic posts?
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 07:49 AM
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You realize, of course, that this is "Forum Troubleshooting", right?

Now, if you were having trouble, say, with posting photos, this would be the place!
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 07:53 AM
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LOL!

I joined in 2007. I read pretty much the entire site at that time. I didn't want to seem lazy or too busy to look things up myself.

I have 2 children. They were taught better than to burst into a room and start whining or asking others to "do for them".
Everyone on the planet shouldn't either. The world would be a better place...

As to those who pin a tail on a near-dead donkey-we're just having fun at their expense! Try it-you'll like it.
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 07:56 AM
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Of course, there are those here that are just...irritable...at all times. You know who.
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 10:37 AM
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Much as Maxcichon, I came on board and spent tons of time reading through threads - old and new as they came up. No issues with the car but the quest for knowledge on them. I guess I've kind of gotten an attitude of "if your to lazy to look and read - how far are you really going to go with a wrench". And anyone who comes on board 3/4 "demanding" answers and a following to there situation I find it very easy to ignore and or poke with a stick.


And as a side note "on topic post" become optional after the first 10 or less posts in a thread.. LOL
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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I have been here for a while, I started looking at the forum when I purchased my car in October 2005 and I joined early in 2006.
What I did notice were people telling others to do something that made no sense. I jumped in and in my usual blunt way I disagreed with them, this raised some hackles but I did not care. If someone is wrong I am not going to skirt around the issue and type a book, I'll just tell them what I think. Many of the posts I answered were not based on any sound engineering principle that I had learned. Pulleys and bearings were a hot topic in those old days, pulleys still are a hot topic come to think of it.
I think I have added to the discussions positively and I have probably got more stickies than most, likewise the contributions I have made in the documentation thread. I get the most negative responses from people who have added little or nothing to this forum.
I do not bother to reply to people who demand answers and who will most likely write snarky posts when nobody replies to them. I have found the words please and thank you are absent from their vocabulary.
Most posts to years old threads are answers to the original question, generally the poster is new to the forum and many times the OP's have long since left the forum.
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GregWork
I'm a fairly new member on here and have observed some interesting if not dichotomous behavior.

Newbies are often chastised for not using the search feature.

Anyone posting at the end of an old thread that is relevant to their problem/ concern/ interest that would have been found using the search function are then castigated for doing so.

My experience elsewhere, folks are highly encouraged to keep new on-topic posts in the same thread for continuity of replies and for preservation of the information promulgated.

So....what is considered proper etiquette on this forum with respect to on-topic posts?
Hi Greg, Sorry it took me so long to answer . . . I had to look up several of those big words in the dictionary. Never to old or too smart to learn something new you know . . .

My humble opinion is that if you're interested and passionate about your Crossfire and actually came to this site seeking answers and intending to fix the issue(s) yourself, you need to be willing to take the time and search for your topic of concern and actually READ what comes up to find the answers to your issue(s). This site is truly an amazing store house of knowledge about the Crossfire. Everything is really right here at your finger tips. If for some reason you can't find what you want THEN you should post a request for assistance. Newbies kind of need to welcomed but then trained one at a time . . .

Oh . . . and by the way . . . you posted your concern in the wrong category!
 

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Old May 17, 2015 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RED DOG

Oh . . . and by the way . . . you posted your concern in the wrong category!
GregWork - This fact alone makes searching a tedious task at times. Many of the threads get "off stream" when a fellow Forum Member digresses from the original inquiry. So one has to learn to use the Advanced Search and look for references to a particular issue you're having. You'll be surprised sometimes where the answer you're looking for is found.

The TSB's & How-To Section under Technical is an excellent area to find the solution to many of the Crossfire's quirky traits. Many of the Forum Members have spent considerable time putting together threads that really drive home Corrective Repairs & Improvements to the Crossfire.

And if you're still not able to locate what you're looking for, start a new thread in the appropriate category and someone will eventually steer you in the right direction. And yes, you'll probably get some feedback occasionally that rubs you the wrong way. Learn to recognize the individuals that respond that way and ignor their responses if at all possible. (Not that easy for some of us!) But it makes for an interesting forum!

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Old May 18, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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Welcome to the Crossfire shark tank.
When I started with this forum, I hadn't even bought a Crossfire yet. I used this forum to learn as much about this car as I could to assist in my purchase. And I learned a lot in a short amount of time.
That said, its pretty difficult to navigate for answers when your not even sure what the question is. Sometimes we forget what a head start we have over those who are new to the forum. More so, I think we forget just what a vast amount of information there is to sift through.
It's funny, that some here choose to be as unhelpful as possible. They will take the time to post a negative reply, instead of directing the person in the right direction. Possibly you might have a more positive experience helping others, instead of accusing them of laziness, or ignorance.
Are things so tough that we forgot to be nice?
 
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Old May 18, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rush549
Welcome to the Crossfire shark tank.
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Are things so tough that we forgot to be nice?
Do not forget that many new members demand answers, they cannot use the word please in their request or thank you when they have a reply. Most likely they will not bother to reply at all.
They seem to forget that it is not their mother who will be answering their demands.
 
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Old May 18, 2015 | 10:05 AM
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You ralize that having two "search" boxes - one for the site and one for the thread does not help anything.

I've been online since the last century and remember when my Judge was new (had a Buick GS then). Forums have not changed much since the usenet, AOL, and Prodigy daze. (Now my Prodigy is a brake controller).

Heck I remember when to send eMail to Europe you had to route through columbia.edu (what the % is for) and Google (googleplex) was being demo'ed at DefCon in Vegas.

For example most questions will just languish unless the proper sacrifices have been made. OTOH propose an answer and people will come out of the woodwork to say where you are wrong. Is really an effective technique partly because some knowlege is demonstrated even if rong.

For example "is my battery bad ?" comes under the heading of "insufficient data" where "Is a Duracell H6 AGM a good replacement battery ?" shows some knowlege of the issue & opinions will probably follow.

Pictures are nice.
 
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Old May 18, 2015 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Padgett
You ralize that having two "search" boxes - one for the site and one for the thread does not help anything.
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I'll have to file that under "opinion" instead of "facts" since I myself have used it on occasion to keep from reading through multiple post.
 
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Old May 18, 2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Do not forget that many new members demand answers, they cannot use the word please in their request or thank you when they have a reply. Most likely they will not bother to reply at all.
They seem to forget that it is not their mother who will be answering their demands.
I agree. Yet too many stand on formality. Screw that! I bought this car to escape formality. Though your sense of satire has brought a lot of grief your way, I think you would agree.
Let it be known. My reply was not directed at you. No one has done more to bring necessary information together than you. In my opinion, you can't ask for more.
Group hugs, anyone?
 

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Old May 18, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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I think sometimes a few have been here so long and know so much that they have a "You idiot, use the search box" mentality. If I ask a question it is not because I did not try to look it up. Maybe, just maybe, there is new information as our cars age or the issues have increased from the post dated 2006.
 
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