Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
Re: Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
Well, tomorrow's the big day.
First, I need to correct my earlier statement that the SCCA SEB was rational and kept the NA Crossfire in DS. They weren't and didn't. It's in FS, which pits it against Camaros, Mustangs, and other V8s, which only share their RWD with the NA Crossfire.
Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to the autocross and the opportunity to embarrass at least one or two Camaros in the process. I'll take some pics, provide some observations, and report the results, whether good or bad.
First, I need to correct my earlier statement that the SCCA SEB was rational and kept the NA Crossfire in DS. They weren't and didn't. It's in FS, which pits it against Camaros, Mustangs, and other V8s, which only share their RWD with the NA Crossfire.
Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to the autocross and the opportunity to embarrass at least one or two Camaros in the process. I'll take some pics, provide some observations, and report the results, whether good or bad.
Re: Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
Well, yesterday didn't turn out as I had hoped. I was third in a class of eight. Two of the faster guys in FS ran in the X-Pro class. So, I was really fifth out of ten.
The car didn't handle as well as I had anticipated. The front stuck really well--never pushed once. The rear, however, was very loose. I didn't adjust the Konis in the rear (they are set in the middle between full stiff and full soft). I need to get some practice and try setting them softer. The fronts were 1/4 turn from full stiff. I think that I'll increase the fronts to full stiff. I had 38 psi in the fronts, which according to the scuffing, was good. The rears had 37 psi, but I eventually dropped them to 35 psi.
My fastest raw time (I hit one cone) was my first run, which never is the case. I should have improved by at least 2-3 seconds, but on each run, the rear was really loose.
It was a 38-45 second course, depending on the car and driver. I should have been in the 40s, but I was in the 44s most of the runs. We only got four runs (there were more than 150 drivers registered).
Any advice on setup would be appreciated.
The results are here: https://axwaresystems.com/axorm/cale...iewevent=11667
The car didn't handle as well as I had anticipated. The front stuck really well--never pushed once. The rear, however, was very loose. I didn't adjust the Konis in the rear (they are set in the middle between full stiff and full soft). I need to get some practice and try setting them softer. The fronts were 1/4 turn from full stiff. I think that I'll increase the fronts to full stiff. I had 38 psi in the fronts, which according to the scuffing, was good. The rears had 37 psi, but I eventually dropped them to 35 psi.
My fastest raw time (I hit one cone) was my first run, which never is the case. I should have improved by at least 2-3 seconds, but on each run, the rear was really loose.
It was a 38-45 second course, depending on the car and driver. I should have been in the 40s, but I was in the 44s most of the runs. We only got four runs (there were more than 150 drivers registered).
Any advice on setup would be appreciated.
The results are here: https://axwaresystems.com/axorm/cale...iewevent=11667
Last edited by shaag78749; 01-27-2014 at 03:38 PM. Reason: add results
Re: Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
Thanks, Les. I'll check the toe in the rear.
Re: Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
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Crossfire
SRT-6 (2005-2006)
The NA Crossfire is in F Street as well as the SRT-6. BTW, I complained personally to Steve Hudson, who is a member of the Solo Board, at the event on Sunday. He passed the blame to Vivik Goel, who also autocrosses with the same club. However, I don't know Vivik well enough to complain. All RWD cars were apparently moved to F Street, regardless of whether they would be competitive or not. One of the Camaros that I beat on Sunday was the V6.
Last edited by shaag78749; 01-29-2014 at 07:23 PM. Reason: correct error
Re: Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
I see that now. Since I have run in DSP last year, I only looked in both DSR and DSP classes, and the NA Crossfire is in both of those. If you are running street tires and stock, then they classed the Crossfire in FS. Interesting. I'll be running in DSP again this year.
Find a NASA club. They have a different classing method, and the Crossfire stock is at the bottom of E. You can do a lot to the car and never leave E. I won E my first year, modded the car and moved up to D, and won D the second year in that class.
Good luck.
Find a NASA club. They have a different classing method, and the Crossfire stock is at the bottom of E. You can do a lot to the car and never leave E. I won E my first year, modded the car and moved up to D, and won D the second year in that class.
Good luck.
Re: Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
Thanks, and good luck to you also, but apparently you don't need any luck. I wish that I could do as well.
Mine is stock with the exception of Konis and H&R front bar. I really like the people in the two clubs that I autocross with in San Antonio and Austin; so I probably won't look for a NASA club.
Mine is stock with the exception of Konis and H&R front bar. I really like the people in the two clubs that I autocross with in San Antonio and Austin; so I probably won't look for a NASA club.
Re: Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
I went to Harris Hill Raceway yesterday and ran their 1.8 mile road course in the Crossfire and got it sorted out. Then I went autocrossing today at San Marcos Airport on concrete. Much better results than last event:
Summary 'F Stock' Total Entries: 8
1T 63 Stefan H Chrysler Crossfire 39.010 [-]0.151
2T 44 Shawn M Bimmah tree too ate 39.161 +0.151 +0.151
3T 13 Jack M Tesla Model S 39.442 +0.281 +0.432
4 81 Minh N BMW 135i 40.328 +0.886 +1.318
5 3 Sondra S Tesla 40.927 +0.599 +1.917
6 67 Clayton L BMW 325i 42.159 +1.232 +3.149
7 181 Ira C BMW 135i 42.159 +0.000 +3.149
8 14 Chris C BMW 330Ci 42.885 +0.726 +3.875
Needless to say, I'm very pleased!
Summary 'F Stock' Total Entries: 8
1T 63 Stefan H Chrysler Crossfire 39.010 [-]0.151
2T 44 Shawn M Bimmah tree too ate 39.161 +0.151 +0.151
3T 13 Jack M Tesla Model S 39.442 +0.281 +0.432
4 81 Minh N BMW 135i 40.328 +0.886 +1.318
5 3 Sondra S Tesla 40.927 +0.599 +1.917
6 67 Clayton L BMW 325i 42.159 +1.232 +3.149
7 181 Ira C BMW 135i 42.159 +0.000 +3.149
8 14 Chris C BMW 330Ci 42.885 +0.726 +3.875
Needless to say, I'm very pleased!
Re: Getting Ready for 2014 Autocrossing
I softened the rear shock settings on the Konis, raised the pressure on the fronts to 39-40 psi, and lowered the pressure on the rears to 34-35 psi. I think that it was loose in the rear at the last autocross because I was lifting on the throttle after starting the turn. The laps on the road course made me more aware of holding the throttle setting once I started the turn. I'm really impressed with the BFG Rivals that are on the front. They're very similar to the BFG R1s that I ran on my Neon ACR in the late 1990s and early 2000s. They like a high pressure setting. I'm so glad that I beat the Tesla, which was driven by a very experienced driver.
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