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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 07:17 PM
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My local Chrysler dealer doesn't want anything to do with a Crossfire. I bought a oil extraction pump, two 5 gallon containers of Mobile 1, 0W-40 European Car Formula Synthetic Motor Oil, Mobile 1 filter. I've watch YouTube videos and searched the forums to see how to do this work. This forum has really help with great insight. I'm asking if there is anything I should be aware of or do. Thanks
 
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 07:24 PM
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The oil filter will have a supply of o-rings with it, replace all the o-rings on the filter carrier. You will have one ring left over.
Put only eight quarts in, no, I do not care what the manual says.

If using an extractor pump (I never would), make SURE you use the dipstick to verify how full it is. If you don't get all oil out, even 8 quarts may overfill it.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 07:31 PM
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Replace O-rings # 1, 2, 3, 5
Do not attempt to remove the stalk to replace #4
When replacing #5 be absolutely sure to place it in the correct groove
We highly suggest the Mann Fleece oil filter rather than a paper oil filter
Be sure the filter is pushed all the way onto the stalk as far as it will go
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 08:08 PM
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The oil filter will have a supply of o-rings with it, replace all the o-rings on the filter carrier. You will have one ring left over.
Put only eight quarts in, no, I do not care what the manual says.

If using an extractor pump (I never would), make SURE you use the dipstick to verify how full it is. If you don't get all oil out, even 8 quarts may overfill it.
Is there a drain plug? How do you drain the pan? Thanks
 
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Valk
Replace O-rings # 1, 2, 3, 5
Do not attempt to remove the stalk to replace #4
When replacing #5 be absolutely sure to place it in the correct groove
We highly suggest the Mann Fleece oil filter rather than a paper oil filter
Be sure the filter is pushed all the way onto the stalk as far as it will go
Photos below to help






Thanks. Good advise.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Valk
Replace O-rings # 1, 2, 3, 5
Do not attempt to remove the stalk to replace #4
When replacing #5 be absolutely sure to place it in the correct groove
We highly suggest the Mann Fleece oil filter rather than a paper oil filter
Be sure the filter is pushed all the way onto the stalk as far as it will go
Photos below to help



To add to what Gary posted, when you place the 'O' ring on the cap (#5), make sure the indent at the top IS NOT where you place the 'O' ring. If you look closely, it is actually the second indent (the one below the top gap), where 'O' ring #5 sits. Many have used that top groove only to find the oil later sprayed all over the engine compartment from it leaking all around the cap. IF properly placed, you'll see that gap between the O ring and the rim of the cap. IF wrong, the O ring will be touching the cap rim. Also, if you use that suction pump, add 7 quarts, button it all up, and run the car for a few seconds. Then check the oil after giving the oil time to drain back into the pan (then adding to your satisfaction). I have found if the car isn't pretty level while sucking the old oil out, some oil remains. If you add 8 quarts based on this, you might be over the top level (which has caused some problems long term with a 'sticking' electronic level sensor). If your oil level sensor sticks, it sometimes displays on the dash (annoying), and costs quite a few if you replace that oil level sensor in the pan area. It is very easy to change the oil using a suction kit, I do it all the time (use a suction kit, called a topsider). Have fun, be careful, and good luck!


PS: if you use a little oil on the inside top and bottom of the filter, it slips into the top of the stack a lot easier.


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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BarbarianCBX
My local Chrysler dealer doesn't want anything to do with a Crossfire. I bought a oil extraction pump, two 5 gallon containers of Mobile 1, 0W-40 European Car Formula Synthetic Motor Oil, Mobile 1 filter. I've watch YouTube videos and searched the forums to see how to do this work. This forum has really help with great insight. I'm asking if there is anything I should be aware of or do. Thanks
That mobile filter will collapse before you run 6000 miles. I know as I tried one once. Best to use a felt filter. The proper filter is shown in one of the above photos; Mann 718/5
 
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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 11:59 PM
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That mobile filter will collapse before you run 6000 miles. I know as I tried one once. Best to use a felt filter. The proper filter is shown in one of the above photos; Mann 718/5
Those Mann HU 718/5 filters are actually Polyester and that is the type you want, none of those paper ones are good for long as they collapse.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 08:58 AM
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Thanks. Just bought the Mann HU 718/5 filter. It was $5 cheaper than the Mobile 1 filter.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BarbarianCBX
Thanks. Just bought the Mann HU 718/5 filter. It was $5 cheaper than the Mobile 1 filter.
Hi Folks to continue this thread but maybe I need new glasses, but just installed a Mann 718/5x. I still see the two black marks on the filter whether I flip it over or not. Is the Mann name suppose to be at the top or bottom?
 

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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 01:03 PM
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I don't think you have pushed it in far enough. try twisting it a bit as you push it in.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 01:14 PM
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I don't think you have pushed it in far enough. try twisting it a bit as you push it in.
This is how it should look, you only see one line as the first line gets hidden inside the filter housing.
Note the O-ring in the correct groove.

 
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 01:47 PM
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Hi ZERACER and onehundred80, thanks for the response and yes pull the housing back out and pushed down on the filter a little more and one of the bands disappeared. who would of thought. Guess I was afraid to use some force on it and it might have helped to oil the top and bottom of the neck on the filter to insure it goes on easier. Well time for a bud-light
 
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mariontr
Hi Folks to continue this thread but maybe I need new glasses, but just installed a Mann 718/5x. I still see the two black marks on the filter whether I flip it over or not. Is the Mann name suppose to be at the top or bottom?
After owning three Roadsters over ten years and 100,000 miels, I can tell you it does not matter.

What matters is that you use the Mann fleece filter, not the paper one; and that you replace the o-rings and position that top one properly.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 02:57 PM
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Good to know that pizzaguy, the baby only has 76318 miles on it. So 100K here I come.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mariontr
Hi ZERACER and onehundred80, thanks for the response and yes pull the housing back out and pushed down on the filter a little more and one of the bands disappeared. who would of thought. Guess I was afraid to use some force on it and it might have helped to oil the top and bottom of the neck on the filter to insure it goes on easier. Well time for a bud-light
I always put oil on O-rings when installing something that uses them even when the part appears to have some on it already. The last thing you need is to pinch and nick the O-ring when installing the part with them on.

The so-called ‘fleece’ filters are in fact made from Polyester, my 2004 Crossfires came with a paper filter but the FSS was set at 11,000 km oil change limit.
 

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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 05:42 PM
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I always put oil on O-rings when installing something that uses them even when the part appears to have some on it already. The last thing you need is to pinch and nick the O-ring when installing the part with them on.

The so-called ‘fleece’ filters are in fact made from Polyester, my 2004 Crossfires came with a paper filter but the FSS was set at 11,000 km oil change limit.


Second that on using some oil on the "O" rings, this allows easy assembly of the filter and housing parts, to the car engine. Otherwise, you MIGHT crimp or dislodge any (or) a portion of the filter (to its correct position). Have fun, and good luck!


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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 08:54 PM
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The so-called ‘fleece’ filters are in fact made from Polyester, my 2004 Crossfires came with a paper filter but the FSS was set at 11,000 km oil change limit.
No sheep were harmed in making this oil change .....
 
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 10:31 AM
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So are you saying that the paper filters can serve the purpose if it was changed based on the 11000km (converted to 6835 miles) since the Crossfires originally came with them installed?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 12:21 PM
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So are you saying that the paper filters can serve the purpose if it was changed based on the 11000km (converted to 6835 miles) since the Crossfires originally came with them installed?
I am not saying that at all, I would say that a paper filter would only last a couple of thousand miles. You state figures that are applicable to the Polyester filter, how do you get to that conclusion.
Under no circumstances would I recommend a paper filter and if you go to a quick oil change garage that is what you will get, and they will collapse.
I cannot swear that the 2004 models came with paper filters, it is a long time ago now. The 2004 Owners Manual mentions the 7,000 mile oil change.
 
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