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Old Sep 7, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Had Walmart put in a MAXX H6 today......fit perfect.....$98 + tax.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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Went to start the coupe and click, click, click!
Tried again and it started. I didn't mess around.
Next day went to NAPA and ordered the replacement battery. $138.
Could have saved some $$$ looking around but it was just one of those, "ya gotta do it right" thingys.
Great piece of mind and no more click, click, click!
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Found my Odyssey on sale for $135 here ....

EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts

Mines over 2 yrs old and not a single problem. Only 15.6 lbs and can even be mounted behind the passenger seat! Opens your battery area for maybe a small NOX bottle
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 06:04 AM
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Earlier this month I replaced the battery on the 07 (OEM was a Varta). Since the car was built in March of 07 I figured the battery might be 5 years old. Went with the Walmart H6 Everstart..

Yesterday I got to looking at the 08 (built Dec. 07), as it turns out it had a Mopar battery in it ??? Sticker said manufactured May 05, shipped Feb 06.......doesn't that seem odd for a car that was assembled in Dec. 07?? I went ahead and replaced it with a new Walmart Everstart.

We bought both cars brand new from dealerships.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Yesterday I got to looking at the 08 (built Dec. 07), as it turns out it had a Mopar battery in it ??? Sticker said manufactured May 05, shipped Feb 06.......doesn't that seem odd for a car that was assembled in Dec. 07?? I went ahead and replaced it with a new Walmart Everstart.
Actually, it's more common then most of us think. Batteries aren't much different than any item used in quantity. It's manufactured and kept in a "ready-state" until needed for use. Battery probably was stored in inventory somewhere without electrolyte, which means there was minimal impact on its service life.

We found out on our home heating systems (2-Carrier heat pumps) that the serial numbers correspond to units manufactured in 1987. Home was built in 1990 and units were drawn out of an inventory somewhere when the contractor performed the installation during construction. He probably got a good deal on the units. I'll bet your 08's Mopar battery didn't have any cost associated with it other than getting it shipped to Germany.
 

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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 08:02 AM
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Replaced my battery yesterday,9/17/2011 with ADVANCE Auto Parts unit. They had 25% off which brought it down to $104 and change. They did a quick install, I did a Throttle reset, reset my "Ultra Gauge", reset the door locks, etc. all ok so far.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Earlier this month I replaced the battery on the 07 (OEM was a Varta). Since the car was built in March of 07 I figured the battery might be 5 years old. Went with the Walmart H6 Everstart..

Yesterday I got to looking at the 08 (built Dec. 07), as it turns out it had a Mopar battery in it ??? Sticker said manufactured May 05, shipped Feb 06.......doesn't that seem odd for a car that was assembled in Dec. 07?? I went ahead and replaced it with a new Walmart Everstart.

We bought both cars brand new from dealerships.
The '08 car originally came with a Varta battery and the car sat around somewhere for some time after being built. The battery probably never got recharged, it just died or was damaged so much that it was replaced this side of the pond using a Mopar battery that was available.

The dealer could have had it laying around and put it in when it failed on his lot, I think this is very likely.What better place to get rid of stale batteries than this, who looks at the battery in a new car?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dtinker
Replaced my battery yesterday,9/17/2011 with ADVANCE Auto Parts unit. They had 25% off which brought it down to $104 and change. They did a quick install, I did a Throttle reset, reset my "Ultra Gauge", reset the door locks, etc. all ok so far.
Hey dtinker - Is this the Advance battery you put in? Buy AutoCraft Gold Battery, Group Size 48H6, 600 CCA 48H6 at Advance Auto Parts____

If so, what's your understanding of the CCAs? Website lists from 600 to 770 to 850 CCAs. Also, was it a perfect fit or was a spacer required on top?

Price online is $125 with a $30 discount on purchases over $100.

Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by aschrager
Never add water to a battery before it is fully charged. The level will always go up when charged.
Never charge a battery when the plates are exposed, as it may explode due to the hydrogen gas and a short between the dry plates.

If your battery has removable plugs or caps, check the water level. It should come to the bottom of the fill tubes.

Always use distilled water, do not leave a regular battery charger attached to the battery after the battery is charged.

Disconnect the battery and if possible remove it from the car when charging, as batteries have been known to explode when being charged. This is a small risk but having one explode under the hood would leed to a lot of acid damage.

Batteries bubble when being charged and the bubbles burst and spray a fine mist in the air and some of this will come out the vents.

There is a vent on all batteries, the Varta had one at the back with a plug in it and a front vent with an overflow trap in it, keep them and put them on your new battery if it does not have them and it has the vents in it. You do not want the acid fumes and mist spilling out the back unseen or out the front.

My new battery had the vents but no plug and trap, I installed the ones from the Varta.

Lead/Acid batteries get their power from the amount of lead in it, the lighter the battery the less power there is stored in it. More weight is better in cold climates.
 

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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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You are correct on the battery I bought, the tag on the battery says it is 770 CCA and required no spacer. none seem to have the vent kits. My car had the Mopar battery, so it was probably installed after the car was built. It had never had a problem, but I know it was over 3 years old. It's gone now.
Does anyone know where to buy the tubing /fitting to build the vent kit and collection pot?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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You are correct on the battery I bought, the tag on the battery says it is 770 CCA and required no spacer. none seem to have the vent kits. My car had the Mopar battery, so it was probably installed after the car was built. It had never had a problem, but I know it was over 3 years old. It's gone now.
Does anyone know where to buy the tubing /fitting to build the vent kit and collection pot?
I think that the battery makers supply these kits and in some cases they are attached to the batteries, sometimes they come separately. The sales clerks know nothing about them if they haven't seen them.

The Varta batteries came with a vent kit, the Mercedes part number on the Vent Catch Can is A000 541 00 63.

Ask for one and see what happens, Allstate does supply them according to my inquiries and will mail them out. What this kit consists of I have no clue. Keep your Varta ones as they fit and will avoid the car being eaten if the battery does spill out some acid. This acid is quite strong and will eat the bodywork, make no mistake about that. Any signs of corrosion around your terminals will tell you that it is leaking somewhere. Normally this is around the terminal itself through a little crack, it may only be acidic gases but it could be actual liquid acid.

Battery Catch Can on the battery. You can see the little vent holes for the gases in the top of it.


Battery vent hole with Teflon tape for a tighter fit.


Battery Catch Can. Mercedes Part# A000 541 00 63
A simple plastic plug is in the other end of the battery.
 

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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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My old Mopar Battery did not have one. I inspected under the battery after it was removed. All was clean no rust or corrosion visible. I every few months put baking soda in a measuring cup and flush the base out. I have a Mercury Milan that uses very similar battery and it does not have a vent drain catch pot either. I just put a new Bosch battery in it last week. It had no venting of any kind. It looks like these would be available at Auto parts stores or internet, but the only thing I find tells me they exist, but no part # or kits, etc.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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My old Mopar Battery did not have one. I inspected under the battery after it was removed. All was clean no rust or corrosion visible. I every few months put baking soda in a measuring cup and flush the base out. I have a Mercury Milan that uses very similar battery and it does not have a vent drain catch pot either. I just put a new Bosch battery in it last week. It had no venting of any kind. It looks like these would be available at Auto parts stores or internet, but the only thing I find tells me they exist, but no part # or kits, etc.
The Mercedes part number is above in my previous post.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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Thanks for the PN, sorry I missed it the first time.

Thanks Again.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:16 AM
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Anyone using any type of AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) Batteries?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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After 7 years and 4 months, my Varta gave up the ghost. Went to Wal-Mart and got the EverStart MAXX-H6 for $98.96. Stamped K11 and labeled with a green 11/11 dot. Used the red cap from the Varta as well as the plug and catch can. Thanks for the tips. Replacement was a cinch, although I wish the new battery came with handles like the Varta. Would have made lifting and setting the new battery a lot easier. The Wal-Mart battery is an exact fit - no spacer needed. It is made by Johnson. 3-year free replacement. In and out in about 5 minutes. Read elsewhere on the forum where people did a reset or two - like throttle and door locks. Can someone elaborate? I didn't do any resets to mine and no red lights or warning flashers. Only adjustment was the clock. Everything else worked, including garage door openers.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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you are good to go. I have one of the varta's working in a dump trailer, and has been for a year, and the other varta is on the shelf, used for several things. Neither have completely died yet. Very good battery.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Stock battery finally died on me. About 6 years old... Not bad really!

Originally Posted by 04Fire
Anyone using any type of AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) Batteries?
Yes, I went with an AGM battery. Have been using AGM batteries for some time now and love the fact that you do not have to worry about venting and just the general fact of how much more robust they are and forgiving of vibrations, climate / heat & of being discharged!

Now with AGM, you can go with a much smaller / lighter battery but for me, I liked the idea of keeping with the same size to maximize its power output.

Deka makes one. Model: 9A48: Amazon.com: Deka 9A48 12-volt AGM

But I also found that Interstate makes an AGM version of the H6! Quite a bit more expensive but with the original H6 being so much (identical) to the factory battery I really liked the idea of going with the AGM version of the same as I had hoped it would be an EXACT match in size & shape to the original.

And.... It IS!

Interstate MTP-H6A CCA: 800. CA: 1000. RC: 116.

Downside? Well, the battery was $195... But again, I am a firm beleiver of the AGM benefits so it was worth it to me!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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But I also found that Interstate makes an AGM version of the H6! Quite a bit more expensive but with the original H6 being so much (identical) to the factory battery I really liked the idea of going with the AGM version of the same as I had hoped it would be an EXACT match in size & shape to the original.

And.... It IS!

Interstate MTP-H6A CCA: 800. CA: 1000. RC: 116.

Downside? Well, the battery was $195... But again, I am a firm beleiver of the AGM benefits so it was worth it to me!
That's a good price, the suggest retail price is $277.00
Where did you buy it?
What color is the case, white or black?
That sucker is powerful.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 05:50 PM
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That's a good price, the suggest retail price is $277.00
Where did you buy it?
What color is the case, white or black?
That sucker is powerful.
Black. I did find some posts online that said it at one time came in the white as well, but I could only find it in black now.

I got it through the local Interstate battery distributor. I had found it through some local retailers (Firestone Auto care) and they wanted $215 but did not have any in stock so they referred me to the local dsitributor...

Maybe they thought I worked for the Auto care place and sold it to me at wholesale!
 
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