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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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I need to know if anyone knows if there is a Xfire tech in Rhode Island that can get my car back on the road? Dealership has had it 16 weeks now with 3 parts replaced and still no running. It's 05 with 36k on it and their talking about scraping it.
Help if you can, please
 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 04:14 PM
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I would suggest you stop looking for a "Crossfire Tech" and take the car to a local shop that works on MB products. Need not be a dealer, just some small shop known for Mercedes experience. We have several good ones here in and near Atlanta.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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Yeah, what PG said. I'm close to a little inde German auto shop. The owner is Hans, not kidding. I pulled in to his shop with the XF, and he knew exactly what was under the hood.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 06:41 PM
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Yeah, what PG said. I'm close to a little inde German auto shop. The owner is Hans, not kidding. I pulled in to his shop with the XF, and he knew exactly what was under the hood.
I worked near a good German automotive repair shop, they had a mechanic and his name was Hans. Trouble was Hans always messed up any job he was given.
The regulars knew this and always said "Fix it, but remember Hans Hoff keeps his hands off".

 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 08:16 PM
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I worked near a good German automotive repair shop, they had a mechanic and his name was Hans. Trouble was Hans always messed up any job he was given.
The regulars knew this and always said "Fix it, but remember Hans Hoff keeps his hands off".

I hope your Hans isn't my Hans
 

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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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I hope your Hans isn't mt Hans.

Keep your Hans to yourself.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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I need to know if anyone knows if there is a Xfire tech in Rhode Island that can get my car back on the road? Dealership has had it 16 weeks now with 3 parts replaced and still no running. It's 05 with 36k on it and their talking about scraping it.
Help if you can, please
What was the problem you were having with it? Maybe we can diagnose the problem for them.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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PG, I did try M-B. they told me that Chrysler put there's own coder it the fire and they won't work on it.
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Abaton6
I hope your Hans isn't my Hans
I never did get what I thought was a joke you originally had ".... isn't mt Hans". I could only think you were playing with the word 'mountains'.
Now it makes sense.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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I need to know if anyone knows if there is a Xfire tech in Rhode Island that can get my car back on the road? Dealership has had it 16 weeks now with 3 parts replaced and still no running. It's 05 with 36k on it and their talking about scraping it.
Help if you can, please
Tell us the symptoms, what they repaired, etc. etc. Guys on here can usually help with diagnosis and repair and generally it's low cost or no cost.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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PG, I did try M-B. they told me that Chrysler put there's own coder it the fire and they won't work on it.
Thanks
This post has gone off track and is now in a different post than the one you started, he wants to know your specific problems.
Let's start again.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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PG, I did try M-B. they told me that Chrysler put there's own coder it the fire and they won't work on it.
Thanks
NO. I did NOT tell you to take it to an MB dealer, if that is what you are saying, I said to take it to a local independant shop that knows MB products. For example, here in Atlanta, we go to Buckhead Imports.

But, as 100/80 has suggested, just tell us what is going on with the car, let's see if we can get to the bottom of it. There ARE numerous failures that, if you are not familiar with the car, can seem daunting, but are really easy fixes:

1) Sticky key - (HUNDREDS of dollars at a dealer, free fix at home in 90 minutes.)
2) CPS fauilre - (Up to $400 or $550 at a dealer, but part is $45 online and you can change it yourself with a T25 driver.)
3) Fuel pump and/or PTCM power failure - (over $600 at a dealer for a new RCM and labor/diagnostics; but ten minutes with a soldering iron to fix a few bad connections and you are good to go!)
4) Bad battery - car will crank and try to start - but all sorts of things will act up - new battery, problem solved.

There are others, but those are the most common. I've seen people LITERALLY spend up to $900 on any one of these, because the car acts so strangely that those working on it cant understand what is wrong.

I should also point out that my car has suffered from 1, 2 and 3. I did all the fixes myself - and I am no mechanic, just look at my avatar!
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:20 PM
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Sorry, PG wrong read.
This is what I just got:Hi Gary,

I met with the dealer principal regarding your vehicle today. Unfortunately, we have never been in a situation with a vehicle that is not repairable - until now, so this is new territory for us. We have exceeded our diagnostic capacity and have reached out to Chrysler's field engineering department for assistance but they have declined. At this point, it is in your best interest to work with the Customer Assistance Center to come to a resolution that is acceptable to you.

I'm sorry that we can't assist further.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:53 PM
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yes sir...they love to bail....I didn't get your last post btw... We will help all we can, but it is very important to know some answers first. Dealerships throw parts at cars to fix them for the most part rather than find out what caused the problem to begin with.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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Redford you still haven't told us anything about the symptoms. Details and maybe the forum members can help.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:19 PM
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This.. makes me wonder .. "if" they did this.. this IS the problem. There is no re coding the keys. You either retrieve the "secrete code" from the old skreem and program into the replacement, or you code new keys.

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Still in the dealership. They dont know what to do,this is 8 weeks in on the same problem. 2 starts then dead, replaced the skreem, reprogrammed the keys.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:22 PM
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The problem started with a wire shorting on the radio chassis.
Dealership got skreem code and replaced it, along with that they got a code on the siren ( don't if that ever got fixed). Next it was the HQ engineer telling them it was a fuel pump and replaced that-no fix. Then a random engineer appeared and called out a faulty module (?) waiting for the report.
That is all I have.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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they said they did all the key programing, they grabbed both keys to check against each other
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:30 PM
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If the SKREEM has been replaced my best guess is the RCM. (Relay control module) After the RCM the CPS. (Crankshaft position sensor) Those are the most common no start culprits. The CPS usually throws a code that they'd read so I believe it's the RCM. Ask them if it could be the RCM with a innocent look on your face.

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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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they said they did all the key programing, they grabbed both keys to check against each other
OK. That is very important they did the re-programming correctly. 1. You said a short started the problem. Was the car running and starting fine before the short? Or did this start after they got involved and for some reason replaced the skreem?
The module they replace is probably the Relay Control Module. You will need to know what module for sure they replaced, but that would be my guess. 2. Does the car turn over and not start or no turn over at all?
We will start with that....
 
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